Pick Your Power Mafia!

On May 02 2010 07:48 Radfield wrote:
This is a great discussion everyone, but I feel like we need to narrow down our focus for now. I think that by far the most important thing we need to be able to do is keep tabs on the compulsive vig and the inventor. Both of these roles double the mafia KP. We need to ensure that regardless of whether they fall into mafia or town hands, we know who has them, and we control them. For this reason I think the first two people NEED to take them. First inventor, then Compulsive Vig(or vice versa, but it was already mentioned this way). That means BM and L's replacement, or foolishness if L is not replaced.

What we cannot have happen is that the mafia land either of these roles, and we don't know who they are. Bill Murray, regardless if you ever even use the inventor role, you need to take it simply to keep it out of mafia hands. To do otherwise would be very anti-town. We will likely have two docs, so they can protect you from a mafia hit while you invent pro-town equipment and dole it out. But even if you get killed, you STILL keep the inventor role out of mafia hands, which is a huge boost for the town. If anyone has any argument against this please speak up.

Just to be clear, to have either of those high KP roles in unknown mafia hands would be very painful for the town.

On May 02 2010 12:24 Qatol wrote:
Okay first big piece of news. Someone took copycat before me. This means that someone else is valuing the role a lot.

JeeJee:"keep in mind bill's reluctance to do anything useful as of yet.."

On May 03 2010 00:36 Falcynn wrote:
Also, maybe I'm not thinking straight right now, but I'm almost leaning towards setting up a townie to be lynched on the second day so we can tell all cops in this thread to investigate them. That way all the the cops will know fairly quickly what sanity they have.

On May 03 2010 00:39 Falcynn wrote:
belief that mafia only have a nightly kp of 1 will give us some leeway so we don't feel pressured to hit scum everyday.

On May 03 2010 01:04 Falcynn wrote:
Sure, hell if enough people actually think my cop plan is any good, I'll even offer myself up for sacrifice.

On May 04 2010 08:07 Scamp wrote:


Honestly, I don't know. You should explain.

On May 04 2010 07:00 Bill Murray wrote:
Who is going to be really active over the next 30 hours on here?

On May 04 2010 07:15 Bill Murray wrote:
Who is gonna step it up? How many have taken time to help? Our cause is a noble one, scumhunting... ahhh how i love it... but it's only noble if people will do something. I really need people to claim. Scum would be helped by that, though, so it's probably a bad idea. One could think of alternative ways to claim if they were smart, though. Using their brain. Right? Couldn't one just ... i don't know. One could softclaim. Perhaps that's bad, though, as mafia would target them.

if someone was a cop though they would find it beneficial to let me know... it's just hard to do so where we can't pm... yeah im gonna stop rambling now

On May 04 2010 07:20 Bill Murray wrote:
yo guys if youre town and have a role i believe you should be posting to help me out here

On May 04 2010 10:20 d3_crescentia wrote:
I'll be around for the next 30 some hours, Bill. What do you need?

On May 05 2010 05:04 Qatol wrote:

And I am not worried about bulletproof at all. Why does the town care? We kill during the day. When bulletproof doesn't do anything.

On May 05 2010 05:13 Zona wrote:
Bill Murray - I don't know what you're planning to do tonight - but you may want to consider citi.zen's suggestion that you put together alignment-only DT kits. I'm not sure what you were planning to do with a cell phone but it doesn't seem like it would be a tool that would confirm either you or whoever you gave it to, nor do I see how it would find scum. If your plan bears fruit on day 4 - keep in mind you might not survive that long, and perhaps by the time we get to that day the town is already in a desperate situation.

Please take what I say as a suggestion, and don't automatically think that someone is scummy because they don't agree with your plan. Perhaps sometimes town members can genuinely fail to see how your plan will lead them to victory, and perhaps they think that the plan they suggest offers a better chance of success.

"But you know what? If town members lie about their roles - that's good, too. This is the ONLY aspect in which I think it's good for town members to lie - every other type of lie by town members usually muddles the picture and is detrimental to the town, but lying about your role - the thing that mafia doesn't know and wants to know - that's useful for the town.

You are trying to pin down which of the people at Qatol's position in the draft order and above is lying about their role - but identifying liars (about roles) does NOT identify mafia! I reiterate - if you catch someone lying about almost everything else in the game, that might be a sign of mafia - but lying about your role is one thing town members likely SHOULD DO! I wish that a lot of the "vanilla" claims that have come out really are lies! But I have a bad feeling they aren't, due to the way things have played out.

On May 04 2010 07:15 Bill Murray wrote:
Who is gonna step it up? How many have taken time to help? Our cause is a noble one, scumhunting... ahhh how i love it... but it's only noble if people will do something. I really need people to claim. Scum would be helped by that, though, so it's probably a bad idea. One could think of alternative ways to claim if they were smart, though. Using their brain. Right? Couldn't one just ... i don't know. One could softclaim. Perhaps that's bad, though, as mafia would target them.

if someone was a cop though they would find it beneficial to let me know... it's just hard to do so where we can't pm... yeah im gonna stop rambling now

On May 05 2010 03:16 Qatol wrote:
I'll probably spend a few hours writing a post

Now this should presumably clear group #4.

On May 06 2010 06:14 Qatol wrote:

Wait, question: If you were planning on making your invention work like this, why were you calling for the medic to protect you? You have already provided a huge disincentive for targeting you. Shouldn't the medic try to block a hit on someone else?