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On June 23 2010 09:19 L wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 06:18 Chezinu wrote:
I'm still waiting for L to come post and put order to town. Oh and how is one vote on each of BM and yellowink considered a bandwagon? I still think everything is up in the air. Told you i have work until 7 pm est every day, then i have transit time home. If i didn't do it this thread, i'm pretty sure i did it last. On page 7 reading through this stupidity.
I knew you had work, I seriously was just waiting.
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I'm thinking it is best to lynch stormtemplar and johnnyspazz.
Reasons:
Jspazz votes L. stormtemplar votes for team 2 and "agrees that voting for L is kinda not necessary". This makes no sense, who are you agreeing/disagreeing with? I don't think L was even mentioned as an option aside from Jspazz.
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Geez, Bill you are brutal.. You should go on IRC so we can talk! You need to be more mafia like and claim that everyone who hates you is innocent. It works wonders!
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On June 23 2010 11:12 L wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 11:07 Bill Murray wrote:On June 23 2010 10:45 BrownBear wrote:Yass, I am back! I now have cast my vote for Team Two, for the following reasons: + Show Spoiler [Reasons!] +On June 23 2010 02:13 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 22 2010 14:24 YellowInk posted:
It's already been answered by another player sufficiently, but I think there's something else worth considering in a team game.
If you get a read on one player as mafia and their teammate as town, do you accuse them? Would you hang them for it? My answer to this question would be 'yes'. Remember that if we all appear to be town, the mafia wins most games, so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. If you get a read on someone as mafia you need to put it to good use.
Now extrapolate to a semi or even fully active team member and an inactive teammate. We have an inactive 'read' on one player and a whatever (lets assume town for sake of argument) read on the active player. Is this someone to consider hanging? I again say 'yes'. Of course we go after the red as a priority, so like in any other game, targeting an inactive is something you do when you don't feel sufficiently confident about a read on anyone else.
Now if the one person is posting so much that the activity basically makes up for the other player being inactive, I'd give them consideration for a pass on this. The point is that we need every player to be active so that we have as many different reads on as many different teams as possible allowing us to root out the red. Allowing one player to be inactive (or even just semi-inactive / laying low) could allow their potentially skilled mafia teammate to be more elaborate in their lies or deception without worry of cross team tripups. This is why I think a hard stance against inactivity is appropriate even here in this team game. since i view you as red, we should lynch your entire team? if I feel like you are posting like you did when you were a yellow turban, i shouldn't sit idly while you try to ruin my game? such wise words from someone who is likely to be scum. perhaps you are doing the exact thing you're saying scum will do: Show nested quote +so the generic strategy for mafia is to appear to be town - preferably without helping them too much. ? I am going to assume we are out of the RVS, and use this hypocrisy as the basis for my voting you. You are doing exactly what you'd advocate red to do - appearing town without helping all that much. Instead of discussing what someone would do... why are you even thinking of that, by the way?... you should be scumhunting but are not. Even L's obvious OMGUS is a lot less suspicious to me than this. Especially on day 1, there isn't really anything wrong with saying apparently obvious stuff like this: there are new people in this game, and, in their own words: On June 22 2010 22:39 Durak wrote:This is my first game of mafia so my skill level is noob. When it gets suspicious is when people start to take really surface-level stuff like this into late game. However, this is Day 1, so we can't really get a read on YI yet. I agree with his statement too (and I know this may be damning myself, considering the accusations flying around Jspazz already, but hey, YI is right and it should be acknowledged). I think you know this is a good idea yourself, but you are trying to muddle up his idea in random accusations. Not cool. On June 23 2010 03:26 Bill Murray wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 03:24 Korynne wrote:
BM, how is talking in morse code helpful in the thread? Anyone can put it into a morse code translator.
If you wish to speak in code in hopes that somehow magically other townies but not mafia will be able to decipher it, be my guest. But I find the whole addition of morse code or binary or any other simple translatable using google form of cryptic communication useless and disruptive to people when they want to analyze the thread. you mean to say that it is unfair to you because you and your scumbuddy team #5 are the only ones who are capable of using IRC to coordinate with other teams? VERY combative, especially early on. This is also a pretty baseless accusation, a thinly veiled insult, and completely unhelpful to the game. And she was right, y'know. Its disruptive. But when you translate it... (quoted jspazz because he was awesome and translated it already) On June 23 2010 06:38 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:25 Bill Murray wrote:chez: + Show Spoiler +-.-. .... . --.. .. -. ..- --..-- / .-- .... --- / .- .-. . / .-- . / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - ..--.. Chezinu, who are we going to protect? Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:39 Chezinu wrote:Bill: + Show Spoiler +.. / .... . .- .-. -.. / - .... .- - / - .... . / .--. . .-. ... --- -. / .-- .... --- / .--. --- ... - . -.. / .- ..-. - . .-. / -- -.-- / .-.. .- ... - / .--. --- ... - / .-- .- ... / -- .- ..-. .. .- .-.-.- / .. / - .... .. -. -.- / .. .----. -- / --. --- .. -. --. / - --- / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - / .- / - --- .-- -. .. . .-.-.- / .. / .- .-.. ... --- / -... . .-.. .. . ...- . / - .... .- - / .-- . / -- .- -.-- / .... .- ...- . / .- / -.. - .-.-.- I heard that the person who posted after my last post was mafia. i think i'm going to protect a townie. i also believe that we may have a dt. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:49 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Di-dit, Di-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-di-dah Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dit, Di-di-dit Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-dah-dah-dit Di-dah-dit Dah-dah-dah Dah Dit Dah-di-dah-dit Dah, Di-dah Dah-di-dah-dit Dit, Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah , Dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit Dah-di-dah-dah Dah-dit Dah-dit Dit, Di-dit Di-di-dit, Di-dah-di-dit Di-dit Dah-di-dah Dit Di-dah-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dah, Di-di-dit Dah-di-dah-dit Di-di-dah Dah-dah, Dah-dah Di-dah Di-dah-dah-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-dit, Di-di-dah-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Dah-dah-dah Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah Di-di-dit Di-dah-di-dah-di-dah I , would , say , protect , ace , .... , korynne , is , likely , scum , major , f.o.s. Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 01:57 Bill Murray wrote:+ Show Spoiler +--. . - / --- -. / .. .-.-.- .-. .-.-.- -.-. .-.-.- / ... --- / .-- . / -.-. .- -. / -.. .. ... -.-. ..- ... ... / .-- .... --- / .-- . / ... .... --- ..- .-.. -.. / .--. .-. --- - . -.-. - Get on i.r.c. so we can discuss who we should protect oh man i feel like a detective! Ok then... this is a VERY thinly veiled medic claim. I doublechecked the translation using the following site: http://morsecode.scphillips.com/jtranslator.htmland it is accurate to the best of my knowledge. So congrats, you guys claimed medic. On day 1. All we know out of this is that you for sure aren't medic... but why even try to claim in the first place. If you are town (or god forbid, actually medic), you've basically committed suicide, as mafia don't really have much to go on with their night 1 kill, so they might as well try to see if they can nail one of the two blue roles in the game (if there are any, anyway). If you survive... it just really makes you look scummy. The only way I can see this being a good idea would be if you somehow discovered who the real medic was (on DAY FREAKIN ONE), convinced them you were town, and claimed so that the mafia would hit you, but the medic could protect you, thus wasting a mafia KP ...hmm, that's actually not a bad strategy if you can pull it off, but I reiterate. It's DAY FREAKIN ONE. There's no way you found the medic (if there is one) that quickly. There's also the possibility that you and Chez were just fucking around with that claim... but I doubt it. Chez might be random, but you, BM, usually post stuff for a reason. And I think that you are lying. And I don't like liars. I could do some analysis on chez... but right now he's too random to get a read on. If people really want me to I can try later, but for now, following YI's idea... one scum read on a team should be enough to lynch that team. Thus, I say Team Two should be our target for today. Brownbear: + Show Spoiler +BROWNBEAR,WHEN YOU SAY CONVINCED THEM YOU WERE TOWN ,AND CLAIMED SO THAT THE MAFIA WOULD HIT YOU, BUT THE MEDIC COULD PROTECT YOU, THUS WASTING A MAFIA KP, ARE YOU TRYING TO JOIN OUR TOWN CIRCLE BY CHECKING OUR ALIGNMENT, OR CLAIMING TOWNIE, OR ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL US? Yo, I translated because translating is cool.
You should translate the harder ones that everyone seemed to ignore, maybe just maybe I have a code that only a select few can read! That makes this game fun!
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On June 23 2010 13:37 L wrote:
So, we aren't team voting, yet all teams have a weight of 3?
How the fuck does voting work, I have no idea what's going on in that other thread and I searched the OP.
you are worth 3/6, the members in groups of three have are worth 2/6
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Bill Murray isn't even giving me an explanation of his actions.. Why can't town analyze me instead of BM?
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Entertainment Value indeed
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"meaning both of them are near the bottom of my suspicious list." Really, they are that low on your suspect list? You don't think it is one of them combined with a team 6-9? such as team 8? Bill, can we please talk in IRC?
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Vote Analysis Time!
[QUOTE]
Votes for Team 2 (11)
Ace (Team 4)
stormtemplar (Team 8)
meeple (Team 7)
BrownBear (Team 8)
johnnyspazz (Team 8)
DCLXVI (Team 9)
Votes for Team 4 (3)
DarthThienAn
Votes for Team 7 (17)
Bill Murray (Team 2)
Chezinu (Team 2)
LaXerCannon (Team 3)
bumatlarge (Team 3)
YellowInk (Team 5)
Divinek (Team 9)
Votes for Team 8 (3)
L (Team 6)
Votes for Team 9 (3)
DarthThienAn (Team 4)
/QUOTE]
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On June 23 2010 14:07 YellowInk wrote:
@ Chez re BM Are you guys really playing the same role? ^^
I was following along with Bill thinking he had a plan... yeah... Now, I'm playing as if I'm by myself. Except I'm suck voting for team 7 right now under the circumstances..
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Vote Analysis Time!
Votes for Team 2 (13)
Ace (Team 4)
stormtemplar (Team 8)
meeple (Team 7)
BrownBear (Team 8)
johnnyspazz (Team 8)
DCLXVI (Team 9)
Votes for Team 7 (17)
Bill Murray (Team 2)
Chezinu (Team 2)
LaXerCannon (Team 3)
bumatlarge (Team 3)
YellowInk (Team 5)
Divinek (Team 9)
Votes for Team 8 (3)
L (Team 6)
Votes for Team 9 (3)
DarthThienAn (Team 4)
As you can see from the Votes team 8 does not like me or BM.. Not sure which one they don't like or if they don't like either of us. Maybe they didn't like the fact that I voted for them at one point?
Not everyone has voted... this makes this early voting analysis hard.. wait a minute... Team 1 hasn't voted?
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Caller don't do it! It isn't worth it! Just stay a little longer, it might all work out. I know you two have your trouble, but can't you work it out? I just don't want to see it end this way.. Please Caller! For the love of the game, don't do it! I know it seems unbearable at the moment, but I believe that once you two spend enough time together, you will see each other in a different Light. Well, maybe not Light... L wouldn't like that... Perhaps in Darkness you two will learn to live with eachother. Caller you end is not now... It is too soon. Please consider your ways!
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I almost said for the love of Ace but I'm trying to bring him up too much..
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Vote Analysis Time!
Votes for Team 2 (13)
Ace (Team 4)
stormtemplar (Team 8)
meeple (Team 7)
BrownBear (Team 8)
johnnyspazz (Team 8)
DCLXVI (Team 9)
Votes for Team 7 (20)
Bill Murray (Team 2)
Chezinu (Team 2)
LaXerCannon (Team 3)
bumatlarge (Team 3)
YellowInk (Team 5)
Divinek (Team 9)
Durak (Team 5)
Votes for Team 8 (3)
L (Team 6)
Votes for Team 9 (3)
DarthThienAn (Team 4)
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On June 23 2010 14:51 Bill Murray wrote:
Not Voting:
Radfield(1)
Korynne(1)
Caller(6)
Nikon(7)
Zyrre(7)
MooCow (9)
So really, we aren't killing anyone. We are just killing meeple who went afk anyways.. Not that anyone should switch votes and kill me... We should just kill meeple... yeah... uh oh... I spoke too much... how about team 8? What if team 1 shows up last minute? Its too late voting will end in like 8 hours, don't kill me! Just don't do it!
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What does everyone think about team 8?
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On June 24 2010 01:18 bumatlarge wrote:
Team 8 is starting to get active, so I'd put them on a neutral tier now
alright, I' thinking about staying on team 7 - I was questioning myself. Now I'm curious to see how my following theory turns out:
On June 23 2010 05:22 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2010 05:20 Zyrre wrote:
BM said several things that didn't make any sense, pointed out by YI.
I will hold off on voting just yet. But that combined with him trying to get YI lynched means that im right now leaning towards him. Problem: there are no sides. It's not one or the other.
I know that scum like to emphasis debates between two townies. This occurred in Bang Bang:
On June 01 2010 01:40 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2010 01:35 LunarDestiny wrote:
Wow, just 10 hours of sleep and I got in the shit list. My lack on post contrary to the last game I play(fucked up ROTK mafia) is because there my lack of knowledge in mafia game.
Right now, there is two sides of town and I had to choose a side. I don't think we can win that way if town is spilt in half. Since L is getting like half a dozen? of people supporting him and people do claim he has a good plan, I will watch how him use the role claim list in the future.
Lastly, I can shoot. What a minute... who said there were two sides?
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I'm on BM's team and I think he is scummy... That must mean you really think L is scummy. Oh and I disagree with BM's analysis. I just posted the voting analysis to let the mafia know that we are watching the votes and to get a clear picture of which teams are voting for who. I still don't have every player memorized to a team.
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Bill, why do you taunt Ace?
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