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So yeah, time to get stuff rolling. First day's lynch is pretty randoms, so I will vote for inactives. Gogogo! In terms of strategy, I don't think there's much for us to do other than just talk a lot. xD DT should probably let town know once they find 2 townies or 1 mafia. Medic should not claim anytime soon. | ||
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I only fix publicly available information (teams) for greatest entertainment value. xP My thoughts on first day lynch: 1. If there is an inactive group, lynch them. 2. If not, lynch the group that is hardest to read, though this is kinda hard to determine, so to speak. I'm sure it doesn't help that I fooled everyone in BM's game that I wasn't mafia. xP | ||
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"aka abstaining for now.. because no one else would dare vote for him, right?" We note that he is mafia that game he voted for Radfield, however this time he just said a bunch of di-dah-di-dits instead of the previous statement. For the sake of generating some content on day 1, care to clarify this Chezinu? xD | ||
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He's really more like Light than L most of the time. | ||
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If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. | ||
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On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote: you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? Uh, how does this post make any sense? a) If I was mafia, like YellowInk pointed out, I would have twice as many people on my team, making analysis much faster. b) If you're trying to say that as mafia I am crying unfair because mafia is supposed to be the only ones able to communicate to other teams then first of all, you still can't use IRC to coordinate with other teams, and second of all, I don't see how talking in code allows you to coordinate with other teams. Even if you set up an elaborate system with someone ahead of time, how are you sure they are not mafia? Like, it's good that you're putting pressure on YellowInk (I haven't decided if he's scummy yet, he doesn't quite have the green glow from the game he was pardoner but I don't know if that's because he's blue, red, or just being less aggressive because he doesn't have clues) but making stupid accusations is like...wut? (read: being Bill Murray?) | ||
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Those are my two cents on the matter. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On June 23 2010 05:24 Chezinu wrote: I guess I should post what I know: Radynee/Koryfield anaylsis: Awww, I like the name change, it's cute. xP Shouldn't it be Radynne and Korfield or something though? xD + Show Spoiler + On June 22 2010 07:09 Radfield wrote: Get your game on mafia. Inactivity will not be tolerated. Giggidy Giggidy. On June 22 2010 07:28 Korynne wrote: Yay so excited. <3 So yeah, time to get stuff rolling. First day's lynch is pretty randoms, so I will vote for inactives. Gogogo! In terms of strategy, I don't think there's much for us to do other than just talk a lot. xD DT should probably let town know once they find 2 townies or 1 mafia. Medic should not claim anytime soon. Giggdy and excited about their roles... Well I don't know why Radfield is excited, but I created this game so I'm personally very excited to see how it goes. On June 22 2010 08:38 Korynne wrote: Yeah, the whole point is that mafia can narrow it down to 2 setups, and blue roles can narrow it down to 2 setups. On June 22 2010 09:26 Korynne wrote: I picked the classic f11 setup because I figured it would be hard to get twice as many people than we usually do.. On June 22 2010 10:50 Korynne wrote: Did you want to play Incog? Maybe ask flamewheel if he'll stick you into a random team. xP or is Kory excited about the f11 setup? I prefer smaller games in general, it makes it easier for me to get a read on everyone. This is like, a big small game because there's 9 teams but like 20 people... so like, I'm excited, basically. xP On June 22 2010 22:32 Korynne wrote: It appears that Chezinu has voted for me and Radfield, without the requisite "aka abstaining for now.. because no one else would dare vote for him, right?" We note that he is mafia that game he voted for Radfield, however this time he just said a bunch of di-dah-di-dits instead of the previous statement. For the sake of generating some content on day 1, care to clarify this Chezinu? xD Kory underestimates how random my behavior can be though some aspects remain the same... I don't believe I understand you very well yet Chezinu, that I agree with. xD On June 23 2010 00:34 Korynne wrote: Hmmm... I am trying to decide if Chill would be offended by that statement... He's really more like Light than L most of the time. Did you decide yet? No, I don't think I know Chill or L enough to make a statement. I will consult more veteran members of the community to find an answer. On June 23 2010 02:21 Korynne wrote: BM and Chez... you can PM each other. >.> So like, stop spamming up the thread... *goes to look up the morse code stuff* What is the fun in that? I don't suppose this is something I can argue against... though it does make quite a few of us feel less fun because we have to click spoilers and find morse code translators on google. On June 23 2010 02:35 Korynne wrote: YellowInk, I believe BM is referring to a game Caller ran, called the Three Kingdoms Mafia where there was Yellow Turban as a 4th party. I believe he must be mistaking you for someone else because your name is not on the player list. How many games have you researched in the past? That way I can consider killing you or not if I'm mafia. If you know too much... I have read very little of games prior to my existence on the mafia forum. But pretty much followed every game since (though I don't follow the games I don't play in as much). I've also read/watched RoTK so I know what Yellow Turbans are... On June 23 2010 03:48 Korynne wrote: Uh, how does this post make any sense? a) If I was mafia, like YellowInk pointed out, I would have twice as many people on my team, making analysis much faster. b) If you're trying to say that as mafia I am crying unfair because mafia is supposed to be the only ones able to communicate to other teams then first of all, you still can't use IRC to coordinate with other teams, and second of all, I don't see how talking in code allows you to coordinate with other teams. Even if you set up an elaborate system with someone ahead of time, how are you sure they are not mafia? Like, it's good that you're putting pressure on YellowInk (I haven't decided if he's scummy yet, he doesn't quite have the green glow from the game he was pardoner but I don't know if that's because he's blue, red, or just being less aggressive because he doesn't have clues) but making stupid accusations is like...wut? (read: being Bill Murray?) Interesting, posts have to make sense... I guess that's not a very good assumption I made there... On June 23 2010 03:53 Korynne wrote: OMGUS Why didn't you vote for me then? That was in response to YellowInk asking what OMGUS meant. On June 23 2010 04:24 Radfield wrote: Oh Chez.... Anyways, I agree, despite our lack of a vig, that the dt should claim once he pegs a mafia. There's no millers, so it's a for sure thing. Trading our DT for half of the mafia is a good trade, assuming we are decent players and can do some decent post analysis. The downside of this, is that once the mafia find out there is a DT, they will KNOW if there is a medic or not, and if there IS a medic, they will have a roleblocker, and roleblock the dt for the rest of the game(setup 1). So a dt claiming is either certain death, or certain roleblocking, unless we get lucky and it's the roleblocker who gets lynched(50-50 shot). So a dt who claims has a 50% chance of dying the next night(setup 3) and a 25% chance of getting roleblocked for the rest of the game (setup 1, with roleblocker alive) and a 25% chance of having medic protection for the rest of the game (setup 1, with roleblocker dead) Again, I think it's worth it for the dt to claim once he finds a red(or 2 greens as korynne stated) As for PMing your partners, I have assumed that this is allowed. We need a mod ruling on this ASAP however. I assumed this because Korynne designed the set-up, and I assumed she knew the rules  For me the whole fun of this setup is that you get to make decisions as a team, and get to bounce your ideas off of each other about who you think is scummy, or who you think might be blue, etc.This guy actually reads my posts. He is cool. Radfield's pretty cool, that's why I asked him to join my team. =D On June 23 2010 04:29 Korynne wrote: Gee Radfield, read the rules, it makes me look bad if you keep making mistakes like that. D= However, he didn't read the rules.. I do not speak for Sir Radfield, but it disappoints me to see that he has not read the rules, and I have expressed this in a previous post. Conclusion: Either Mafia or DT Wait...what? How does that end up as mafia or DT? Would someone smarter than me enlighten me on how this makes us mafia or dt? >_> | ||
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By the way people you lynch teams, not people. xD The only case where one person and not their whole team dies is to modkills, in which case their alignment is not revealed. | ||
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Please don't start hustling the newbies already, it's only day 1. xD | ||
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I haven't cast my vote because I know I'll be around at the deadline so there's really no point in voting ahead of time. In terms of inactivity, I don't really do much on day 1 unless there's something about the setup to discuss. Like, PYP with Qatol and number claiming and role claiming. The other time in Bang Bang i was trying to set up a town system which clearly didn't work... xD I feel like I ease into the game better as days go by, so don't expect too much from me on Day 1. That being said, I will post analysis of teams in a bit (I have class now). I will analyze BM/Chez, LaXer/bum, Durak/YI, Nikon/Zyrre. Explanation for skipping the rest: 1. I'm not going to analyze myself... 4. I like Ace's style, so I'm probably biased, also they don't seem to be suspicious atm 6. L is L... and then there's the whole issue of Caller not really doing anything =\ 8/9 Feels like they're not talking much yet, also not sure how to read new people. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Beginning is just random spam, nothing uncharacteristic of Chez or BM though I would say. Continuous amounts of morse code talk despite being able to PM each other and the availability of morse code translators online. Mistakes YellowInk for someone else from Three Kingdoms Mafia. BM states that people complaining about their encoding system are likely to be mafia... Argument with YellowInk and stating YellowInk is scummy. Chez disagrees with BM and says some mumbo jumbo. Chez asks whether he should reveal if he believes a team is blue/red. Chez posts an "analysis" of Korynne/Radfield, its overall reaction from others has been uh wut, that made no sense. Chez states that it is a trend for mafia/blue to discuss blue roles more. Chez says that Korynne/Radfield were too excited when the game started... Chez says he wants to wait for L to put order to town. Chez states that he believes YellowInk to be more town. Chez says BM made him shit up the thread on Day 1 after L asked. BM scrutinizes YellowInk some more, accuses Ace of wanting to kill off the only people that are scum hunting. BM continues with morse code even after everyone basically says that's a terrible thing. BM states Zyrre is drawing his FoS. Chez states that having only a select few being able to read his code makes the game "fun" BM still onto Zyrre. Etc etc. BM says he's town. Chez plays a kind of "victim" role where he's like omg BM isn't explaining things to me, why can't town analyze me instead of him? Chez "breaks up" with BM, and is now supposedly doing his own thing. More randomly BM/Chez bickering in the thread... BM/Chez really onto the whole "vote analysis" idea. If they turn up scum, I would examine their take on the vote analysis more. BM claims that they are normal townies, not medic. Etc etc etc. Chez and BM regularly post random things indicating that they have not spoken to each other for a while or need to speak to each other. Not sure how to read this, but they seem to do this alot. Oh btw, in response to "No idea on my read on them, but they have yet to come up with their own idea on who to vote for which is scummy by my new theory" We don't really need to come up with our own idea on who to vote for if we haven't voted yet... I would say it's only scummy if I just voted for whoever had a bunch of votes and said like oh yeah, what he said, you know... Conclusion: Well they are really active... so I mean that's a plus. However quality of posting isn't all that great, but it is Day 1. I'm okay with letting them live at least another day to get a better read, since they are pretty guaranteed to speak a lot. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + Uhh...I have a hard time understanding what bumatlarge is saying, to be honest. There's a rather awkward post: "This seems to have escalated above us yellow, lets go into a hidey-hole and wait for the whole thing to blow over" I mean it could just be a joke and whatever, but what if it was supposed to be a response to YellowInk that he accidentally posted in the thread? I would put the likelihood of that at like 3% but something to reconsider if either of them turns out red. Okay honestly I have a lot of trouble reading bumatlarge's posts... bumatlarge encourages people to post quality stuff. I don't get this whole I'll bandwagon myself if it gets to day 4 thing, but it turns my radar down some because it would be rather silly for mafia to propose such a weird idea. They obviously can't die at night so it's like saying, if we survive 3 lynches, let's not survive another one! I don't think bum is good enough to pull a risky move like this as mafia. Conclusion: I don't know...bumatlarge just feels really confusing to me. I wouldn't mind lynching them or giving them another day to clear up. I don't like bum's lynch us day 4 claim, because it means mafia can keep you around to day 4 and win essentially if you are town. But without the threat of killing you day 4 then you could be making a decent mafia move. | ||
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Also YellowInk, I'm at work, I assume Radfield is doing something important like work or something. xP We're more of the 5-10pm EST kind of people so just be patient with that one. xP I've just posted analysis on BM/Chez and LaX/bum because it was like something specific I could do without much interaction with the thread. | ||
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I don't have enough votes to switch, and Radfield is not around. So I will save analysis for after the day ends in 2 minutes. | ||
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I can't sway the vote to any other team, so I might as well consolidate the current vote to make sure no one does anything shifty. | ||
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It's like, if we needed majority to lynch and voting was tied, I would vote switch just to make sure lynching happened. I mean, this case it wasn't like no lynch was going to happen but I still didn't like that uncertainty hanging around. Also like, team 9 has been posting more, and people have expressed wanting to leave them around for longer, especially since they're relatively new. You and Chez spam up the thread like no other so like, meh, s'okay to see you go. | ||
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Or now that BM/Chez are not around. For the newer teams we spared Day 1 (7,8,9 ish?) I would suggest doing analysis on people. Not that vets shouldn't but I mean they've posted more content. I'll do more analysis tomorrow. | ||
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Things were less likely to change as a result of my vote. | ||
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1) BM/Chez innocent, team 9 innocent: switching last minute makes no sense whoever dies means the same. If BM/Chez live it's probably better because everyone hates them whereas team 9 looks like they're making a comeback. 2)BM/Chez innocent, team 9 mafia: If I knew team 9 was my mafia buddies then Radfield pushing so hard to get them lynched would've been a really bad idea when so many other people supported lynching Chez/BM or bumcannon. Me voting for them before leaving for dinner not knowing when I'd come back would also be rather ballsy. DCLXVI, I don't like how you're pushing to lynch us rather than you. So far we have not been under suspicion, and you guys have, not to mention Radfield basically pushed for your lynch all along. I also don't like how you're hinting at the fact that if we get lynched and we turn out green someone that implies that you guys are more green. | ||
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I don't think it's good to cast everyone under suspicion. If Chezinu came in at the last moment and switched over to you guys, you guys are dead. Then we're all over Chez/BM for the next day and mafia can easily hide. And like I said, it would be rather stupid for Radfield to push for killing you guys if we're a team of mafia. | ||
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On June 24 2010 12:07 DCLXVI wrote: Well I don't understand why you would prevent a vote switch as a townie or a mafia unless you want to put more suspicion on us (as well as yourself). As I pointed out someone vote switching would only help the town in the long run, and you tried to prevent that? I think I implied that it is likely that we are the same alignment from a town perspective, please point out where I am wrong with that logic. Since I know that I am town and Radfield did nearly kill us, that makes me think that you are mafia and you wanted the town to think that we are the same alignment. Therefore if the town lynches us next and we show up green, then you could look very pro-town. That is why I want you lynched first, since you did the actions that make both of us look scummy. I completely disagree. But I'll let other members like Ace or L chime in on the scumdar factor of that switch. How does vote switching help town in the long run? If you guys are green, town freaks out and goes OMG THE VOTE SWITCHER IS MAFIA and we bicker about that for a day and real mafia can just hide out while we lynch at least one of the switcher and BM/Chez. Right, town thinks we're the same alignment, because Radfield was the one who pushed for your lynch even though Ace is like omg BM/Chez so mafia! We're sooo associated, because if I hadn't switched, oh, BM/Chez would've died anyway. And to top it off, let's just point out to the world just how connected we are by yelling at each other. All I can see here from you is that you found one little thing to poke at and you're going to push it and make it a big deal. No one else has expressed that they think we are associated, nor do I think if you turned up red/green it should reflect on us. If it was any other group I would've done the same. See before now I was voting for you guys mainly because Radfield figures you're scum, and without a strong read on anyone else I was okay with going with his idea (we agreed to vote together). Now I'm thinking you're very scummy. You're trying to get us lynched and clear yourselves. If you are town, how do you know we're not going to turn up red? If you think we look so scummy and you think we're going to turn up red then it reflects poorly on you since you decided to tie us into a bundle. So the only way this idea makes any sense is for you to be mafia. Oh also, what really kicks you in the bum is that you seem to say 1. we're connected 2. it makes us look scummy together. Never once have you said you, team 1, korynne and radfield, looks scummy period. Because you don't think we're scummy, you think that lynching us will clear your scummy name. I've been accusing you of being scum, you've just been trying to lynch us while tying us together. Sorry DCLXVI, but I don't really see how you can talk yourself out of this one. | ||
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We lynch me and Radfield, results: We turn up townie: Oh look they're townie so we must be townie right?? - DCLXVI We turn up mafia: Oh but I thought they were going to be townies, I swear I'm not associated with them! (So why did you want to lynch them if you thought they were townies...) Oh but, they turned out mafia so it's all good right?? (...) -DCLXVI Whereas if we lynch you guys: You turn up townie: Oh wow they made a really stupid move as townies then. (no comment anywhere about confirming us in any way of being not mafia) -me You turn up mafia: Well there, we caught them, moving along now. -me | ||
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I'm still unhappy with the wording of your post, in that you said a potential roleblocking of the medic instead of the DT. It makes it sound like you're looking at it from mafia's perspective rather than town's perspective. (Okay, so we have a roleblocker, so there's 50% chance there's a medic, then they have a 12.5% chance of protecting the person we're hitting... and then hopefully we can block the medic or DT or something...) Rather than from town's point of view: There's 50% chance we have a medic, 50% chance we have a DT, 12.5% chance to protect someone, 25% chance DT catches mafia, and really the setup with both DT/medic is just better for us compared to dt/medic because it's not likely that the mafia will find both. It feels like you are only thinking of nothing vs. dt+medic rather than nothing, dt, medic, dt+medic. | ||
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Me and Radfield were the 2nd and 3rd to vote for T9, and that's probably only because we don't like to vote early. Darth was the first to vote for T9 but he's a vote switcher. So you're telling me if T9 was mafia and we were mafia it would be a really good idea to start a bandwagon on them? I went out for dinner and I mentioned that, and it would also totally be a good idea to vote for my mafia teammates and then just leave for a while and hope for the best... My actions didn't change anything from happening, nor could I have changed anything from happening. Chez didn't come back and vote for T9. I was f5ing the voting thread for the 2 minutes after I voted until it was time's up. So let's see, I'm around and clearly active from :55 to :05 and I just decide to switch over to BM/Chez even though they were going to get lynched anyway, when I could just f5 the thread to make sure Chez didn't vote switch at the last minute. My actions didn't change anything, other than the fact that now T9 is flipping at me trying to tie us both together and not directly accusing us of being scummy (in fact, if we turn out scum they pretty much just hung themselves). They're saying, well... I can see how you guys would tie us to T1 (even though no one else mentioned it, johnnyspazz said MY actions looked shifty, not that T1 and T9 are related) so like, you guys should lynch them to make sure we're clean. Rather than like, well we're townies so even though this might look suspicious we think that T1 is probably not mafia because if they were it wouldn't make a difference if we died or BM/Chez died. Essentially, they are saying: 1. If one of us turns out mafia, then the other is mafia. 2. If one of us turns out town, the other is town. So they should know that they are town...therefore they should not be supporting lynching T1. There's zero mention of I don't think T1 is mafia but I understand if you guys want to lynch one of us to figure it out. They're very much clearly pushing to lynch us, which can only mean that they are mafia and know that we're town and so want us to die to prove their innocence. Also FoS on L for not addressing any of the logical points in my post and just calling bullshit on something that didn't change the outcome of anything. | ||
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On June 25 2010 03:30 DCLXVI wrote: Either I didn't word my posts correctly or you just misunderstood, but I don't believe that we are the same alignment. I said that you saving T9 makes it look like we are both scum. If you are townie then you just made a pointless switch. The town would want to see a vote switch because yes, it would heavily implicate a team. No townie team in their right mind would do that. Your team pushed to get T9 killed by started up the bandwagon. You also stated that you would like to see BM/Chez around for another day. Then you decide to prevent chez from saving his team while saving mine in the process. How is this beneficial for the town at all? You just created chaos in the town by doing a pointless vote switch - why? Why would a town team try to create chaos for no change in the outcome? Lynching you would not prove that t9 is green, I just think that you are red. You stir up commotion for no apparent reason while casting suspicion on my team. Before now you've never really called me scummy. You were just like oh my god we look like we're so associated. Let's lynch you to make sure we're clear. Like honestly, anyone who cannot see the totally different thing you're saying now compared to after I changed my vote is either blind or can't read. So now you've switched your idea and are now saying oh hey you guys are so scummy we're innocent? If you guys are innocent and we're mafia why would we switch votes to oh look, another group of innocent townies. Seems rather silly, especially if they're going to get lynched anyway. So far Ace seems okay with what I did, and so does bumatlarge. So that means at least one of the three groups of us is not mafia. Johnnyspazz made a very non-committed statement by saying what I said was fishy and then going well I'm probably just overthinking. You and L are really pushing it, so from what I can see, either johnnyspazz is mafia and is trying to get the ball rolling for someone else to hammer us and he gets out free, or you and L are mafia and are picking at this one little thing to lynch me for. The whole purpose of my vote switch is to make people talk. I feel like DCLXVI is really like omg I found something let's push it and get team 1 killed. Radfield thought you guys were suspicious and voted for you but there wasn't really a lot there. Now I feel like I've managed to push you over the edge and I'm getting somewhere with the scum hunting based on your reactions to my post. I want to hear all the teams opinions on my vote switching, but as far as I'm concerned, my vote switch did not change the outcomes of the day's lynch. If anyone is creating chaos that's DCLXVI and L. If town just reacted like Ace being like meh whatever didn't change a thing then it would just mean that even if I was mafia I failed to create chaos. What I did manage to do as town is to make DCLXVI talk and I personally believe he dug himself into a hole after his change of opinion from omg that makes us both look really scummy so we should lynch you guys because you did the vote switch to oh well i must have phrased what i said poorly then what I meant is that i think you're scummy. If you thought I was scummy you would make a post like johnnyspazz saying you look fishy for what you did rather than oh hey you made us look like we're associated. | ||
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I never really said I believed that BM/Chez was town or mafia. This was my conclusion from my analysis: Conclusion: Well they are really active... so I mean that's a plus. However quality of posting isn't all that great, but it is Day 1. I'm okay with letting them live at least another day to get a better read, since they are pretty guaranteed to speak a lot. So all I said is I'm okay with them living another day, because they're active so it's easier to get a read on them than say some townies who have posted like nothing. I also noted that the quality of their posts wasn't that great(but that's just a Chez/BM type of thing). When day starts I will be voting for team 9 unless someone else turns up super scummy because I don't like the inconsistency in DCLXVI's argument. | ||
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I think really Radfield was the only one thinking T9 was scum (didn't check the thread to confirm) but most people were just like yo let's put some pressure on T9 since T7 started talking now. Besides, everyone agrees that BM/Chez spam up the thread like no other. We've all been having real analysis and conversation for the last couple pages since they died, that helps out town in my books. | ||
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Look at the lack of spam these last couple pages! We can definitely get a good read on what me, Ace, L, DCLXVI have said in these two pages compared to like 25 pages of spam before that that. Also Ace, what is your opinion of how scummy DCLXVI is based on his posts during the night? | ||
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So my conclusion on that whole fiasco is that he seems to think I have a great big conspiracy plan (even though no one else in the thread thought so) and that he wanted to make sure my great big conspiracy plan that doesn't exist doesn't happen. I'm still not convinced that he wasn't trying to pull a flip in that we lynch us and then he looks greener but he had lots of holes in his argument that he patched up later so I would say that's like, a reasonable paranoid newb move. So if Ace presents a good case on L I'm okay with lynching him instead, or if someone else brings up a good case but otherwise I think my vote will stay on T9 just in case they are trying to pull the flip. Like honestly I just don't see how one is /likely/ to magically think up this conspiracy theory unless they were mafia. | ||
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So if there are two teams left and one is mafia but has less voting power than the town team, then mafia loses. This was not considered in the original setup when I had just intended for teams to be modkilled together and votes to always be 1/n... so hopefully this won't break the game too much... | ||
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Korynne
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Here is a summary of voting power. LaXerCannon and bumatlarge: 6 Ace and Darth: 6 YellowInk: 3 L: 3 Nikon: 3 BrownBear: 2 That totals to 23. If mafia has 12, it's gg for town (12/23), so this is not something we take into account. If mafia has 9, then if mafia kills the other 6, then it will be 9/17, which is gg for town. If mafia has 5 or 6, then town is pretty safe, and we move along. Okay, so that means medic should clearly protect one of the teams with 6 people, because mafia will likely try to kill off the other team of 6 people to end the game (or they have only 5 or 6 points, unlikely given the fact that that means a few mafia were modkilled). The medic at first protected Ace's team, and then switched, completely sub-optimally to L. I would probably partially blame L for telling town that mafia would try to kill him off, he should know better given the above information. Now, detective. Detective knew that there was a roleblocker because they got roleblocked the first night, which means that they should know that there is a medic. Detective checked Ace's team, which is completely correct given that they are the other team of 6. Now, this is where the detective should have roleclaimed because the medic needs to save the DT to win, and if the medic saved Ace's team (as the only other proper option) then they would lose. So... both medic and DT played very sub optimally. Medic at first did the right thing by protecting one of Ace and Laxer, but when they decided that Ace looked scummy switched instead to L, probably because of the argument between Ace and L, rather than switching properly to the other team of 6, bumCannon. Basically, medic should protect the less scummy of bumCannon and Ace, because if they were both mafia then it is gg for town anyway. So yeah... very sad and disappointing last hour for me modding this game. =\ Mafia was correct in killing bumCannon in that I doubt town was smart enough to coordinate properly to do what I said. Besides then YellowInk would still not be discovered, so there was still hope. So gg mafia. | ||
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Korynne
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At the end of the day: Mafia vote power: 3 Mafia KP: 1 Town: DT and Medic Town vote power: 14 In fact, the modkills put you guys into a unique position to be able to make an optimal play. Doing very simple analysis here would've helped a lot guys. =\ And even if you weren't DT/medic, town should have noted this and mentioned it in the thread. | ||
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