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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 31 2010 17:28 GMT
#301
I have a question, can the watcher day shoot?
Adonai bless
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7447 Posts
May 31 2010 17:39 GMT
#302
On June 01 2010 02:27 LunarDestiny wrote:
I thought there are two sides of town right now. Pro-L (role claimed people) and anti-L (those who think L's plan is stupid and want L dead).

What I tried to say in the above post is the town got to stick together. Just try L's plan and see what comes out of it for a day or two. That is much better than wasting another day killing L and possibility another day killing the person who killed L.

I am leaning towards L being innocent if Godfather is picked randomly by host and not chosen by the mafia team. So if I was the w a ...tcher, I would publically claim to L that I'm wa tch ing him. But that is me, I'm not your typical player. L usually plays to win by using logic... so based on that I would say he is innocent as long as the Godfather is picked randomly. (now this is when L posts how he thinks I'm innocent after reading this post...hopefully - I am not b r o w n!).
lol, clueless in The Prism!
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 31 2010 17:40 GMT
#303
On June 01 2010 02:16 Chezinu wrote:
G __ __ B __ N O __

your really good

If your word is "Gambinos" that would be hilarious.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 31 2010 17:42 GMT
#304
If the watcher can dayshoot then I personally think L is either the Watcher or Godfather. Him being plain green makes little to no sense considering how retarded he would have played if it were true.
Adonai bless
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
May 31 2010 18:03 GMT
#305
Jesus you're terrible at this.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 31 2010 18:06 GMT
#306
On June 01 2010 02:42 XeliN wrote:
If the watcher can dayshoot then I personally think L is either the Watcher or Godfather. Him being plain green makes little to no sense considering how retarded he would have played if it were true.


...his plan makes perfect sense to me. I might not have picked Korynne as the target, but I would have done the same thing.

On June 01 2010 02:27 LunarDestiny wrote:
I thought there are two sides of town right now. Pro-L (role claimed people) and anti-L (those who think L's plan is stupid and want L dead).

What I tried to say in the above post is the town got to stick together. Just try L's plan and see what comes out of it for a day or two. That is much better than wasting another day killing L and possibility another day killing the person who killed L.


Can we call them L's team and Kira's team? Kira gogogogo.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 31 2010 18:06 GMT
#307
Don't take the lords name in vain. It offends me.
Adonai bless
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 31 2010 18:07 GMT
#308
btw, Ace/flamewheel when does night end?
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 31 2010 18:07 GMT
#309
-_-

Insane occurrences. I disagree with L on killing Korynne, but I understand why. It makes sense, but it could of been anyone...I don't like L's whole "My plan is best, we're going with it" attitude either. I mean, it's a good plan, but I keep saying you go about presenting them in the wrong way.

Anyway, who will be shooting tomorrow, and who will be shot?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 31 2010 18:08 GMT
#310
Ok Darth, can you please explain to me L's plan and more importantly why it makes sense.
Adonai bless
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 31 2010 18:20 GMT
#311
On June 01 2010 03:08 XeliN wrote:
Ok Darth, can you please explain to me L's plan and more importantly why it makes sense.


OK, what did he do?
He shot Korynne, without everyone's say yadayada. What was he trying to accomplish? Give the cop some useful information, the whole hit a godfather/mafia/third party thing would have been a bonus. So he did that, trying to give the cop some information about his sanity.

What would the town have done without L?
1) Someone would have done what L did, except without a reason.
2) We would have talked it over and shot someone randomly. Take out the first part, and look at what L did, with a couple changes. Better to take advantage and give the cop information with a random kill than have it just be a random kill. Hopefully the cop followed what L said or else it's a bit of a waste.

The roleclaim thing makes sense too. Saying "I can shoot" isn't that hard, for anyone. I think his reasoning is that mafia will say "I can shoot" and then dodge/lurk the rest of the way, pretending that they are safe.


It's not the best plan, but it was a plan that he only needed a couple of people in order to make it work. Better than having no plan.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
May 31 2010 18:26 GMT
#312
Night ends in 9.5 hours from now.

Xelin read the rules, Watchers can't shoot.

Everyone, all roles were randomly assigned.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 31 2010 18:34 GMT
#313
I'm going to go back on what I said and not shoot L tomorrow unless there is town agreement that I or someone else should. Cba to be the only one standing by the rules we outlined at the beggining and as someone already said, given most peoples current reaction it is likely to end up in a "X kills Y who is killed by Z for killing Y who is...." getting us nowhere.

For the record we ought to pick someone to kill L tomorrow and become verified in the process. L's plan is completely useless in almost every sense, and Darth has pretty much outlined why.

When asked to explain L's plan and outline why it is good he instead explained L's actions. His argument for roleclaiming making sense is that saying "I can shoot" isn't hard, and lulling the mafia into a false sense of security.

It's possible I am more against L's plan and actions simply for the irritating way he's gone about it. "This is what were doing bla bla bla, no consensus, argument or anything else useful, simply trust me i'm awesome and my intuition alone will win us this game". Thats why I said his being the Watcher seems quite plausible as he would actually have a role where adopting this kindof position is more justifiable.
Adonai bless
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 31 2010 18:39 GMT
#314
Ace I just looked over the rules twice, it doesn't mention the watcher being unable to shoot, the only two roles it is specified in are Cop and Doctor thats what made me ask. That changes my position slightly on the shooting L thing, if he is green he is completely useless and ought to be killed for random shooting, and if he is red the same is true but for the opposite reason of him being completely useful (to the mafia).
Adonai bless
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 31 2010 18:39 GMT
#315
On June 01 2010 03:34 XeliN wrote:
I'm going to go back on what I said and not shoot L tomorrow unless there is town agreement that I or someone else should. Cba to be the only one standing by the rules we outlined at the beggining and as someone already said, given most peoples current reaction it is likely to end up in a "X kills Y who is killed by Z for killing Y who is...." getting us nowhere.

For the record we ought to pick someone to kill L tomorrow and become verified in the process. L's plan is completely useless in almost every sense, and Darth has pretty much outlined why.

When asked to explain L's plan and outline why it is good he instead explained L's actions. His argument for roleclaiming making sense is that saying "I can shoot" isn't hard, and lulling the mafia into a false sense of security.

It's possible I am more against L's plan and actions simply for the irritating way he's gone about it. "This is what were doing bla bla bla, no consensus, argument or anything else useful, simply trust me i'm awesome and my intuition alone will win us this game". Thats why I said his being the Watcher seems quite plausible as he would actually have a role where adopting this kindof position is more justifiable.


?

It was pretty useful if the cop followed the plan.

His other part is pretty useful as well, but people aren't following it.

yea?
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
May 31 2010 18:39 GMT
#316
By the way guys, I'm still the serial killer.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
May 31 2010 18:41 GMT
#317
On June 01 2010 03:39 XeliN wrote:
Ace I just looked over the rules twice, it doesn't mention the watcher being unable to shoot, the only two roles it is specified in are Cop and Doctor thats what made me ask. That changes my position slightly on the shooting L thing, if he is green he is completely useless and ought to be killed for random shooting, and if he is red the same is true but for the opposite reason of him being completely useful (to the mafia).


He's only red if he's the GF. Pretty unlikely that a GF would attract so much attention so early on.
www.cstarleague.com | Love is like playing the piano. First you must learn to play by the rules, then you must forget the rules and play from your heart.
Nikon
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bulgaria5710 Posts
May 31 2010 18:44 GMT
#318
On June 01 2010 03:20 DarthThienAn wrote:
The roleclaim thing makes sense too. Saying "I can shoot" isn't that hard, for anyone. I think his reasoning is that mafia will say "I can shoot" and then dodge/lurk the rest of the way, pretending that they are safe.


Yeah, except that claiming that you can shoot is kinda bad, since if you can't shoot and claim that you can, you can't prove it in any way or shape, whereas the reverse isn't true - you can prove that you can't shoot by well... not shooting. Of course, reverse psychology applies in both cases, but by this point any claim might as well be nonsense as far as figuring out who does what is concerned, given that no one takes a shot.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
May 31 2010 18:46 GMT
#319
On June 01 2010 03:39 flamewheel wrote:
By the way guys, I'm still the serial killer.

oh hell no, I cc.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
May 31 2010 18:47 GMT
#320
As far as I can tell the one useful thing L has done is potentially help a cop verify his actual role. This was done at the expense of killing a town player, and also done without outlining any argument whatsoever for why Korynne was a potential mafia other than "she seems scummy as hell".

I even outlined why I didn't think Korynne was not mafia, and that the way she had posted so far was different in style to the last game I played with her where she was actually mafia.

Some of you are quite literally letting L get away with murder...... and Darth thats a WIFOM argument (I hope I used this right..) and expecting L, a veteran player, to act in a predictable manner if he was the Godfather is wrong imo.

Adonai bless
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