Pick Your Power Mafia! - Page 34

On May 06 2010 15:50 Bill Murray wrote:
good game guys. i was going to not invent anything as if i was a mafia i'd obviously invent something and give it to the mafia. by way of not inventing anything, i was proving to you all i was innocent.


i hope you all win.

On May 06 2010 14:14 citi.zen wrote:

Good one. So, in your own words - did you ever raise the objection that JeeJee's suggested invention was not permitted?

On May 06 2010 16:35 Korynne wrote:
I don't follow BM's logic with his last post. XD In any case I've been reading, I just haven't posted because I don't really have anything to say...

We now have 12 people left, 3 mafia.

Now that BM is gone I'm concerned that no one will stand up to Qatol in case he is mafia. But other than that I think town is better off without the distraction of what to invent and whether BM is pro town.

I know this is a very fluffy post but like I said not much I have to say... Just letting you know I'm still around.

On May 06 2010 19:09 Radfield wrote:
I have been shot at and saved by the medic. Good work medic.

Likely scenario:Foolishness kills Jspazz, Mafia shoot at me, SK kills Bill Murray.

If you think about it, BM was a bigger threat to the SK then anyone else in the game. Considering that the only way the SK can get found is either the tracker or BM's inventions.



Wow, the likelihood of us lynching you for this move was decently high... oh well

On May 06 2010 19:44 Radfield wrote:
Forgot to mention, she also made some strange contradictory comments about role checking and alignment checking. It really jumped out at the time. She claimed Vanilla, and then suggested that we rolecheck her? If you were a Vanilla mafia a great way to clear some suspicious off of oneself would be to get rolechecked. It tells nothing about alignment, but makes you at worst a powerless mafia.


Also, a big note to the Serial Killer. You need to be playing on the town side. With a 8:3:1 ratio, things are definitely in favor of the mafia, considering we don't have any great leads. I propose we vote on the Serial Killer hit tonight in addition to our CompVig hit. Presumably it is in the best interests of the SK and he/she may follow along.

If the SK doesn't follow along, it doesn't hurt us anyways. Thoughts?



People who strike me as possible Mafia: One of JeeJee or Hobbes(where are you?) , Scamp, DarthTheinAn

I'd like to hear all of your thoughts on lynching and CompVig hitting.

People who strike me as Not-Mafia: Citizen, Qatol, Falcynn, maybe Zona
(I don't like innocent lists[check out incognito last game], and can explain all of the people on this list if need be)

On May 06 2010 19:09 Radfield wrote:
I have been shot at and saved by the medic. Good work medic.

Likely scenario:Foolishness kills Jspazz, Mafia shoot at me, SK kills Bill Murray.

If you think about it, BM was a bigger threat to the SK then anyone else in the game. Considering that the only way the SK can get found is either the tracker or BM's inventions.

Wow, the likelihood of us lynching you for this move was decently high... oh well

On May 06 2010 23:06 citi.zen wrote:
For some reason I don't have the "show all posts" option anymore in the thread - does anyone know how I can get it back?

On May 06 2010 22:35 citi.zen wrote:

Interesting claim that you got hit and were protected. There is only one medic in the game (at most). They could be red I suppose, but if they aren't, this would be a very hard claim to fake since someone would know you are lying. So this moves the needle a bit more towards your innocence in my mind. And it certainly means you are NOT the SK - which is nice to know.

As far as BM - yes, I think he was a threat to the SK, in particular if he made some invention along the lines of what we suggested. It would provide a 3rd person with a way to find the SK and also kill them (assuming Ace allowed it to work like that).

Speaking of finding people - would a townie ever take the godfather role? That and the role-blocker are much stronger in mafia hands.


Yup, Bill changed his style, but isn't a better player unfortunately. In particular, when he is town he continues to be a big time liability. If he made no invention, I was going to vote for him 100%, which would be a wasted day. Given he was going to not make anything, it's actually a good thing the reds chose to kill him instead of someone else.

On May 06 2010 19:25 Radfield wrote:
OK, lets look at some potential suspects. Foolishness certainly gets a pass for now, no reason to worry about him as long as he keeps shooting properly. But, I think it likely the mafia would have had someone put down 1 as there number, so....

Korynne: A lot of theorycrafting early on, but posting less and less as time goes on, barely contributing at all as far as our lynch suspect or compvig hit. She has continually mentioned that killing her off for info is a good idea. She voted 6th on the Sidesprang lynch with very little analysis. We would gain a bit of info from her death(if she's red then foolishness and citizen are almost certainly green) but not much

Korynne, I'm pointing the FoS at you. I don't have a great case, but I'd like to hear you on the record with who you find scummy and why, and who you think we should lynch/compvig today.


Also, I think it very unlikely that Qatol is mafia. Serial Killer maybe, but that goes for anyone at his point, no matter how pro-town they've been. Qatol basically got sidesprang killed by revealing that he went for copycat and missed. I can't think of any good reason for sidesprang's or qatol's actions if they were mafia buddies.

On May 07 2010 01:01 DarthThienAn wrote:


Well... it doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't the SK. All it means that the medic actually DID protect him, or else he's taking a risk in assuming that there are no medics left in the game so that he won't get called out. However, to me, he's 99% pro-town.


Hobbes and JeeJee seem to know something that no one else knows - either both of them are town, or both of them are mafia? Well... that's not necessarily true, but both of them think the other is of the same alignment at least. 1 could be mafia tricking the other into believe he is innocent using the role that they picked.

As for my "fading out", I've been reading pretty relatively regularly... well not "regularly" but frequently I think. I post when I have something to contribute, or have an idea. Plus, stuff happens. We all have lives =p.



I'm not sure the mafia would've put someone down as 1. I mean, we basically had two or three people claiming they were going 1, 1 early right? I know L said that. It seems silly for them to waste their time doesn't it? The only reason I see them doing it, is they are assuming that only one person would pick 1,1, so they want to deny that person getting first pick.

On May 07 2010 01:09 Qatol wrote:

Okay without Hobbes/JeeJee as mafia and without anyone who picked 1 as mafia, and I'll take out yourself and radfield you are basically saying the mafia are 3 of these 4: Opz, scamp, zona/citizen, and myself. Is that an accurate assessment of the situation to you?

On May 07 2010 01:14 Qatol wrote:

EBWOP: That should be opz/falcynn depending on whether or not you trust opz's #s

On May 07 2010 00:12 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
JeeJee, I'm pretty sure I know what you're talking about. It would be nice if I could PM you to be sure, but I think we're on the same page here. In that case, I'm pretty sure you're also town-aligned

On May 04 2010 22:52 Falcynn wrote:
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On May 04 2010 21:08 Radfield wrote:
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Alright, I guess I should clearly state, I'm a vanilla townie. I decided not to make mention of it since . Was preparing for/doing this on Friday/Saturday http://www.filmracing.com/Cities/sanfrancisco.htm and missed the role claims because of it. I'll make a blog of it Thursday night/Friday since we're not allowed to upload our video until after the screening (yeah, this is really more to just get attention for my future blog post then to actually explain myself )

Anyways, as for lynching sidesprang, you're logic seems pretty sound, I guess at this point with all the information that's been gathered, it'd be nice to make sure whether or not everyone at the top of the list has been telling the truth about their roles. If we can get a day vig hit then that might help, although I'm not sure if we'd be able to figure out another lynch target and pile the votes on them in time. It'd suck to essentially waste a day vig hit by not getting the lynch to add to it =/


On May 04 2010 22:52 Falcynn wrote:
oh right
##vote sidesprang ##

Who do you think is the strongest candidate for mafia on that list? Cases have been made against JeeJee and Scamp so far. Out of the other players, both Darth and Korynne started out strong, but have really faded due to recent inactivity (which is actually a pretty strong scum tell usually). I don't believe Hobbes was super active at any point in the game? What do you think about OpZ?

On May 07 2010 01:23 Radfield wrote:



Well, as far as I'm concerned this takes both Hobbes and JeeJee off the short list. They might both be mafia together, but in that case one will lead us to the other.



Qatol, I was re-reading those posts I put up this morning, and I was a little bit confused as to why I put Citizen on that non-mafia list as well. The reason is this though, pretty much everyone on my suspicious list has called out citizen as potential mafia. Citizen style this game also just seems so obviously scummy, (right down to the pointless arguing with you, when you are very obviously in my eyes non-mafia) that I'm inclined to think him a townie. If pressed I would take him off the non-mafia list, but I don't think him all that likely to be scummy.

As far as Falcynn, my sole reasoning is that he immediately agreed with my origional post about sidesprang, and the way he worded everything strikes me as town. No one else had agreed with me about Sidesprang yet, and yet he was still the first one aboard. I think a mafia would have been slightly less ok with it.

The post I'm referring to:




Korynne: I completely understand what you're saying about possibly being burnt out etc. However, I think you're a very clever player. You played your first game as a very active townie, you played your second game as a very active mafia, and being very convincing at that. I'm inclined to think that if you got mafia again in this game, you might play it exactly the way you are. Fake being tired of Mafia as an excuse to post less. Unfortunately for all of us, there's little you can do at this point to remove suspicion from yourself. Anyways, I'm genuinely hoping you're mafia, and that you're burnt out routine is an act, because you seem like a good player to have around.




Korynne is a good target, because I think despite her alignment, she told the truth about being Vanilla. So worst case scenario we kill a vanilla townie who isn't that upset about being killed anyways, but gives us a lead to Foolishness maybe. Best case we get a vanilla mafia.

JeeJee and Hobbes should get a pass for today, but if a bunch of other targets turn up innocent, we might have to hit them both. At some point the information they are sharing needs to be made public. If we don't hit a mafia with our lynch or comphit hit today, and the SK hits another townie, we'll need as much info as we can get. If we had to lynch one of them, I'd go with JeeJee

I stand by what I said earlier about Scamp, but if we decide to lynch him and he is the medic, then he needs to roleclaim. If no one contradicts him, then we call off the lynch. Keep in mind, the medic is basically a confirmed townie, and pretty much a confirmed non-SK. I can't see why the SK would take medic as a role, though perhaps to deny it from the town, perhaps because it gives him/her a convenient cover.


~opz~: I think Opz threw me off his trail by his vehement defense when I called him out. He just seemed outraged that I was wasting time by putting him on any suspect lists. What made me suspect him was how he tried to sidetrack my Sidesprang argument, but looking at it now makes me think it was just a knee-jerk reaction of seeing his name on a suspect list. I also buy his story of trying for CompVig and failing. Likely Vanilla either way. Personally his posting makes me think he's town. I put him as a second string lynch target for now.


DarthTheinAn seems suspect. He made a case against ~opz~ early on. Votes for Jspazz over JeeJee for the CV hit. Try's to give Scamp a pass for being TOO mafia. None of these things necessarily make him a mafia. But his posting in general smacks of mafia to me, I recommend everyone look through his posting. Points out lots of obvious stuff, steers the convo away from certain people, lots of theorycrafting early on, not much talk about voting later on. Darth seems mafia, and seems like he might lead us to other mafia.

I vote we lynch DarthTheinAn, If he flops red, then I propose we Compvig Scamp, and ask the SK to hit JeeJee

##Vote DarthTheinAn##


I haven't really talked about Zona, but I really don't have much to say about him. He seems fairly legit and is likely working hard on the zbot....

I didn't proofread as I've run out of time and steam. If there's anything I said that doesn't make sense please point it out.