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And wow at brownbear, I thought I would not change my mind on Korynne but I have to admit that post is persuasive.
This seems like potentially a last ditch attempt by RoL and Brown to have you lynched (i have alrdy voted for you so they might have hoped I would change back to you)
Actually this is a moot point and doesn't need analysis, tomorrow if RoL flips red then brownbear is obviously red too, fingers crossed we got this one right as thankfully now we will not need to bother trying to determine who out of Brown and Kor is mafia.
If Brown is town then he knows right now that RoL is red, the possibility of brown being green and not voting for him is 0% so I hope to god we were right on RoL...
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The game is now essentially over, voting majority for RoL has been reached, either mafia have just won or we have a guaranteed win so mafia just come out with it I really want to know ^^
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Meh. I mean, I am green, I am also just convinced Korynne is mafia, and I have yet to see conclusive evidence on RoL besides "well, he's inactive, so..."
But I guess at this point it's up to fate. I mean, if you want to convince me of RoL's redness, feel free. I feel like you're using your confirmed green-ness as both a shield and a weapon here, but trolling the pages since the last lynch, there is not one shred of evidence in my mind that RoL is red, and there is significant evidence that Korynne is. So, I'm voting with what I can see. I do look forward to your reasoning why RoL is mafia.
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Also, you never PMed me back. I feel so alone and abandoned... 
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Man, as bad as I feel for turning this game into a crapshoot for the town, I can't help but say I take some sort of guilty pleasure in watching the tension and high drama as it all unfolds.
WE'LL SEE WHAT HAPPENS YO~
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brown please understand this simple concept.
Two of either you, Korynne and RoL are mafia. This is an established fact
If you are town then you know who the other two mafia are, "I have yet to see conclusive evidence on RoL besides "well, he's inactive, so..." This is meaningless, you need no evidence you KNOW they are mafia.
Unfortunately I have overlooked what I hope would be an unlikely possibility, that you have failed to grasp that me and Hobbes are in fact confirmed, failed to grasp that you KNOW who the two mafia are and as such also failed to grasp that voting for RoL there is obligatory. I hope this is not the case as it really would be an extraordinarily unintelligent position to be in but thankfully it is also very unlikely.
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On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote:
The way I see it, I am town. This means that out of the 4 of you, 2 are scum, and there are three possible options:
1: (The most likely option IMO) XeliN and Korynne are telling the truth, and d3's rolechecks are legit. If this is the case, then RoL and Korynne are both mafia, in which case, we will win.
Oh, you're so sure we will win? Because you're mafia and no one's pointing fingers at you?
On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote:
2: (The least likely option) XeliN is lying, and he and hobbes are in fact the mafia. Korynne jumped on the bandwagon of saying "yeah, those are d3's rolechecks" to appear pro-town, but is inadvertently screwing us over. I don't think Korynne would do that, so I'm going to say this is 99% not true.
Yeah, that would be retarded of me. Next.
On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote:
3: (Not as likely as option 1, but something to think about) XeliN and Korynne, the two who came out and said "Hey guys look d3's rolechecks" are actually the mafia. XeliN says that he and hobbes are town, which means hobbes (who is actually town) doesn't suspect him, due to the "evidence". All Korynne has to do is survive one day of suspicion, and the mafia have won.
Uh, d3 told us he checked XeliN night 2 and he turned out innocent. Hello? Were you reading? I'm pretty sure d3 would've informed Hobbes of that (he told me and XeliN at least, no reason he wouldn't have PM'd Hobbes).
On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote:
This is something some people haven't noticed yet: It's 3 town to 2 mafia. Unless we lynch mafia today, the game is over, because the lynch and nightkill will make it 2 mafia to 1 town. Now, let's look at my 3 possible scenarios. I'm going to discount 2, because that happening would be crazy mad fucked-up, so that leaves 1 and 3. Thus, here are the options:
Uh, yeah, we know that. Thanks for pointing out the obvious and not actually saying anything useful.
On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote:
1: Mafia are RoL and Korynne
3: Mafia are XeliN and Korynne
At this point in the game, the mafia can afford to play a little more fast and loose with their teamwork. I think it's entirely possible that one would vote for the other, and if a bandwagon starts and they get lynched, then hey, the other mafia looks extremely pro-town, and he's got a pretty good chance of living.
I'm not saying me voting for RoL is pro-town. Unlike you guys, I don't go by the OMG I'M TOWN IMMA PM YOU or OMG IMMA JUMP ON ROL SO I LOOK INNOCENT. I wouldn't read into my vote for RoL, it basically means nothing. I had to do it nomatter whether I'm mafia or town. Things that don't change when you are mafia or town are stupid are not necessary to analyze. Oh and I'm a she, so clearly I'm not the other mafia. xP
On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote:
Now, the question is this. Which of the three to lynch?
RoL:
Pros: He seems to be the most scummy of the three, hobbes thinks he's scum (and I'm sure at this point hobbes is town), Korynne has a good point page 12 that he's inactive as shit
Cons: He's only mafia in one of these scenarios, if we fuck up we are screwed.
Right, one of these scenerios, as in the one Hobbes and XeliN /know/ is true and you're off the hook. None of these scenerios include you, thanks for doing a full analysis.
On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote:
Korynne:
Pros: She is mafia in both of the situations I think are most likely, she's provided some wonderful, insightful analysis on a bunch of townies that ended up getting them lynched.
Cons: She's active, she's a good player.
Uh, I just said Abenson seems to be distracting town. Do you not read? I've been advocating for XeliN's lynch all game. The only time it stopped is after I talked to d3 and he checked out XeliN to be town. How is that me getting people lynched? My power went out during Abenson's lynch and I would've definitely pulled my vote because we still had plenty of time to talk (even if we didn't switch targets) and gather more information, I've been on XeliN's case all of day 2 about that. Sure I could /fake/ a power outage on night 1 but seriously there are better things to do with my life.
d3 made a townie circle and I trusted him, so when Hobbes PM'd me and said they were switching over to Johnny I agreed, because I thought XeliN, BrownBear and Johnny all looked suspicious and I told them I would be okay with lynching any of the 3. Given that Johnny is one of the three, and they were going to switch over to Johnny, I clearly would prefer a lynch of one of my suspects than for no lynch to happen because of me.
On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote:
XeliN
Pros: He could be a very very very sneaky mafia? If he is, he's honestly played the most undercover mafia I've ever seen in any game, both on and offline.
Cons: Probably the least likely to be mafia out of the above 3, we can't afford to fuck this up.
Uh, really? I thought he looked ridiculously scummy. The only reason he is not scummy is because me and Hobbes (presumably) both heard from d3, confirmed detective, that XeliN is not mafia. So I don't know how that would make him a sneaky mafia. If XeliN was mafia then he would be lynched today from d3's information last night... Like, no, XeliN is not mafia. Stop trying to put attention on anyone other than the two of us now.
On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote:So from my analysis, as tempting as it might be to just vote RebirthofLegend for being inactive, we don't have the luxury of just voting inactives off the island anymore: we need a mafia. And sadly, if my analysis is correct, in either case Korynne's gonna flip red. Sorry, bro (ladies is bros too  )
Well of course in all your analysis I'm red, you never consider the fact that you could be mafia. I could do the same analysis in 2 lines:
d3 confirmed Hobbes and XeliN to me, he turned out detective.
There's 5 of us left, so BrownBear and RoL are mafia. Done. See, wasn't that simple?
On May 01 2010 13:27 BrownBear wrote:Also, it was cute how you went from, in page 12, being like "Oh, BrownBear's active, we shouldn't lynch him first" to, on this page, being "HEY GUYS BROWNBEARS INACTIVE AS SHIT WHAT THE HELL MAN" the instant the FoS got pointed on you. VOTE: KORYNNE
Did you not understand what I said? BrownBear is active, as in BrownBear is active compared to RoL.
BrownBear is inactive, as in if you were town you would vote for me immediately. Rather than waiting for RoL to hammer me because Hobbes hasn't voted yet.
Let's see... you're all inactive and then suddenly you magically appear to PM XeliN and Hobbes. Then you're all inactive again... and then magically appear after we're done lynching RoL to accuse me, the only other person that could be mafia. Yeah, I'd say that has signs of lurking and inactivity compared to me.
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Well, if you read my post, you'd understand. I mean, I feel that we have the confirmed RoL mafia, thus we should lynch the active, persuasive one, rather than the one who's just chillin' mostly inactive.
I'm sticking to my guns, for what it's worth. Swapping my vote now to try and convince you of my innocence would be pointless, and it's better to go down swinging for the fences. If RoL flips mafia, i'll vote Korynne tomorrow again. It'll basically be down to me and her trying to convince either you or Hobbes that the other is mafia, as I'm obviously not going to die tonight unless someone pulls a really really bonehead move. If RoL flips town, then we lose.
I'll be awaiting the results.
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Brownbear if you are town please reread my posts as many times as it takes in order to sink in.
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d3 all is not in vain. I bet I would've gotten XeliN lynched tomorrow if you rolechecked BrownBear or RoL. xD
So at least now I know who is town/scum. Rather than me and XeliN having to fight each other all tomorrow. xD
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On May 01 2010 13:36 XeliN wrote:
The game is now essentially over, voting majority for RoL has been reached, either mafia have just won or we have a guaranteed win so mafia just come out with it I really want to know ^^
Sorry, am I missing something here XeliN?
We all know RoL is mafia, so we have another day. Either you or Hobbes is going to die tonight (unless BrownBear is going to be retardedx100 and kill me because he's still into his strange theories that you two are not confirmed xD) so tomorrow we are still at 50/50.
So how is that a sure win for us... Not to mention you still seem suspicious of me? I can say we'll have a sure win tomorrow if you lynch BrownBear, but I don't see how you or Hobbes can say you've won if RoL (and he will obviously) turn up to be mafia. xD
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On May 01 2010 13:57 BrownBear wrote:
Well, if you read my post, you'd understand. I mean, I feel that we have the confirmed RoL mafia, thus we should lynch the active, persuasive one, rather than the one who's just chillin' mostly inactive.
I'm sticking to my guns, for what it's worth. Swapping my vote now to try and convince you of my innocence would be pointless, and it's better to go down swinging for the fences. If RoL flips mafia, i'll vote Korynne tomorrow again. It'll basically be down to me and her trying to convince either you or Hobbes that the other is mafia, as I'm obviously not going to die tonight unless someone pulls a really really bonehead move. If RoL flips town, then we lose.
I'll be awaiting the results.
Uh, I proposed we lynch RoL because he is less active than you. So what, I get them to lynch you today and then what do I do tomorrow? Uh well... RoL...right... well he hasn't been around all game... uh... yeah. RoL: Oh look look, I am now magically active and here are 50 reasons why Korynne is mafia! Oh right, and I can't be mafia, I mean what kind of mafia is almost replaced out of a game for being inactive? We all know only vanilla townies do that!
I'd rather take my chances with someone I can analyse and prove to Hobbes and XeliN is mafia than someone who makes no posts and leaves me with nothing to reason with.
If I was mafia, leaving me would be BENEFICIAL to town. I talk a lot, you can analyze me and if you say anything I will respond. As town or mafia I see no reason for you not to leave me instead of RoL. Oh wait, but you're mafia, so you're scared I can prove to XeliN and Hobbes that you are mafia. You'd rather take your chances with someone that doesn't talk.
Uh, if RoL flips mafia? I'm pretty sure that's a given. Right, I'll vote BrownBear tomorrow and you'll vote Korynne tomorrow. Anything else obvious you would like to point out to make yourself seem like you're contributing?
Oh by the way, if RoL flips town, you win (or rather, we win), because you're mafia. xP But you know he won't flip town, so whatever. =P
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If I could 100% assume that brown could not possibily misinterpret the situation and yet be a town player at the same time, then my post of "this game is essentially over" would be correct
Unfortunately it seems like something that has to be considered as a possibility.
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God Xelin whichever one of us is alive tomorrow is gonna feel so unbelievably stupid if we guess wrong
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Oh damn I forgot one of us is going to die, Hobbes if you are the one left alive my choice would be Korynne, brownbear being capable of completely misunderstanding the situation seems logical, he also did something rlly idiotic in the other game but I can't remember what, and also it makes no sense that he would argue in that was as mafia (as it is just so plain far fetched in many ways).
So yeah my choice would be Korynne and I would say that is by a large majority in my mind, but if you are left alive come to your own conclusion.
For you now who is most likely?
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On May 01 2010 14:21 XeliN wrote:
Oh damn I forgot one of us is going to die, Hobbes if you are the one left alive my choice would be Korynne, brownbear being capable of completely misunderstanding the situation seems logical, he also did something rlly idiotic in the other game but I can't remember what, and also it makes no sense that he would argue in that was as mafia (as it is just so plain far fetched in many ways).
So yeah my choice would be Korynne and I would say that is by a large majority in my mind, but if you are left alive come to your own conclusion.
For you now who is most likely?
Psst, check your PM, brah
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Hey, I was 100% sure you were scum XeliN until d3 confirmed you, so what do you know. xD
(I still blame that on you and not me. =P)
I mean, if I was mafia, and of course RoL would be my mafia buddy, then from his PM with you + whatever information I have it is clear that we should nightkill BrownBear, and then with you we can get d3 lynched ezpz.
So given that I'm not retarded, I can't see how BrownBear can talk himself out of this situation. He seems to be the only one who believes he could've tried to convince people that XeliN and Hobbes were not 100% confirmed town after d3 flipped.
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Also, the idiotic thing I did in the other game was not read the rules, then proceed to break them, flagrantly, leading to me getting modkilled + the town being so disorganized that no lynch happened.
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Ignore my post above plz, not entirely but take it with a huge grain of salt (talking to hobbes), ill post again in a bit.
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