TL Mafia XXVII

On June 03 2010 03:46 Korynne wrote:
For sures.

On June 03 2010 04:16 Korynne wrote:
I don't get it. xD

It was just us sticking out to the end with Foolishness. =P (Hopefully he'll play too? xP)

On June 04 2010 11:44 Incognito wrote:


How bout I make you a Veteran and I give mafia aligned dayvig to someone who has a grudge against you?

On June 05 2010 03:00 LunarDestiny wrote:
Sorry I am trolling this thread again.

I want to ask is Radfield THAT good of a player that he is always the #1 target for the mafia. I search a little in the forum, but can't seem to find a game with his late game plays.

On June 06 2010 10:46 flamewheel wrote:
Awesome.

I've... graduated.

Should have more time now.

I think.

On June 10 2010 13:07 citi.zen wrote:
I am fine with the mass role-claiming suggestion. There are 4 vanilla townies here + miller so the mafia would not have a very easy time hiding among them. Claiming a blue role is very tricky for the reds since the rightful owner will know it.

On June 11 2010 19:54 Radfield wrote:
I also just noticed we have 4 voters in the voting thread. What the heck people!? Do NOT vote without posting an explanation, that helps the mafia coast. (I realize Chez posted a reason)

On June 11 2010 14:28 ohN wrote:
'Forgot about this game lol.
Interesting how we have a lot of greens claiming and not much else.
Everybody should keep claiming imo, puts the mafia in a tough spot and narrows down who we need to look at.

On June 11 2010 14:44 ohN wrote:

Whole point of the plan is to get everybody to claim.
If only like half of us claim it hurts us more than help.

On June 12 2010 02:50 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Hold your horses flamewheel. L's "plan" awhile back asked vets to claim detective as well in order to confuse mafia.

And people calling me mafia (RoL I'm looking at you) because I mistakenly thought for a second that lynched millers flip townie are fucking retarded. I've been in games where millers were lynched so I never should have thought that, was just a temporary mistake (wasn't a matter of not looking at the rules). So who are we going to lynch today? Guess I'll start with voting for RoL since he started off accuse-happy and claimed townie. I'm always up for lynching MooCow though :D

On June 12 2010 03:12 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Btw we shouldn't lynch Ludwig or MooCow because as of now what they have both claimed is legal by L's plan. We should either go after someone who claimed townie or someone who didn't claim anything.

On June 12 2010 20:19 Radfield wrote:


Agreed, although it's still early in the game and everyone has contributed at least some. The more I think about it the more it seems like we should just check/lynch whoever seems most scummy.

I'd like to hear other peoples opinions on who to lynch though.

On June 13 2010 10:02 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:


yes?

I got a PM from incognito last "night" saying that I've been role blocked.

On June 13 2010 11:26 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
Also, reiterating, if anyone else wants to say they got role blocked, please do. If no one else speaks up you should be able to put some trust in that I was the one role blocked and therefore probably not mafia. If someone does speak up then it will be obvious that they are mafia if I get lynched and flip town.

On June 13 2010 11:31 flamewheel wrote:

Actually most games that I've seen recently with roleblockers involve the person being roleblocked getting told he is roleblocked, whether he has an action or not.

On June 14 2010 12:24 MooCow wrote:
Even though I invested AFJ I still don't think we should lynch him because even if he is mafia they still only have 1KP so that doesn't really change much unless we get a role blocker and either way if we do get role blocked again someone should come out and say so.

I'm one for lynching the inactive in this game especially because of the 1KP mafia. Either way AFJ is heavily in the spotlight we can rest assured that he'll be banging on about something in the coming days, which would either help us or make us lynch him.

Now with AFJ being suspected of being a mafia and me coming out and defending him will obviously make me look like a mafia.

If I were mafia I would not chose to investigate another mafia target.
There were a couple ways I could of avoided this situation.
1. Chose the target before letting LuDwig chose the target. Why would I want to risk investigating another mafia member? ( I'm a lot more active than LuDwig but I let him chose ). I wanted to investigate someone inactive so we could lynch them as a test pig.

2. I wouldn't come out here and try to defend him and draw attention to myself. The risks of me doing this as a mafia almost has no reward. If it were 1KP/2Mafia then yea I would of been rewarded if AFJ is safe but doing this gives me nothing as mafia. If he flips red I can plead insane/paranoid and it puts me in the same boat as LuDwig. ( I also posted my findings on AFJ before LuDwig did )

So I don't think he's really mafia but maybe he is. For today I think we should just look at 2 of those inactive, lynch one and pre-plan for the night so we can all be on the same targets ( meeple, if he checked AFJ and came out with his information this would be a lot easier )

On June 15 2010 02:27 Foolishness wrote:

To go by history, Vivi57 is usually inactive when he's townie, and very active if he has a blue role. Not as sure as when he's mafia, but I'd go for RoL just in case.

On June 15 2010 02:37 Foolishness wrote:

You mind explaining any of that?

On June 15 2010 03:38 redtooth wrote:
ok guys i had a lot of work the past weekend so i couldn't keep up with the thread as much as i would have liked. quoting my post on why L should have died immediately. good job citizen for actually pulling the trigger though. L was so scummy and the fact that he was alive was the biggest incrimination against him.

if citizen is playing his role right then A5J should flip red tomorrow. doesn't look like voting could swing in any other direction but go ahead and stack it against him anyways.

also, foolishness is probably not mafia aligned. radfield seems scummy or retarded, can't tell atm.

On June 15 2010 01:48 Radfield wrote:
Wow wow wow. Either an amazing shot Citizen, or you're mafia and hoping to get all our roleclaims and allay all suspicion.

An extremely ballsy move actually, considering that if L flipped green, then we would certianly use the next lynch on you. Doubly hurting the town.


I'm still very ok with lynching AFJ, but if people don't agree I'm fine with that.

List of fairly inactive players:

vivi57
redtooth
RoL
Ohn

I say we go after RoL first. He strikes me as moderately scummy, and is the scummiest looking player who voted for Jspazz.

On June 15 2010 08:00 Foolishness wrote:


We don't need to spend time right now lynching possible DT's because they have a slim chance of being red. That's something we do if we're in a desperate scenario. Godfather being dead now means we stick to the original plan of lynching an inactive and coordinating DT checks on someone tomorrow (I like Ohn, he's always inactive when he's mafia I have first hand experience with that)

On June 16 2010 05:54 MooCow wrote:
Yea I must be REALLY bad at this game for citizen ( if he's town ) to want to kill me.

I'm not even trying to look like mafia and i'm DT but I still come off as mafia!

2 faces -__-;; T__T.

On June 14 2010 01:17 Radfield wrote:



I think lynching moocow right now is premature. If he's telling the truth then we hurt ourselves doubly: the loss of a town aligned player, and giving the mafia less blue targets to shoot at.

I realize that by focusing on AFJ today we're kind of giving the less active players a pass. But we can focus on them tomorrow.

I'd like to know the opinions on whom we should lynch from these people:

Vivi57
citi.zen
Foolishness
redtooth
RebirthOfLeGend

I'd like to hear everyone else's opinion as well, but these 5 are a bit on the inactive side.

On June 15 2010 11:17 Radfield wrote:
I agree 100% with foolishness. By having our dt's check the same person, and then subsequently killing that person, we should be able to get very close to figuring out the sanities. I also think that the results should not be made public, and should be pm'ed to two people before having the results released.

My absence is due to exceeding our bandwidth limit and basically getting cut off for 24 hrs. Our speed drops to almost zero, and sometimes doesn't work at all.


These are our remaining players

Claimed Blue
Meeple
Ludwig
Moocow

Not very suspicious at the moment
Foolishness
Citizen
AcrossFiveJulys

Mildly Suspicious
Chezinu
Flamewheel
Redtooth

People can slot me in wherever they think I belong. Personally I find moocow to be more suspicious then ludwig, but I think it possible that both are legit dt's. Very likely one is naive if that's the case. It's still premature to start offing the blues though.

Despite the fact we have 2 mafia down, losing 3 greens today seriously hurts us. Day 5 is lynch or lose at this point, assuming no medic saves or vets.

Personally I find redtooth the most suspicious of those three, Chez second, Flamewheel third.

On June 16 2010 13:41 LuDwig- wrote:
Just wake up. Checked radfield. Result: Green.

On June 17 2010 14:08 Foolishness wrote:
So who's getting checked tonight? Obviously we should do one of: Radfield, redtooth, Chezinu. Then we must decide who to kill tomorrow assuming a green result.

So I would say, we check redtooth and kill Radfield. Unless of course the result of the check is Mafia.

On June 17 2010 14:32 Radfield wrote:



Trust me, if it was me as mafia, I would concede. What kind of player do you think I am? I'm not here to waste people's time.

I very much doubt redtooth is mafia, as he's playing a very strange pseudo inactive strategy if he is. It's just too obvious. He'll probably be modkilled anyways though. I think Flamewheel would concede at this point. I know Chezinu would not concede at this point. Also, Chez seems quite confident that I am not mafia, and he seems to be the only person in the thread who really thinks so. The only other player in this game who was sure I was pro-town was Ludwig.

Also, Flamewheel isn't necessarily not mafia because he got roleblocked. Ludwig needed to roleblock Flamewheel so that if the watcher looked at flamewheel, he would see that both 'dts' visited. Also, we have a watcher, tracker, doctor and dayvig. It seems likely we have a naive dt and not a sane one. Having a sane dt would make this game a cakewalk.

I recommend that if you lynch me, you then lynch Flamewheel and Chezinu, in whatever order you like.

On June 18 2010 11:32 Vivi57 wrote:
great game thanks to citizen

otherwise, we'd probably have been sweeped