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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
June 26 2010 21:18 GMT
#21
If the godfather is checked by a DT, do you return "godfather"?
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 26 2010 21:42 GMT
#22
On June 27 2010 06:18 Foolishness wrote:
If the godfather is checked by a DT, do you return "godfather"?


yea.


On June 27 2010 06:17 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 05:04 DarthThienAn wrote:
On June 27 2010 04:51 Foolishness wrote:
So...does the town win if they kill the Godfather?


no, all mafia must be dead as well (or there has to be none).


On June 27 2010 04:52 YellowInk wrote:
I'm in.

Did you port this setup or does it need balancing? It seems really powerful for mafia unless there's at least two free mason pairs. It doesn't specify in the rules does mafia KP ever go up?

Roleblocking mafia KP seems really swingy - if the roleblocker finds one and notes that kills stopped (obviously), they don't even necessarily want to point the scum finger at that target. Stifling the KP indefinitely seems immensely powerful while trying to find the other scum/godfather.

Just my first thoughts off the top of my head.


port? like import? Nah, I just kinda made this up / took it from personal (IRL) experience. Edit: also did some balancing with some random nubs here. It's far from being perfectly balanced but I'm okay with it as it is.

The whole mafia KP + roleblocking thing is a part of the game, helps balance against the mafia and can work for both sides - it all depends on how well the roleblocker plays.



So then let's see. Assuming no extraneous things happen, at start there are 2 mafia (one mafia, one GF). Town mislynches. After night, there are 18 people, with 3 mafia. Town mislynches. After night there are 16 people with 4 mafia. Town mislynches. After night there are 14 people with 5 mafia. Say town kills the GF (if they don't they'll probably lose since GF can keep recruiting). 13 people with 4 mafia. After night there's 12 people with 4 mafia. That's pretty bad odds for the town although doable. Even harder though since the mafia haven't been mafia the whole game, making it harder to figure out who's scum. Seems bad for the town.

It basically boils down to: town has 3 days to kill the GF. Any other mafia kills by the town only delay the game a bit. In fact at some point even if the town knows a mafia member, it's probably better to not kill them and gun for the GF.



This is why you have a DT, Jailkeeper, Mad Hatter, Veteran, Roleblocker, Coroner, and Dream Catcher.

... in a 20 person game, if the town mislynches for 3 days straight and mafia gets all their hits through, etc., town usually loses anyway, amirite?
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 26 2010 22:45 GMT
#23
On June 27 2010 06:42 DarthThienAn wrote:
... in a 20 person game, if the town mislynches for 3 days straight and mafia gets all their hits through, etc., town usually loses anyway, amirite?

3 mislynch is the threshold for mafia victory in 5 day games (eg mini mafia). 20 players usually looking for 5 mislynch varying slightly with other speed of game factors.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 26 2010 23:11 GMT
#24
i read the rules, but i don't remember seeing this:

say there are 5 mafia, and the godfather gets capped, what happens with the rest of them?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 26 2010 23:19 GMT
#25
On June 27 2010 07:45 YellowInk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 27 2010 06:42 DarthThienAn wrote:
... in a 20 person game, if the town mislynches for 3 days straight and mafia gets all their hits through, etc., town usually loses anyway, amirite?

3 mislynch is the threshold for mafia victory in 5 day games (eg mini mafia). 20 players usually looking for 5 mislynch varying slightly with other speed of game factors.


cool. >_>

On June 27 2010 08:11 Bill Murray wrote:
i read the rules, but i don't remember seeing this:

say there are 5 mafia, and the godfather gets capped, what happens with the rest of them?


Say it's night 5, and no mafia have died and all recruitments have been successful. 5 mafia, and the Godfather has a recruitment to make. He would PM me a name, just like any night. However, I would not make that person a mafia member - it will be as if he Godfather did not attempt to recruit that night. He will not be told that his recruitment failed. Furthermore, the recruitment will fail regardless of if/how many mafia members die that same night.

So any recruitments that happen while the number of mafia (at the beginning of the night) is 5 do not actually happen.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
June 26 2010 23:32 GMT
#26
Sign me up please.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 26 2010 23:32 GMT
#27
by capped i mean offed
you misunderstood me
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 26 2010 23:35 GMT
#28
if he dies they stay mafia, if he dies trying to recruit at 5 it still stays 5 or is there some other question
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 26 2010 23:38 GMT
#29
what if he dies like night 1 or 2
then there wouldn't be any mafia at all really
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 26 2010 23:42 GMT
#30
yeah that'd be super awesome cool dude

but that's what would happen
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 26 2010 23:50 GMT
#31
Yup, if the godfather dies at any point, any living mafia stay and the game continues.

The probability of the Godfather dying by night 1 is pretty low. By night 2, there'll be 3 mafia after he's dead so that's not too too bad ^^.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 27 2010 00:35 GMT
#32
you should edit in a condition where if the godfather dies that early there is something that happens to balance the game
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 27 2010 00:35 GMT
#33
like one of the other mafia can recruit if he dies night 1
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 27 2010 00:36 GMT
#34
Nah, I'd rather just leave it up to the Godfather to live for two days. lol.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
June 27 2010 01:04 GMT
#35
yeah the odds are extremely low anyways so it hardly matters
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
June 27 2010 01:12 GMT
#36
On June 27 2010 10:04 Divinek wrote:
yeah the odds are extremely low anyways so it hardly matters


Never tell me the odds! - Don Han Solo
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
June 27 2010 02:05 GMT
#37
This is pretty lulz as far as mafia games go. In.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
June 27 2010 02:07 GMT
#38
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaa
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 27 2010 02:12 GMT
#39
so if someone dies and believes L is guilty, how are they going to write his name backwards? <3
_| ftw
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
June 27 2010 02:19 GMT
#40
Let me play please. I promise to look as scummy as possible no matter what
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jk
I can already see the ending
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