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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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Chezinu
United States7466 Posts
On June 01 2010 02:27 LunarDestiny wrote: I thought there are two sides of town right now. Pro-L (role claimed people) and anti-L (those who think L's plan is stupid and want L dead). What I tried to say in the above post is the town got to stick together. Just try L's plan and see what comes out of it for a day or two. That is much better than wasting another day killing L and possibility another day killing the person who killed L. I am leaning towards L being innocent if Godfather is picked randomly by host and not chosen by the mafia team. So if I was the w a ...tcher, I would publically claim to L that I'm wa tch ing him. But that is me, I'm not your typical player. L usually plays to win by using logic... so based on that I would say he is innocent as long as the Godfather is picked randomly. (now this is when L posts how he thinks I'm innocent after reading this post...hopefully - I am not b r o w n!). | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On June 01 2010 02:16 Chezinu wrote: G __ __ B __ N O __ your really good If your word is "Gambinos" that would be hilarious. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 01 2010 02:42 XeliN wrote: If the watcher can dayshoot then I personally think L is either the Watcher or Godfather. Him being plain green makes little to no sense considering how retarded he would have played if it were true. ...his plan makes perfect sense to me. I might not have picked Korynne as the target, but I would have done the same thing. On June 01 2010 02:27 LunarDestiny wrote: I thought there are two sides of town right now. Pro-L (role claimed people) and anti-L (those who think L's plan is stupid and want L dead). What I tried to say in the above post is the town got to stick together. Just try L's plan and see what comes out of it for a day or two. That is much better than wasting another day killing L and possibility another day killing the person who killed L. Can we call them L's team and Kira's team? Kira gogogogo. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
Insane occurrences. I disagree with L on killing Korynne, but I understand why. It makes sense, but it could of been anyone...I don't like L's whole "My plan is best, we're going with it" attitude either. I mean, it's a good plan, but I keep saying you go about presenting them in the wrong way. Anyway, who will be shooting tomorrow, and who will be shot? | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 01 2010 03:08 XeliN wrote: Ok Darth, can you please explain to me L's plan and more importantly why it makes sense. OK, what did he do? He shot Korynne, without everyone's say yadayada. What was he trying to accomplish? Give the cop some useful information, the whole hit a godfather/mafia/third party thing would have been a bonus. So he did that, trying to give the cop some information about his sanity. What would the town have done without L? 1) Someone would have done what L did, except without a reason. 2) We would have talked it over and shot someone randomly. Take out the first part, and look at what L did, with a couple changes. Better to take advantage and give the cop information with a random kill than have it just be a random kill. Hopefully the cop followed what L said or else it's a bit of a waste. The roleclaim thing makes sense too. Saying "I can shoot" isn't that hard, for anyone. I think his reasoning is that mafia will say "I can shoot" and then dodge/lurk the rest of the way, pretending that they are safe. It's not the best plan, but it was a plan that he only needed a couple of people in order to make it work. Better than having no plan. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Xelin read the rules, Watchers can't shoot. Everyone, all roles were randomly assigned. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
For the record we ought to pick someone to kill L tomorrow and become verified in the process. L's plan is completely useless in almost every sense, and Darth has pretty much outlined why. When asked to explain L's plan and outline why it is good he instead explained L's actions. His argument for roleclaiming making sense is that saying "I can shoot" isn't hard, and lulling the mafia into a false sense of security. It's possible I am more against L's plan and actions simply for the irritating way he's gone about it. "This is what were doing bla bla bla, no consensus, argument or anything else useful, simply trust me i'm awesome and my intuition alone will win us this game". Thats why I said his being the Watcher seems quite plausible as he would actually have a role where adopting this kindof position is more justifiable. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 01 2010 03:34 XeliN wrote: I'm going to go back on what I said and not shoot L tomorrow unless there is town agreement that I or someone else should. Cba to be the only one standing by the rules we outlined at the beggining and as someone already said, given most peoples current reaction it is likely to end up in a "X kills Y who is killed by Z for killing Y who is...." getting us nowhere. For the record we ought to pick someone to kill L tomorrow and become verified in the process. L's plan is completely useless in almost every sense, and Darth has pretty much outlined why. When asked to explain L's plan and outline why it is good he instead explained L's actions. His argument for roleclaiming making sense is that saying "I can shoot" isn't hard, and lulling the mafia into a false sense of security. It's possible I am more against L's plan and actions simply for the irritating way he's gone about it. "This is what were doing bla bla bla, no consensus, argument or anything else useful, simply trust me i'm awesome and my intuition alone will win us this game". Thats why I said his being the Watcher seems quite plausible as he would actually have a role where adopting this kindof position is more justifiable. ? It was pretty useful if the cop followed the plan. His other part is pretty useful as well, but people aren't following it. yea? | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
On June 01 2010 03:39 XeliN wrote: Ace I just looked over the rules twice, it doesn't mention the watcher being unable to shoot, the only two roles it is specified in are Cop and Doctor thats what made me ask. That changes my position slightly on the shooting L thing, if he is green he is completely useless and ought to be killed for random shooting, and if he is red the same is true but for the opposite reason of him being completely useful (to the mafia). He's only red if he's the GF. Pretty unlikely that a GF would attract so much attention so early on. | ||
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Nikon
Bulgaria5710 Posts
On June 01 2010 03:20 DarthThienAn wrote: The roleclaim thing makes sense too. Saying "I can shoot" isn't that hard, for anyone. I think his reasoning is that mafia will say "I can shoot" and then dodge/lurk the rest of the way, pretending that they are safe. Yeah, except that claiming that you can shoot is kinda bad, since if you can't shoot and claim that you can, you can't prove it in any way or shape, whereas the reverse isn't true - you can prove that you can't shoot by well... not shooting. Of course, reverse psychology applies in both cases, but by this point any claim might as well be nonsense as far as figuring out who does what is concerned, given that no one takes a shot. | ||
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Hesmyrr
Canada5776 Posts
On June 01 2010 03:39 flamewheel wrote: By the way guys, I'm still the serial killer. oh hell no, I cc. | ||
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
I even outlined why I didn't think Korynne was not mafia, and that the way she had posted so far was different in style to the last game I played with her where she was actually mafia. Some of you are quite literally letting L get away with murder...... and Darth thats a WIFOM argument (I hope I used this right..) and expecting L, a veteran player, to act in a predictable manner if he was the Godfather is wrong imo. | ||
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