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On May 01 2010 06:20 Ace wrote: Numbers are due in 1 hour and 40 minutes. If you don't submit numbers I will use a RNG to generate 2 numbers for you. I don't want my especially-picked numbers to be outed because some punk got lucky when he didn't send his in! Just send em to the back of the line!
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I really was going to do that too, but I didn't want to deal with the tears.
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You're breaking *my* heart Ace. T_T
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By the way if no replacement is found for L I'll just remove him from the draft list and game.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On April 30 2010 15:11 Ace wrote: god damnit lol. Erm anyone wanna replace him? I can ask around for somebody. I'd replace him myself but I don't have time to play for the next few weeks.
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I forgot I like shaved off 4 hours from the original start time last night, so you've got 4 more hours to send in #s. As soon as it hits 11PM ET (12:00 KST) I'll reveal the draft order.
After that you have until tomorrow night @ 11:00 PM ET/12:00 KST to pick your choices.
Lastly I realized I needed one more day killing role and will add it in now to the OP.
#Edit: I realized I forgot to add Pardoner the first time, it's there now.
##Edit: The questions section has been updated and all the Role PMs have victory conditions stated in the OP.
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Oh what's the deal if a Rolecop checks out the GF? Do they get to pick what they show up as?
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On May 01 2010 08:19 d3_crescentia wrote: Oh what's the deal if a Rolecop checks out the GF? Do they get to pick what they show up as?
Nope. Rolecop if checking the GF will get "Godfather" as a result.
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
PMed about 10 people for you, hopefully you'll get a reply.
Oooh and Qatol is playing. Qatolllllllll~
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ooooooooo mod font, mod font, mod font!!!
bet someone thought this had relevant game info before they started reading.
HA.
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We all know you're just an attention whore, Vers
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FREEAGLELAND26780 Posts
On May 01 2010 09:14 Versatile wrote: ooooooooo mod font, mod font, mod font!!!
bet someone thought this had relevant game info before they started reading.
HA.
I think the series of Os tipped me off
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Draft Order Results
- Bill Murray
- L (or replacement when he/she gets access)
- Foolishness
- Korynne
- Falcynn
- [NyC]HoBbes
- ~Opz~
- d3_crescentia
- Caller
- sidesprang
- Qatol
- JeeJee
- DarthThienAn
- johnnyspazz
- Amnesia
- Radfield
- Scamp
- Zona
- citi.zen
This should be correct but I'll double check it anyway. Remember you can start picking roles now via PRIVATE MESSAGE to me. you have until 11:00PM ET/12:00 KST (roughly 24 hours from now) to pick. Good luck.
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Damnit. Who picked the same number as me?
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On May 01 2010 09:29 d3_crescentia wrote:We all know you're just an attention whore, Vers ![](/mirror/smilies/puh2.gif)
holy shit batman. you sure you wanna mess with the co-mod? ^_^
now lemme actually go help ace. peace!
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One more update - for the Inventor role. When the Inventor invents something, in the Day post I will let you know what was invented but not who it was given to.
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Update in the OP to make it clearer on #s:
*note: In the case of ties it doesn't matter how many people picked the same #. If 3 people picked [3][*] and 2 people picked [7][*] where * is any arbitrary number 3s go before 7s. The order isn't reset AGAIN per tie.
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Okay, fun time. I've been doing some thinking about the game setup and have some thoughts for the town going forward:
The first major item of note is this: + Show Spoiler [Vanilla Scum] +
You are Vanilla Scum!
The ability to kill 1 player per night belongs to you. One of you must PM me a kill for the night even though all 4 of you participate in the kill.
Remember you can coordinate your # picks during the draft phase. The Mafia team this round consists of: Jack, Jill, this bottle and my ecstasy pills!
You win when you outnumber the town, or there is no way for them to stop you from outnumbering them.
This tells us 2 things: 1. The mafia only have 1 KP in a game with 19 players. They also only have 4 members. Why is this important? With all the rolecheck abilities out there, the mafia are unlikely to stand much of a chance unless they get some very powerful roles.
2. The mafia team knew who each other were during the draft phase and were allowed to communicate with each other during said phase. Assuming they talked to each other at all, they did not overlap with each other.
These 2 points lead us to a pretty simple conclusion: The mafia made sure they have very low numbers and their numbers were probably consecutive in order to guarantee that they would wind up with powerful role choices. I wouldn't be surprised if they did something like: [3] [1] [4] [1] [5] [1] [6] [1] in order to avoid overlapping with the town as much as possible while still keeping near the top. I think it is unlikely that they bid a [1] [1] or even a [2] [1] just because they were worried the town would also bid those numbers. Bill Murray already claimed he bid [1] [1]. I wouldn't be surprised if this was actually the case. I think L probably bid [2] [1] hoping that people would stack on 1. The people I'm looking at right now are these people in particular: 3. Foolishness 4. Korynne 5. Falcynn I strongly believe that 1 or 2 of them are mafia. They are also likely to go for the roles the mafia will rely upon for the game. Remember that aside from the Copy Cat (which would be a risky role for the mafia to take), if the mafia want a role that gives them additional KP, they are likely to take it with these picks. I'm specifically thinking that the mafia here will be targeting Jack of All Trades, Day Vigilante, and Vengeful Player. Keep these 3 players in mind for later.
I also propose that people announce something: whether or not you moved down and what you bid. Why would you do that and why would it matter? Because it gives us an idea of what range people bid in. Remember, we want to piece together who bid what because the mafia did not stack numbers on top of each other. I realize that the mafia can lie about this, but it really doesn't matter. If they lie about their bidding numbers, then the town has an opportunity to catch them in a lie based on who else bid that number. If someone moved down, they are placed in a group with the people around them. When you find a mafia in that group, it increases the level of trust with the people around you.
With this in mind, I would like to announce that I moved down. I bid [6] [1] thinking that the mafia might try for consecutive numbers starting between 2 and 4. That would mean that they would end between 6 and 8. I'm almost positive I overlapped with one of the mafia. This means that we should also be looking very hard at: 10. sidesprang 12. JeeJee
I confirmed with Ace that this situation: A - [3] [1] B - [3] [1] C - [5] [1] D - [5] [2] will result in: A and B are ordered randomly, C, D. The second tie does not move you down a second time. This means that anyone who moved down yet is still above me bid at least a 6. Everyone below me moved down AND bid at most a 6. If you bid between 3 and 5 and moved down, it is especially important that you speak up.
Why am I coming forward with this information right now and not after roles are selected? Because I want the town to deny the mafia the most powerful roles or at the very least control their use. We can't stop the mafia from taking roles to increase their KP, but we can still control who gets what role and try to keep the mafia away from the 3 most important ones: Inventor, Compulsive Vigilante, and Role Blocker. Why are these roles especially important? The first 2 provide the mafia with kill power EVERY NIGHT. The third one allows the mafia flexibility to get around this plan. Therefore, I want Bill Murray to take Inventor and L's replacement to take Compulsive Vigilante. Foolishness will take Roleblocker.
Bill Murray, you will be making meth bombs (if Ace allows it) or at least bulletproof vests for people every night. The day post will confirm that you followed these directions. This way you cannot give the mafia additional kill power.
L's replacement, the town will be directing your shots. We will vote during the day on your hit.
Foolishness, you will not be roleblocking anyone. If anyone claims to be roleblocked, we will immediately lynch you. Roleblocks are much stronger for the mafia than they are for the town. I would just as soon nobody get them.
tl;dr: Look hard at these 5: 3. Foolishness 4. Korynne 5. Falcynn 10. sidesprang 12. JeeJee
Claim your numbers. Revealing this information does not hurt the town but does hurt the mafia.
Bill Murray, L's replacement, Foolishness: you have additional instructions. Read them.
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I bid [12][3] thinking most people would pick in the top 10. Apparently a bad idea.
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