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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
June 23 2010 16:01 GMT
#321
There seems to be little flak going around in general, Im looking at my previously poor constructed posts and people notice but they didnt really pressure me for clarification on where I was going with it. I saw L make a comment about Darh and Ace already having enough content to judge them by.

Its not necssarily the same as inactivity, or even quantiy of posts. For instance Radfield has barely posted, but you can get substance from his posts and get a clear position on his stance. Most of what I have posted is roughly the same as him, but garbled up and repeated (I blame the habit that when im using this small-ass keyboard I post like Im texting -_- and you dont think twice about it)

So if you haven't, make a clear vivd 5-7 line paragraph on what you think is important, if you have not posted substance yet. Check it as if you were handing in an assignment, so we can see your opinion clearly at least. I guess people yellow and darth have pointed out should go ahead and try it. Plus it's nice to see a fresh personality's take on things.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 23 2010 16:06 GMT
#322
Good morning everyone! I'm glad to see more activity from both teams 1 and 7. I've skimmed over the most recent posts and since it appears K/Rad are currently here I just want to throw out the quick Q:

Lynching inactives is more a policy of encouragement to me than anything else. For instance, consider how many votes were (still are!) on team 7. Nikon and Zyrre have posted recently with much more enthusiasm of late. If they were not on the block to be lynched, would they have been quite as active as they are now? Many of their posts are more strongly worded because they are looking to persuade people towards voting elsewhere.

I would agree with you that doing a bandwagon-lynch inactive at the end of day is largely ineffective. They don't have enough time to react, or even if they do, there may not be enough time to get votes shifted off of them.

I am currently satisfied that team 7's activity level has risen to a more acceptable level, but they need to maintain it.

Is there enough time left to pressure team 9 into doing the same?


DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
June 23 2010 16:10 GMT
#323
On June 24 2010 01:06 YellowInk wrote:

Is there enough time left to pressure team 9 into doing the same?



nope

give me some time to read through all that was posted last night
I can already see the ending
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 23 2010 16:11 GMT
#324
I am not mafia because of this game: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=119497

That is a game in which I played as mafia. I am providing that for you. Use it how you will. That game saw me generally making one liners and not providing any positive plan for the town. Early on I create a plan that even tries to advise for a no lynch, in this game I try to provide FOR a lynch in numerous scenarios which point towards the same team just on mathematical trends and heartfelt feelings.

In that game, I mainly communicated out of the thread, on MSN with my mafia buddies. I tried to pm with just chez, but that's not my style. I'm not really that good one on one... I'm ok with like 5 guys, but not with one evidently. Chez and I work better on our own than together, whereas if it was Chez, myself, and another team it would be different and I would be concentrating out of the thread which would be limiting my post count/amount of words I actually type in the thread

Another reason is the fact that when I am mafia I do not put myself out there like this because I do not want to be viewed as a "fuck up" as mafia. I have TONS of grammatical and spelling errors in relation to when I am not mafia for instance. In that game, I even miss-word something that ends up in me looking like I said I was mafia! That's the extent I fuck up when trying to type in the thread.

Given these three reasons, I cannot be mafia in your eyes if you compare my play from this game and that game.

-> What we need to do going forward:

Bill Murray's 3-step plan
1) Create more discussion
a. ask each other questions/create funny trends
. why are you voting this way?
. why are you inactive?
. ace and L arguments
. Nobody Cares!
b. analyze past games of players
. as town
. as townie
. as mafia
2)Use said discussion to scumhunt
a. analyze scummy behavior
. ad hom, ate, omgus, strawman, chainsaw, w/e
. voting trends
b. relate scummy behavior to player slots
3) Lynch mafia
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YellowInk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States578 Posts
June 23 2010 16:12 GMT
#325
Checking clocks it looks like we have about 10 hours left in the day, so I'd lean towards no on the question I just presented. I'm not sure where I want to put my vote besides on bumatlarge at the moment. At the least, consider my vote off of team 7, it'll be going somewhere else as I havn't read obvious mafia there.
Zyrre
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden291 Posts
June 23 2010 16:16 GMT
#326
I'm just find it meaningless posting until I have some suspicion or have something to respond to. As the game goes on my activity goes up, check my previous game for that.
I'm usually offline from ~09 KST to ~18 KST, which is why I don't respond during the most heated discussions.
"Take the risk of thinking for yourself, much more happiness, truth, beauty, and wisdom will come to you that way."
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 23 2010 16:16 GMT
#327
What does everyone think about team 8?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
June 23 2010 16:17 GMT
#328
Your latest "third vote on a team" masterpiece is just more grasping at straws.

i think bm is correct on this one and third votes on a team/person is a legitimate theory for finding scum
"The big difference between sex for money and sex for free is that sex for money usually costs a lot less." -Brendan Behan
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 23 2010 16:17 GMT
#329
On June 24 2010 01:16 Zyrre wrote:
I'm just find it meaningless posting until I have some suspicion or have something to respond to. As the game goes on my activity goes up, check my previous game for that.
I'm usually offline from ~09 KST to ~18 KST, which is why I don't respond during the most heated discussions.


I had considered that when I checked where you were from.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
June 23 2010 16:18 GMT
#330
Team 8 is starting to get active, so I'd put them on a neutral tier now
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 23 2010 16:19 GMT
#331
On June 24 2010 01:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
Your latest "third vote on a team" masterpiece is just more grasping at straws.

i think bm is correct on this one and third votes on a team/person is a legitimate theory for finding scum

hey, i will be the first to admit i'm not the world's best at scum-hunting, but we have Ace and L here to help us do that. Only problem is Ace's radar must be off if he is honestly thinking I am scum. He must be misreading my improvement as a player negatively I guess.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 23 2010 16:21 GMT
#332
let's just lynch L and Caller and call it a night
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 23 2010 16:24 GMT
#333
On June 24 2010 01:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
Show nested quote +
Your latest "third vote on a team" masterpiece is just more grasping at straws.

i think bm is correct on this one and third votes on a team/person is a legitimate theory for finding scum


no its not. It's pretty bad theory and only pans in the most simple of newbie games. The "third" vote idea doesn't even make sense because BM doesn't understand what it meant. It had nothing to do with the 3rd player voting - it had everything to do with trying to catch where a scum would vote without drawing attention aka getting on the wagon but without being blamed for tipping it.

Being that scum will vote wherever they think will allow them to escape scrutiny that statement is nonsense.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 23 2010 16:26 GMT
#334
On June 24 2010 01:18 bumatlarge wrote:
Team 8 is starting to get active, so I'd put them on a neutral tier now

alright, I' thinking about staying on team 7 - I was questioning myself. Now I'm curious to see how my following theory turns out:

On June 23 2010 05:22 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2010 05:20 Zyrre wrote:
BM said several things that didn't make any sense, pointed out by YI.
I will hold off on voting just yet. But that combined with him trying to get YI lynched means that im right now leaning towards him.

Problem: there are no sides. It's not one or the other.



I know that scum like to emphasis debates between two townies. This occurred in Bang Bang:

On June 01 2010 01:40 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 01:35 LunarDestiny wrote:
Wow, just 10 hours of sleep and I got in the shit list. My lack on post contrary to the last game I play(fucked up ROTK mafia) is because there my lack of knowledge in mafia game.

Right now, there is two sides of town and I had to choose a side. I don't think we can win that way if town is spilt in half. Since L is getting like half a dozen? of people supporting him and people do claim he has a good plan, I will watch how him use the role claim list in the future.

Lastly, I can shoot.

What a minute... who said there were two sides?

lol, clueless in The Prism!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
June 23 2010 16:26 GMT
#335
On June 24 2010 01:19 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 24 2010 01:17 johnnyspazz wrote:
Your latest "third vote on a team" masterpiece is just more grasping at straws.

i think bm is correct on this one and third votes on a team/person is a legitimate theory for finding scum

hey, i will be the first to admit i'm not the world's best at scum-hunting, but we have Ace and L here to help us do that. Only problem is Ace's radar must be off if he is honestly thinking I am scum. He must be misreading my improvement as a player negatively I guess.


Don't worry, I think L is just as scummy as you are.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 23 2010 16:30 GMT
#336
I am really not sure who is scum. I want to vote for someone else, but until we can get more people to vote and pick a good choice I will keep my vote here I guess
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 23 2010 16:31 GMT
#337
ace i wish you would pick someone who was actually scum this game so we can have an easy win as town ... you going for me is pointless, trust me this once bro
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 23 2010 16:31 GMT
#338
I'm on BM's team and I think he is scummy... That must mean you really think L is scummy. Oh and I disagree with BM's analysis. I just posted the voting analysis to let the mafia know that we are watching the votes and to get a clear picture of which teams are voting for who. I still don't have every player memorized to a team.
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
June 23 2010 16:32 GMT
#339
Bill, why do you taunt Ace?
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
June 23 2010 16:33 GMT
#340
I am not taunting him at all, in fact I meant it as a compliment. Like, hey, man, we need you.
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