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~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 02:50 GMT
#557
Damn.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 02:53 GMT
#558
Well guys...

I'll help you narrow down your target lists.

I am Lu Bu, after Diao Chan's death I have lost my special abilities. I am for a neutral victory, so lets hunt down some faction leaders. No need to target me. =(
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 03:03 GMT
#560
On May 21 2010 11:58 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 11:53 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Well guys...

I'll help you narrow down your target lists.

I am Lu Bu, after Diao Chan's death I have lost my special abilities. I am for a neutral victory, so lets hunt down some faction leaders. No need to target me. =(


Once again, I can guarantee a faction leader.

Oh yea. I would claim to of lost my powers because of Diao Chan's death if I wasn't Lu Bu.

Anyone care to counter claim? Cao Cao is dead already, Diao Chan being killed f'd me over (which I didn't even know it would!), and now I'm powerless, not to mention painting a MASSIVE target on myself by role claiming Lu Bu (if I was lying). So yea....It's w/e. I'd prefer killing someone else.

Also, as far as I know, I'm still neutral. So lets find another faction leader. I'ma get some food, then scour some posts.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 07:47 GMT
#617
On May 21 2010 13:27 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 13:13 L wrote:
Except the fact whether I die or not you will follow or prove my innocents.
But you won't prove anything because you're going to flip YT. YT doesn't give a shit if they sacrifice one of their chumps to secure a lynch because they're 2 people ahead, maybe more if they can do that.

You forget that I know you're lying. Like, flat out, 100% certain.

I also know that because you're lying, you're probably YT.

Lets look at how the day started; you go "i have a leader" for some reason. You don't just flat out go "I checked L and he's a Leader". You try to finesse your way into office. Someone goes "ok" and you're like "YO GUY, 100% I KNOW". When it becomes obvious that no one's going to trust you straight up, you lie outright and target me.

Or rather, you probably thought it wasn't a lie because of the vig hit. And you figured that you'd be cleared as a DT if you were right. But sadly if i hadn't been saved by a medic, I'd be dead, and you'd be happy just the same.

So yeah, pretty obvious ruse. Nice try with the yellow lettering though.


Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. Even if you did have a med and vig hit. Which I don't know why you would have 1 person decide to kill you and 1 medic decide to protect you out of no where.

You are obviously lying and trying to save your Faction Leader skin.

The biggest issue is I won't turn up what you claim because you are indeed not telling the truth. This is convincing me even more that you are possibly YT.

L you're lie can only take you so far. You're going to die no matter what. You know my death will prove your guilt cause of my some what DT ability.

With your death my innocence is proven and that is a guarantee of my abilities and your lies.

I am letting you know THIS IS A GUARANTEE NOT A RISK! L IS A FACTION LEADER! IF YOU LET HIM MANIPULATE YOU THIS TIME HE WILL CONTINUE TO MANIPULATE YOU AND RECRUIT YOU!!!

EVERYONE Know this, if L he does live, everyone else recruited by other faction leaders will know he is a faction leader if he continues to play. L will die and all he recruits will come down with him.

Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN!

...Actually so far roles haven't been revealed on death. Nobody but me knew about my loss of abilities. (Killed night visitors, and a special requirement for me to be killed during the day.)

So I dunno where your going with this, but I'm fine with killing L. Iaaan will probably die with him.

Also...Don't DT's check alignment? Seems more like a role check role....

L's making fun because Tricode (is he new?) isn't aware dt's don't know their sanity? Keep in mind Tricode seems to of checked role, not alignment...L is simply a Faction Leader, not a Kingdom...so it's role not alignment.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 07:48 GMT
#618
Bill...My claim was within the posts you quoted....

-__-
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 17:30 GMT
#642
So I was sent this message day 1.



##### Encrypted: decrypt with http://www.fourmilab.ch/javascrypt/
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NMGKH DNGCB FLOFD AIDBL ETLNM BUHQR NCAVB UPRJW VKLIK OQJJP OPQOV
XAUVF BJARU VKLIR OJORT KJXFS LAVCG XLKAE JOFHO QXINO HCOEB PRBUU
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FTSMI NHCSL VXOLW UMJFO TORGM PCAEE DZZZZ YYYYY
##### End encrypted message

With the key received today:

liubeigottahater

And I was asked to post it in the thread. The role is
I am Lu Xun. At night I can pick one person. Any night command that relates to that person's identity, should it be recruitment or investigation, will be nullified. However, neither I or the protected will know if the action was successful or not.

Now some of you may know who I'm talking about, and if he feels like claiming his role, he can do it. But I've just been asked to post it. And since I'm powerless, and he already knew my character if he needs a go between and doesn't feel like stepping forward, I'm fine with that.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 17:36 GMT
#644
On May 22 2010 00:05 Radfield wrote:
Consider if the YT's had a role checker, they would never have to fear about recruiting a leader, because they would always check a player one night and recruit him the next. And if they DO find a leader, they can bandwagon him in the thread, because everyone is so gung ho about killing off leaders.

The more I think about it, the more I think we should let L live for now, and really focus on hunting the YT's. But I'll think on that some more first.

I still don't know about letting L live. That's one less person recruiting, and more people helping us. My friend Lu Xun says TriCode is full of shit btw, but that's all I know. I dunno if he jumped to protect/cancel L, or if his role works as medic or not. I dunno if that's the medic claim you've been looking for either. We haven't talked in a sec, and I'm trying to get some clarity.

But if he protected L he would of canceled the action (maybe L's too?). I'll try and find some more out in a little, but I got some things to do in a bit.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 17:42 GMT
#646
On May 22 2010 02:18 Korynne wrote:
I wonder if Abenson revealing his role makes YT want to recruit him or not. xP

He probably kills YT if they try and recruit him actually...I would of hit anyone who tried to recruit me and it would of taken one of the night lives of a leader. (I assumed leader's had extra night lives because of this, before LR posted)
But I dunno. Probably a secondary feature of his role. Also, whoever killed Diao Chan probably is/was neutral, because I don't recall many posts from the person with that role. But that may just be because I'm lazy right now.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 17:44 GMT
#648
On May 22 2010 02:42 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 00:02 Radfield wrote:
I disagree, alignment/role checkers and Assassins would make excellent recruits. Sure they might decide to not help their leaders, but that goes for every role in the game.


No. Bodyguards roles and the such will not have a choice, as their abilities are passive.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 00:02 Radfield wrote:
Plus YT recruits will always play to their fullest given that they can't be swiped away.


Says who? I'm pretty sure a player can very well not give a damn if he didn't want to play for the YT for whatever reason he has.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 00:02 Radfield wrote:
And remember that the leaders have the option of getting Caller to notify a new recruit. For instance, if I got a msg saying I was recruited to the green team, and then the green leader contacted me the same day, I'd be pretty damn sure that I'm on the green team. Given that all players likely have a role, it would be bad practice for leaders to not tell their members that they've been recruited. Also given that we're down to three factions(possibly two after today) there will be much less member swiping by the leaders. Which again makes it more likely for the leaders to tell people they've been recruited.


I never said it wasn't impossible to find out who recruited you. I'm just pointing out the risk factor that the leaders have to take if they wanted to tell the recruits he recruited them. This is just a hypothetical scenario, but god knows if Caller allow assassins to assassin their own leader.

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 00:02 Radfield wrote:
Anyways, alignment/role checkers and assassins make excellent recruits, because as a faction leader you would be able to find and eliminate potential threats, and also find good roles to recruit.


No. They CAN be good recruits if the player wants to play for you, but for sure a good recruit, every single time? Definitely no.




Well if we are all playing to win...And our win conditions change...Then I suppose we would play for whomever recruited us then.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 17:47 GMT
#650
Oh wait. If Lu Xun protected L, L wouldn't know he had medic protection...Or took a hit. And he couldn't of been investigated. And Lu Xun wouldn't know if his role worked. So therefore Tricode and L would both be full of shit....

So I guess I gotta find out what he did last night...Lol.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 17:49 GMT
#652
On May 22 2010 02:46 LunarDestiny wrote:
I have a question. Is Lynching an absolute kill in Mafia? Can a medic protect against the lynch. If so, then it would be damn hard to kill a leader with medic protecting him every turn.

Generally yes. Some roles can save someone from getting lynched. It's generally how ever the host designs a role...And this is a Caller game (no where near normal mafia), so we should expect the unexpected to the extreme. Lol. Caller games are generally crazy as hell.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 17:51 GMT
#653
On May 22 2010 02:48 L wrote:
Wait, so I was visited by like 4 people last night? What the fuck is this.

I don't know if Lu Xun visited you or not. He just said Tricode is full of shit. But if Lu Xun DID visit you, you are full of shit too.

@_@

Confusing. Odd you would get so many visits, I guess because BC has been so damn quiet this game...
Anyone else notice that?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 17:52 GMT
#654
EBWOP:

BC being quiet in a game PM's are allowed in. Maybe it makes a little more sense then.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 18:04 GMT
#657
" I am Lu Xun. At night I can pick one person. Any night command that relates to that person's identity, should it be recruitment or investigation, will be nullified. However, neither I or the protected will know if the action was successful or not."

I guess you have a point....Maybe it wouldn't stop vigi/medic, BUTTTTTTT I dunno...The word protected is kind of throwing me off.

Also Caller has a habit of telling DT's the answer to their question as soon as he gets it. Don't forget that...(Not that I would ever accuse Caller of such grievous actions, but I got the answers in red army two instantly...Lol)

So good point...BUT L, that's only if he visited you. =P
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 18:06 GMT
#659
On May 22 2010 03:01 BrownBear wrote:
Aight, seeing as roleclaiming does not really put you at that much danger of getting bumped off in the night (heh heh), I'm going to go ahead and say why I think Tricode is telling the truth and L is a faction leader.

I am still a neutral - no faction affiliation as of yet. My current plan this game (until I get recruited, if that happens) is to aim for faction leaders and try to kill them all as fast as possible to get a neutral victory. I have nightkill powers.

...you can probably see where this is heading. I had my suspicions about L, because of the following:

Inactive for most of the day (although he says he always votes late...).

L also doesn't always vote late...Check previous games. Sometimes he opens with voting...Oh we know bout you L!!

=P
=/
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 18:12 GMT
#663
On May 22 2010 03:05 BrownBear wrote:
Ahh snap, I just read the shit about Lu Xun... was posted while I was writing that.

Well then.

So if Lu Xun wants to roleclaim, then I guess Tricode is full of shit? I'm a little confused. Is Opz Lu Xun?

No...Me and Lu Xun partially claimed to each other day 1 with just our names (openly) and our roles (encoded). We couldn't change them after sending them of course. Sadly I was unaware of the Diao Chan stipulation on my role (GRRRRRR CALLER!!!).

And Until Lu Xun either publicly role claims or sends me whether or not he targeted L, we will not know whether or not Tricode is full of shit.

Again, I am Lu Bu, not Lu Xun.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 18:14 GMT
#666
I don't know if he would of cancelled everyone elses actions BrownBear, but he would of cancelled recruitment and investigation. I can see everyones gunning for L tho...Lol

When does day end?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 21 2010 18:16 GMT
#667
On May 22 2010 03:13 BrownBear wrote:
Lol what 6 people? I only count 3, possibly 4, unless I'm missing some people. I count Tricode, Abenson, and me, and possibly Lu Xun. who else visited?

So, I'm gonna say this is my official stance:

If Lu Xun wants to say "I protected L, lay offa him ya fuckers", then I will switch my vote off of Tricode and over to L, and I vote we lynch Tricode for lying like that. If it was a medic who protected L, that would only block my night hit - not Tricode's powercheck, which would mean L is lying, and thus is still probably a faction leader, so my vote remains unchanged.

If there are no roleclaims about that shit, then I'm gonna stay with what I know - I tried to kill L last night, it failed, it's most likely that it failed because of night armor, so he's most likely a faction leader.

Alternately L, if you want to roleclaim and explain why Tricode is full of shit, either in this thread or by PMing me, I'm totally willing to listen.

I'm perfectly fine mouth piecing for Lu Xun for the day. Too many other options viable for recruiting today so he should be fine tomorrow too. I don't like the idea of him publicly doing it myself...
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 22 2010 02:25 GMT
#942
On May 22 2010 03:49 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2010 03:35 Tricode wrote:
I have a bit of a confusion here would you all please clear it up for me?

1. there is this contradictory statement of this Lu Xun saying L and Myself are full of shit? Anyone find that odd? It's a stupid possibility, one of us is telling the truth and more evidence shows that L is indeed a faction leader.

2. What does the vig and medic have to do with anything about L's role? Let's say a vig did attack L and a medic did protected him. How does that not make L a faction leader especially if I'm the dt!

3. Who is this Lu Xun and how do you just go believing him over anyone else in the game? How do you know someone is not lying? For instance someone that L recruited last night?


Look evidence shows that L is a liar and a Faction Leader. You gain more information by killing him then me. You kill me you just lose a DT and then now you have to kill L who has more recruits to back him up.

You kill L and you either prove my innocence or I die like a fucking loser. This won't happen cause L is a faction leader.

So answer my questions please before you continue with who is this medic person and who is this VG? These two people have no possible way of knowing or checking L's role.


1. Unless Caller is fucking around with phrase "You will not be notified if someone is hit or checked, nor will your target", I can't see how both of us can be telling the truth. You claim to have DT checked L, but my protection nullifies all night actions. Thus I know you are lying.

2. My protection overrides all night actions- this makes sense favour-wise because Lu Xun was great tactician. It wouldn't make sense for me to only have NK block ability.

3. ~Opz~ got my roleclaim day 1. Thus I cannot be making this up due to recruitment.

If you are genuine in your claim, obviously you would survive getting checked by Abenson then we have firm reason to lynch L. So what is the problem?

Got quite a bit to read I see. But let me read this in a way that would make sense to everyone. YOU OVERRIDE ALL NIGHT ACTIONS and DONT notify. But L KNOWS he was protected by a medic....Do what now?

-_-...AND L was contacted by the Vig?! This whole thing wild. Hes better target L again tonight huh? That's a lot of information sitting around.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
May 22 2010 02:35 GMT
#947
On May 21 2010 16:47 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2010 13:27 Tricode wrote:
On May 21 2010 13:13 L wrote:
Except the fact whether I die or not you will follow or prove my innocents.
But you won't prove anything because you're going to flip YT. YT doesn't give a shit if they sacrifice one of their chumps to secure a lynch because they're 2 people ahead, maybe more if they can do that.

You forget that I know you're lying. Like, flat out, 100% certain.

I also know that because you're lying, you're probably YT.

Lets look at how the day started; you go "i have a leader" for some reason. You don't just flat out go "I checked L and he's a Leader". You try to finesse your way into office. Someone goes "ok" and you're like "YO GUY, 100% I KNOW". When it becomes obvious that no one's going to trust you straight up, you lie outright and target me.

Or rather, you probably thought it wasn't a lie because of the vig hit. And you figured that you'd be cleared as a DT if you were right. But sadly if i hadn't been saved by a medic, I'd be dead, and you'd be happy just the same.

So yeah, pretty obvious ruse. Nice try with the yellow lettering though.


Except you have no way to prove it and making crap up. Even if you did have a med and vig hit. Which I don't know why you would have 1 person decide to kill you and 1 medic decide to protect you out of no where.

You are obviously lying and trying to save your Faction Leader skin.

The biggest issue is I won't turn up what you claim because you are indeed not telling the truth. This is convincing me even more that you are possibly YT.

L you're lie can only take you so far. You're going to die no matter what. You know my death will prove your guilt cause of my some what DT ability.

With your death my innocence is proven and that is a guarantee of my abilities and your lies.

I am letting you know THIS IS A GUARANTEE NOT A RISK! L IS A FACTION LEADER! IF YOU LET HIM MANIPULATE YOU THIS TIME HE WILL CONTINUE TO MANIPULATE YOU AND RECRUIT YOU!!!

EVERYONE Know this, if L he does live, everyone else recruited by other faction leaders will know he is a faction leader if he continues to play. L will die and all he recruits will come down with him.

Remember L. I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE AND I HAVE NOTHING TO FEAR! BUT YOU DO! YOU'RE GOING DOWN!

...Actually so far roles haven't been revealed on death. Nobody but me knew about my loss of abilities. (Killed night visitors, and a special requirement for me to be killed during the day.)

So I dunno where your going with this, but I'm fine with killing L. Iaaan will probably die with him.

Also...Don't DT's check alignment? Seems more like a role check role....

L's making fun because Tricode (is he new?) isn't aware dt's don't know their sanity? Keep in mind Tricode seems to of checked role, not alignment...L is simply a Faction Leader, not a Kingdom...so it's role not alignment.

Tricode, please reread this post.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
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