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On July 13 2010 17:26 Chezinu wrote: Oh and I wasn't totally lying about decoding zek's message, I pmed Darth the results.
it wasnt hard the message was 15 letters logn and there was only 1 player with 15 letters lol i figured it out right away too but didnt say anything
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On July 14 2010 09:07 Divinek wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2010 17:26 Chezinu wrote: Oh and I wasn't totally lying about decoding zek's message, I pmed Darth the results. it wasnt hard the message was 15 letters logn and there was only 1 player with 15 letters lol i figured it out right away too but didnt say anything Yeah, I know. I think youngminii got it too:
On July 05 2010 09:17 youngminii wrote: Depends on the key. Is it TEA? I was actually thinking of writing a small program to try brute force to decrypt it, using numbers and words from the dictionary.
Either way, Chez's post seems very suspicious.
Nothing dramatic happened this game... people were too good at roleclaiming..
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Actions List: + Show Spoiler +Night 0: citi.zen recruits L (Traitor).
--Town lynches Elyas--
Night 1: Korynne roleblocks YellowInk. Bill Murray jails Hesmyrr. AcrossFiveJulys puts a bomb on citi.zen. citi.zen recruits Hesmyrr. (Failure) Mafia hit lakrismamma. Chezinu becomes a Mad Hatter.
BrowneY modkilled.
--Town lynches bumatlarge-- L modkilled.
Night 2: Ace roleblocks DCLXVI. Bill Murray jails Hesmyrr. youngminii checks citi.zen. (Result: Godfather) AcrossFiveJulys puts a bomb on BrownBear. Chezinu puts a bomb on citi.zen. Divinek activates his Coroner ability. citi.zen recruits BloodyC0bbler. (Success) Mafia hit Ace. (I let L have a "dying" shot because of the modkill)
--Town lynches citi.zen--
Night 3: Bill Murray jails youngminii. youngminii checks Bill Murray. (Result: Jailkeeper) Chezinu puts a bomb on zeks. Mafia hit Abenson. (Divinek also dies)
--Town lynches YellowInk-- AcrossFiveJulys modkilled. BrownBear dies from a bomb.
Night 4: Bill Murray jails Chezinu. youngminii checks Bloody C0bbler. (Result: Mafia) Chezinu switches zeks's bomb to rastaban. Mafia hit Chezinu. (Failure)
--Mafia concede. Town wins.--
Things I want to say "for the record": 1. BrowneY was Vanilla Towney the whole game. Whoever read the word "role" as "blue" is lol ^^. 2. My stories were NOT meant to be clues, Chezinu. The Death Note theme was just me leaking my recent craze for Death Note. The fact that L was the first recruit was pure coincidence. The "citizens" in one of my posts was just me using the English language. -___-. All a coincidence I tell you! 3. L's modkill really changed the game. Him + BC would've been a hilarious team, especially if citi.zen hadn't screwed up his fake claim. lol. 4. Bill Murray, there were not two Jailkeepers in the game =P. I think you guys spend too much time reading into my posts, and yes, that's a bad thing. I didn't mind that you guys knew about the secondary roles - the important thing to me about the semi-openness of the setup was the blue roles.
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Eatin' food is too powerful for mafia.
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wow, citi.zen got lynched with two bombs on him.
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On July 14 2010 09:23 Chezinu wrote: wow, citi.zen got lynched with two bombs on him.
yeah good job hatters!
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This game seems like town would get raped without spotting the gf too early. Or at least it seems like there's too much luck involved? cause there seems to be a decent chance of hitting a really useful role like dt/coroner in the first two days with lynch/nk/recruit/bomb/lover
though we won this with barely 1 coroner, it seems we just super lucked out hitting the gf nearly asap with a really lucky dt check, but if we had our dt randomly nk'd, especially before finding the gf, we'd have almost lost for sure
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On July 14 2010 09:23 Chezinu wrote: wow, citi.zen got lynched with two bombs on him. All evidence points to me playing a terrible game! 2x bombs + DT check = not good.
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On July 14 2010 10:22 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2010 09:23 Chezinu wrote: wow, citi.zen got lynched with two bombs on him. All evidence points to me playing a terrible game! 2x bombs + DT check = not good.
i thought you were both a likely mafia recruit and acting like mafia, so putting a bomb on you was a no brainer. Guess I messed up with putting the bomb on brownbear, though. Sorry dude!
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On July 14 2010 13:55 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:Show nested quote +On July 14 2010 10:22 citi.zen wrote:On July 14 2010 09:23 Chezinu wrote: wow, citi.zen got lynched with two bombs on him. All evidence points to me playing a terrible game! 2x bombs + DT check = not good. i thought you were both a likely mafia recruit and acting like mafia, so putting a bomb on you was a no brainer. Guess I messed up with putting the bomb on brownbear, though. Sorry dude!
I appreciated your bomb on him ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif)
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On July 14 2010 14:44 flamewheel wrote: >.>
lol. Whatd you think of the game flamey ^^
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--Town lynches citi.zen-- ??? :p
Post-game notes (would be interested in knowing other's thoughts during the game too): + Show Spoiler + I first signed in without realizing this was no flip setup, so I really didn't know what I was getting into. I generally just did nothing day 1 because I felt at this point there was not much to do, but I gave my opinion about some of the setup discussions going on so people didn't home in on me for lurking. Apparently I was in that perfect state of not standing out that both Godfather and Jailkeeper thought of me as good n1 target. I also generally trusted zeks roleclaim even before he posted the encrypted code, and would have been stood with this impression until somebody counter-claimed. Also I didn't generally like Korynne's plan because in retrospect, she seemed to be putting too much faith into following the result of her plan. Maybe she might have garnered more support if she simply advocated that the town should decide who to roleblock? If no kill occured, we could have discussed what it possibly meant thereafter. Also BM-Korryne tit tat war was pretty lol. Judged the argument itself was not enough to judge their scumminess, which is why I voted for ElyAs as planned. Interesting tidbit about this post; realizing this was no lynch I thought setup was favourable toward Mafia, and that I better try to get recruited sooner or later. So the linked post was actually my attempt to give impression that I was Detective. but I would still rather have PR use their round of investigations once before increasing their chance of exposure. The sentence was intended to give off impression that I was PR reluctant to out myself before using my ability. I never played anti-town intentionally, but it's always nice to have emergency exit prepared. The second day started up in unfortunate note with Coroner death, thought we were pretty unlucky there. Of course the night one in fact concluded with massive luck for town as BM has blocked Godfather's recruitment in what I consider epic save, but nobody but citi.zen knew that. Nothing on day 2 that particularly seem talk-worthy; I don't even remember why lynched Divinek bumatlarge. Wow, shows how much I paid attention that day. All I know is L is dead, and we decided to crack Coroner faster than I intended due to wrong bandwagon. Rofl, I just saw my post where I refute Bill Murray for saying "i'd jail someone like hesmyrr if i was jailer." That partial breadcrumbing was really dangerous looking at it now. Citi.zen knew the recruitment did not work against me for some reason, meaning either: 1) I was jailed, 2) I am the second mason. Bill Murray actively saying he would jail Hesmyrr should have told him that BM is likely jailer, making him ripe recruitment target. Either way it really didn't matter as youngminii checked citi.zen successfully, he would never get chance to recruit ever again. Bill Murray switcheroo really confused me a lot, he should be glad that I was never an advocate of Lynch All Liars. The way he angered the town kept him alive in the following night though, so that's food for thought. With no counter-claim and no other alternative to follow, rest of the game was pretty easy. Following day I was pretty convinced both were legit, hammered in the fact that game was over before mafia (which I believed there was two at the time) tried to discredit youngminii-Bill Murray, and BloodyC0bbler conceded. I feel somewhat sorry for YellowInk for lynching him, as any unconfirmed Townies could have literally taken his spot. I just supported his lynch just because he was the one with most votes. If there was secondary bandwagon along with YellowInk bandwagon there might have been confusion that might have somehow screwed up the plan. The fact that he was way too objective didn't help matters either. I know you should never trust anyone unless 100% confirmed, and youngminii-Bill Murray pair was not, but in no flip setup like this I believe complete faith on validity of some players is required to prevent the town from drowning in anarchy of WIFOM.
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Citi.zen knew the recruitment did not work against me for some reason, meaning either: 1) I was jailed, 2) I am the second mason. Bill Murray actively saying he would jail Hesmyrr should have told him that BM is likely jailer, making him ripe recruitment target. Actually I had no idea whether a recruiting attempt was successful or not during the game.
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So it seems like almost everyone voted for me because everyone else voted for me. A true bandwagon. I wasn't too worried about it in game because short of catastrophe, I knew town would win unless youngminii was scum - in which case we had already lost. It is fair to say that I was among the unconfirmed and I along with the 4 or so others needed to either be killed or investigated, so whatever works.
All of you who are reading this should be looking at each other and seeing how it clearly was a bandwagon - there was no clear reasoning, most were voting because they had nowhere better to go. Think about this each time you hang someone and you may save a pro-town player in a future game.
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I completely agree that it was a bandwagon and that it was started by me. I also agree that it is very bad play and shouldn't happen, even if town has pretty much won already.
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On July 15 2010 02:05 citi.zen wrote:Show nested quote +Citi.zen knew the recruitment did not work against me for some reason, meaning either: 1) I was jailed, 2) I am the second mason. Bill Murray actively saying he would jail Hesmyrr should have told him that BM is likely jailer, making him ripe recruitment target. Actually I had no idea whether a recruiting attempt was successful or not during the game.
Only L and I knew lol
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On July 15 2010 02:53 youngminii wrote: I completely agree that it was a bandwagon and that it was started by me. I also agree that it is very bad play and shouldn't happen, even if town has pretty much won already. Well sometimes it just happens. It can be hard to tell when it's a bandwagon, a railroading, or what. I did keep asking for reasons and I kept not getting them (for the most part), so that should've made it pretty blatant in thread.
This all being said, some people are really hard to figure if they're scum. The point is just that it should be a hanging from a culmination of active discussion, not apathetic lets hang whomever - ok I'll go along with that guy. Maybe I was the best hang because of some little thing I did in the early game. But it should be because of that (and reasonably clearly so), not because 'everybody's doing it'.
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Well, I mean it was really obvious it was bandwagon. I just didn't care :p
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On July 15 2010 06:46 Hesmyrr wrote: Well, I mean it was really obvious it was bandwagon. I just didn't care :p ##vote Hesmyrr
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