EPTonihunter (said he was catching up on reading last night but didn't post anything afterwards)
moocow
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zeks
brownbear
DarthThienAn (but had 1 large post summarizing his thoughts and he's not campaigning anymore so fine with me)
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the OP or figured out himself: On June 03 2010 05:17 MooCow wrote: How does an excel sheet help ? Asking as a noob/first timer of the game. On June 03 2010 12:57 MooCow wrote: Can a mafia member be voted in as mayor? During the voting can the public vote to kill the mayor? On June 03 2010 13:06 MooCow wrote: I see, this is my first time playing, so it would be really important to get a DT or someone to check the potential mayor candidates before we vote them in right? If the DT's find anything can it be told to the public or is it private information? Looking at everything so far Zeks seems like a potential mafia and there's too little info for Yellowink. On June 03 2010 13:29 MooCow wrote: So I assume any info the DT's find are told to everyone in this thread about clues etc? In like every other post he mentions or leverages the fact that he's new at the game. e.g, in addition to above posts, On June 03 2010 09:53 MooCow wrote: Probably more interesting to play with people that are participating in the game rather than kill the people that are participating. E: Never played the game either, first time trying. On June 03 2010 13:58 MooCow wrote: Damn I agree with Oni again, Yellowink seems to be really pushing hard for the mayor position which is fair and understandable but for me it seems a bit suspicious. I believe the point of the game is to persuade and con people into believing whatever you say and influence it in your favor from what I see so far. On June 03 2010 23:01 MooCow wrote: Thanks to everyone posting additional information about the game for the newer people. It'd be great if you added more inputs Crate it was easy to understand and read. We still have time before we all vote for the mayor right? With 30 people here there's still a bunch of people still to post so would we be looking those people as potential first day lynch? He also often overcompensates and makes sure that he mentions that he could be mafia so people wouldn't think he's leaving that out: On June 03 2010 12:11 MooCow wrote: Whoa great find imo. The Naruto and knives thing, they do indeed throw knives around a lot on that anime. Can we defend ourselves from accusations? On the disturbed thing, after reading through the paragraph the word disturbed just seemed like a very common word to be used there, but fair play even after reading through that i'd be suspicious of me! Seriously that's just the tip of the iceberg, almost all of his posts are overcompensating or being a "newb townie". He appeared to get very worried about the yellowink/darth election and stated FOUR times that it seems possible for mafia to be able to organize and get one of their six elected. Then after it seemed they would be elected he stopped complaining. Please other people look through his post history and tell me if you get the same vibe. | ||
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On June 08 2010 00:26 MooCow wrote: Yes i'm a noob to the game of mafia. Some of the stuff I asked could of been figured out from reading the OP and some couldn't, which is my bad for not going through the OP carefully. Like I said it's as if you were going out of your way to ask questions to make yourself look newbie. That's what looks suspicious. I surely don't overcompensate imo. I just post whatever I think but as crate said earlier I think I don't do much convincing in my posts so they are just general thoughts of the progress of the game. I'm sure you surely don't overcompensate in your opinion too. You better start doing some convincing rather than posting contentless garbage like the way you are defending yourself right now if you don't want to look suspicious. Then after it seemed they would be elected he stopped complaining. Nope, that's not true. Even if you read crate analysis of me it says I still continue to be wary of both YI and Darth. Even in one of my more recent posts I say why I am and what not so I don't see how you managed to get that. fine, your complaining was significantly reduced but not completely gone. This isn't what made me think you are mafia anyway. | ||
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On June 08 2010 01:46 BrownBear wrote: Yeah, joined midway through though so I didn't get to play last season, will be playing next season tho  AFJ: Why the sudden pushing really really hard for voting for MooCow? I'm reading through your logic, and it seems alright, but in a day where it seems likely Deuce is going to get the axe, why would you start pushing really hard to lynch someone else? It makes no sense to me. I'm going to stick my vote on Deuce as a placeholder: like I said earlier, if he posts some content I have no problem changing it, but if he keeps trolling the KPop thread instead of posting here, well... I'm pushing really hard on MooCow because 1) I'm fairly convinced he's mafia and 2) I think it's unlikely that deuce is mafia and thus likely that we would be wasting a lynch. And he hasn't posted in the Kpop thread in awhile (20 hours) so he's probably not avoiding this thread for being-mafia-ey reasons. | ||
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On June 08 2010 03:34 MooCow wrote: Voting for Deuce due to his inactivity and he just seems like he doesn't want to be in this game. AND pyr0ma5ta gets banned after my posts on him -_-; Shit I hope pyr0ma5ta can still post in the mafia forum T_T And voting for Deuce because he doesn't want to be in the game is not a good reason. That would imply that he's probably not mafia so we DONT want to lynch him. I'm trying to be civil here rather than yelling at you for saying retarded mafia-like things since your analysis of pyr0 was decent, I hope you appreciate it. I am going to firmly state that I think we should figure out a more juicy target for today's lynching than deuce. If we can't come to somewhat of an agreement, then I am fine with deuce. Maybe we'll get lucky and he'll flip red, meaning he's an absolutely retarded mafia and his team doesn't have control over him. But I find that event rather unlikely. I suggest someone analyzes LunarDestiny's post history. He's had bandwagony voting behavior, namely recently for deuce, and gives a very weak reason for suspecting him as shown in my short exchange with him: AcrossFiveJulys wrote: Then why are you so adamant about lynching deuce? He fits into that same category. Here are a few of your posts trying to get everyone to vote for deuce: On June 07 2010 22:17 AcrossFiveJulys wrote: In the K-pop thread, he has two posts on June 5th and one on June 7th. So basically just one post on teamliquid outside the mafia since the game has really started. I'd hardly call that someone active on TL outside mafia. I really think he's a terrible target at this point. At the moment I'm suspicious of MooCow (less now) and people going after Deuce (8 people voted for him, there could easily be a few mafia mixed in there) because in my eyes he's such an obviously terrible target. And if he flipped green everyone on that list has the excuse that they are promoting active posting and thats why they voted for him. | ||
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On June 08 2010 04:32 zeks wrote: I am 70% sure Deuce will flip green. 1. Hasn't even stood up for himself. 2. The distribution of votes is ridiculously one sided and we still have (8 hours?) to go. 3. Fairly obvious theres a bandwagon going on. I don't remember anyone trying to really "save" Deuce from the lynch from the get go where the first couple of votes started to come in ... except for a brief moment we did have a tie with Gila and Deuce ... then everybody stacked on Deuce. If however he turns red (best case scenario): We should divert our attention to the bottom of the voting list for Deuce and the short Gila list. Look there are at least 3 of us who are against knee-jerk voting for deuce and for finding a more suitable candidate. I'm pretty sure others in the town would be inclined to listen and change their votes if we come up with a better alternative. I've already pointed the finger at one active person, MooCow, but other inactive people like hugoboss, misder, and 3 Lions seem like viable alternatives to deuce (they have at least made a few posts with content which means they might be trying to put on the appearance of contributing while hiding in inactivity). | ||
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On June 08 2010 05:21 YellowInk wrote: Oh, hi Hugoboss21. Voting but no post? Better be hearing from you within the next few minutes. Nice catch. | ||
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What the hell does lynching deuce give us? At best, a red. But we all know that's a fat chance. So most likely he's going to flip green. What information can we glean from that? Not a godamn thing, since everyone voting for him has the excuse that they are trying to take out inactives. Let that fucker rot as dead weight for another day -- if he's town, letting him live isn't hurting us. If we vote MooCow and he flips town, at least there will be some interesting information to analyze afterwards (and I will look suspicious as hell, but I'm willing to take that risk). | ||
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On June 08 2010 06:29 Misder wrote: Question: What is the simple way to finding a specific person's posts on this thread? I think the easiest way is like this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=AcrossFiveJulys Change the username at the end to who you want to search for. You can also go to their public profile and click on their number of posts. | ||
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On June 08 2010 07:14 MooCow wrote: So this is pretty weird imo... After AFJ posts this saying i'm less suspicious and my "analysis" was decent enough for him to not yell at me he does this. You first post about me on page 42 and we currently on page 43. Page 42 - I defend myself Page 43 - I say why i'm suspicious of Zeks and I also say i'm still suspicious of YI but getting less suspicious of Darth. I give my thoughts on pyro and vote for Deuce. I also say i'm suspicious of people with low activity and the people that voted for Gilaboy. Page 45 - I explain clearly why i'm voting for Deuce and not weak targets. So you think one analysis post and changing your behavior to just agreeing with everyone is enough to vindicate you? No sir. The stuff above answers the spoilered posts. Now what's confusing is the time at which you came back to call me out and the people that are voting for me, other than you are DCLXVI and Misder. Both are low posters and posted close to each other. Misder also posts 2 minute right after you saying almost the same thing. You accused LunarDestiny of doing the bandwagon thing and it seems like you're trying to create one right now. Fine, so I've started a bandwagon. There's a difference between a bandwagon based on posting behavior analysis and clue linkage and a bandwagon for in inactive with absolutely no other clues tied to him. The people who changed their vote to you clearly also see through your behavior, and I hope the rest who agree with me aren't too shy to change their vote from useless deuce to you. Please only jump on this bandwagon if you agree with my logic and not because all the cool kids are doing it (which they are >:O). But the most confusing thing is how much you're going after me. If i'm not mafia as you said yourself you'd would look suspicious but maybe you have a plan to come out of it. I'm starting to think you're mafia by trying to create bandwagons and as soon as you posted that the inactive people come in right after. Why would I go balls out and lead an offensive against you if I was mafia? Clearly I am going to be the one blamed if you get hung and flip blue or green. Sacrificing myself as a mafioso just to net one town kill and possibly save mafia deuce (lol) for one day would not be worth it, since either a vigi would nab deuce tonight or he would get hung at some later time after me. I don't have hard evidence against you (just clues and posting behavior) but you are glowing red in my eyes. | ||
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On June 08 2010 07:09 YellowInk wrote: Alright, we're late in day 2 and I'm headed out for a few hours. I'm not sure if I'll be back before close of voting, but even if I am, I probably won't be able to influence it much anymore. So, some parting thoughts. I think that the info on MooCow is insufficient to hang him at this time. Hanging MooCow and finding him town will make a couple people look bad, but not so badly that we could justify hanging them for it. Turning MooCow up red will similarly not implicate anyone all that strongly. Compare this to DeuceGladlier. This is an inactive poster - a strike against him because if we allow posters like this to remain in the game, other posters who may be mafia (eg Hugoboss21, CompX, etc) will have no incentive to post. Deuce may turn up green, but by the very nature that so many people are against hanging this target I am inclined to believe him more likely to be red than when I first voted for him. If he does turn up red, it's going to look very poorly on some people - strongly enough that we may have a real case. Even if it were only randomly likely that Deuce was mafia, he's still the way to go. If we allow this game to be decided by random chance (which is what happens when noone posts), the mafia win the vast majority of games. Yeah? And what happens when he flips green? We get nothing. And this is the more probable outcome as everyone knows. And who's going to look bad if he flips red? Me? If I was mafia I'd be telling that fucktard to get his ass on the forum and give an excuse that his family was killed by an axe murderer to have any chance of him appearing innocent, I sure as hell wouldn't be trying to bail him out when my chance of succeeding is so slim. | ||
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On June 08 2010 09:22 Misder wrote: I just looked at TyranoS_NiveK's profile, and he has barely posted anything. Its already June 7th and almost end of voting. I think that someone said to cut him some slack because of the math competition, but I think that him being inactive plus creating the amiguous profile makes lynching him (if he doesn't get modkilled first) a priority. He even says that he will respond every other day. Maybe there is something wrong in his schedule, but I think its more beneficial if he dies. Ok, this sounds like pro-town behavior. I don't get anything suspicious off this post. This saddens me because I don't want to advocate lynching a townie who may have problems getting on the internet. If he starts posting good analysis and whatnot, then I think it would be a hard decision between him and MooCow. Again, nothing suspicious. I think that he may be pro-town who has internet connections. But this is based on only 4 quotes. I think we need to see more activity from him. PS All my analysis is based on this ambiguity. Now, I am wondering if this is a good case to argue, because if it isn't, everything I've said is pretty useless. Someone want to comment? Nice work Misder. I agree that he seems a bit suspicious, but I'm inclined to buy his math competition excuse for the time being (I think someone outside the game actually came in to say he really is involved in math competition and to cut him some slack till its over). Hope to see him posting again here soon. There is, however, the fact that he's linked to MooCow through the identical profile clue (check out sputnik.theory's post earlier if you missed it) and MooCow is clearly suspicious already. If one of them turns out to be mafia it seems likely the other one is as well. | ||
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On June 07 2010 05:09 MooCow wrote: In one of the mafia threads I think it was some kind of Russian war as soon as the game started 2 guys ( Chizenu(sp) and Mandongo(sp)) started killing each other and everyone seemed confused lol. So he follows mafia threads but is still completely ignorant to rules and still posts like a retard? | ||
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On June 08 2010 10:36 DarthThienAn wrote: *big sigh* one bad option vs the other. Will I regret it if I switch ? lol. If we knew for sure this game wouldn't be too fun, now would it?  | ||
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