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On April 29 2010 06:46 Korynne wrote:
XeliN, I saw that you fail-removed your vote. But that's when you said you were going to be busy for the next 10 hours, it wasn't related to you warning the town not to immediately jump onto d3.
I never said your reasons for voting d3 was a problem, I'm just saying that revealing some info, if d3 turns out to be not mafia, is bad for town.
Hobbes, why do you post so little? Dx (nothing wrong with the content of your posts, just so little of em...)
So now we need to hear from RoL... =\
I post so little because I'm a student and a musician who plays gigs on a pretty regular basis, meaning I have very little time. I try to make as many insightful posts as I can, but I'm always pretty insanely busy. I've only had the opportunity to post today because I'm home sick.
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With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch.
L-1: 3 votes for brownbear (johnnyspazz, d3_crescentia, [NyC]Hobbes)
L-2: 2 votes for d3_crescentia (XeliN, BrownBear)
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On April 29 2010 02:12 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
Otherwise, however, my suspicions lie with Johnny. Abenson's mislynch has given you a perfect opportunity to incessantly paint everyone in the game red pretty credibly. You've taken this and run with it in a big way, and your play in general suggest to me mafia in the style of DrH from Incognito's game, in which the mafia takes control of the thread, becoming the most frequent poster and "leading" the town. I don't know about you, it's mainly a feeling, so my vote is with Brownbear for now. Still, I want to make it clear that at least one person is extremely wary of you
hrm i would agree if you if the people i voted for kept flipping green but thanks for the heads up
LETS LYNCH BROWNBEAR ALREADY!
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Ok I have decided I'm going to be voting: Johnnyspazz
My vote on Cresentia was a reactionary response to the mafia like PM's and also that he seems to be playing so differently this game than the others I have been with him in, given that to my knowledge he has been town in all of those something seemed off however, he has explained somewhat the PM interactions and there was alot of room for misinterpretation so I shouldn't overstate that, his different manner is still worrying to me but not enough for a vote as of now.
Johnny on the other hand has continuously, almost from the moment the first lynch was decided, attempted to cast suspicion far and wide and without much credible analysis. His posts seem so scumlike to me as this is EXACTLY the type of thing that benefits mafia yet does not benefit town and so I'm voting him.
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And Kor, I removed my vote and said I was going to be away for some time, but think through this, clearly it means I do not want anyone to be lynched in the time that I am away, whilst not explicitly stating "i removed my vote to avoid a quick lynch" that was the intent, there doesn't seem another explanation although I haven't tried to think up a possible one.
As to the PM's I see a little more clearly now. I thought you were opposed to it as you believed I wanted to stop you posting analysis on me to everyone and just keep it private so people don't get to see. This baffled me a little as I've tried to make it clear I want people to analyse as long as it is justified and I will always respond to it. But you said it's because you suspected I might do so in order to get tips on how to come across less mafialike (this assuming I am mafia) and in that case it does make sense although I would say it's a little far-fetched but certainly plausible.
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Also I should mention i would change my vote if it would mean lynching RoL, unless he posts ofc, but even then there needs some serious explanation as to why he has done absolutely nothing this game. I would think he is close to being modkilled currently, especially given how small this game is.
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BM, when is day over? I will vote for BrownBear if the day is going to end. But definitely want to hear from RoL.
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I think XeliN, BrownBear and Johnny are probably most suspicious looking atm.
So I'm okay with lynching any of the 3. So I'll wait until the end of the day and vote.
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With 7 alive, it is 4 to lynch.
L-1: 3 votes for brownbear (johnnyspazz, d3_crescentia, [NyC]Hobbes)
L-3: 1 vote for d3_crescentia (BrownBear)
L-3: 1 vote for johnnyspazz (XeliN)
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On April 29 2010 08:46 Korynne wrote:
BM, when is day over? I will vote for BrownBear if the day is going to end. But definitely want to hear from RoL.
whenever it's 3am EST... I believe 4pm KST.. not sure though.
it's in like six and a half hours i believe.
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actually, the day could end early if someone is majority lynched.
if the vote is tied, i will wait on another vote to be added to or taken off one of the players. if this does not occur in around a quarter of a day i will end the day with a no lynch.
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no rush, though, you all have over 6 hours
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Bill I love that you manage to post 4 times in a row even in your own games
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Bill will RoL be lynched if he does note vote//post before the next night?
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Also we cannot let this day go by without someone getting lynched, simply someone has to a no lynch is advantageous to the mafia.
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XeliN, I said I would lynch BrownBear if the time comes. I just want to wait to see if RoL will show up.
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BrownBear doesn't seem mafia and im suprised so many of you think so, but looks like he's getting the chop...
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Well XeliN I thought you were mafia and nobody else seems to want to vote for you, so what do you know. xD
Uh Bill, would it be possible to vote at 2am? >.< I have to go to bed, so since noone's really talking and RoL is nowhere to be found, I think I will just turn in for the night.
So uh, at 3PM KST,
Vote BrownBear
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I want to deliberate for a moment before Brownbear is killed, therefore, I switch my vote to Abstain for the moment
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This is actually giving me a terrible headache, trying to figure out what the hell is going on. But, here we go:
Johnny, I think you're scum. In fact, I know you're scum. Why do I think this, and how do I know this? Let's start here:
On April 28 2010 11:19 johnnyspazz wrote:
no i wouldn't call myself an obvious green but i would say i'm trying to be pro-town
in my mind abenson was an obvious green and thats why i didn't vote for him. his posts weren't particularly scummy to me. your vote while partially justified also confuses me because all abenson did was bring up an underlying point in all mafia games.
A post that seems fairly innocent enough, though it's beyond me why anyone would call Abenson an 'obvious green.'
Let's move onto here:
On April 28 2010 15:22 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2010 14:59 XeliN wrote: Xelin's the one that's actually claimed that said he doesn't have a night action No, I, Did, Not. so xelin, why are you making such a big deal over something that's so trivial? d3 thought you had a night action and if you were green, you would just say, "i have no night action" and that would be the end of it. if you were blue, you would still stand by the same statement. now if you were scum, i'm guessing you would also do the same. however, you aren't doing this and it's quite puzzling to me. what harm could possibly come from claiming you have no night action? Show nested quote +On April 28 2010 14:59 XeliN wrote:
However, I agree with you that browns analysis does seem really lacking, but from what I know of you, you would highlight this, explain how how he is wrong in his reasoning and possibly place FoS because of it. Not jump to "Oh i had better lynch BrownBear now".. you really are acting unusually to me and it's making my thoughts that you are mafia all the stronger. umm... did you read her post? d3 didn't just say, "brownbear, your analysis sucks." she poked many holes in brownbear's defense and specified exactly what was "wrong" with it. is this a pathetic attempt at trying to get the suspicion off your scum teammate? Show nested quote +On April 28 2010 13:51 BrownBear wrote:
I liked the LaL policy at first, but then I thought about it seriously, and yeah, it's pretty dumb. LaL is only stupid if you use extreme examples to counter it. LaL is how every single mafia game should be played since nine times out of ten, the mafia players are lying. how can anyone say lynching liars is a bad thing? your defense is just plain awful; you make so many bad points. d3 has already pointed some of them out for me. i wouldn't be surprised if both xelin and brownbear are both scum. right now, all of their posts reek of scum. can we lynch these two already?
Why, thank you for such a fervent defense - even though I didn't actually *ask* for one, nor did I expect one coming from you. I actually find it kind of surprising that you would do so, given that Xelin had just caught me in a pretty compromising situation after having asked him about his night action, and considering *I* started the entire interaction between us.
It fascinates me to no end why BrownBear would decide to jump on my bandwagon with such terrible reasoning, but given his track record so far in his games, I'm actually willing to bet that he's town - given that his whole analysis rested on the fact that he misread how the PM interaction went. What intrigues me *more* is that you would push for him so fervently - case in point:
On April 29 2010 07:33 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2010 02:12 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:
Otherwise, however, my suspicions lie with Johnny. Abenson's mislynch has given you a perfect opportunity to incessantly paint everyone in the game red pretty credibly. You've taken this and run with it in a big way, and your play in general suggest to me mafia in the style of DrH from Incognito's game, in which the mafia takes control of the thread, becoming the most frequent poster and "leading" the town. I don't know about you, it's mainly a feeling, so my vote is with Brownbear for now. Still, I want to make it clear that at least one person is extremely wary of you hrm i would agree if you if the people i voted for kept flipping green but thanks for the heads up LETS LYNCH BROWNBEAR ALREADY!
Why, so we can get rid of a townie, have a brief discussion about it, then get one of the town loudmouths killed during the night so suspicion falls back on the people they argued with?
Alright. Last order of business - this curious discussion with Korynne.
On April 28 2010 17:36 johnnyspazz wrote:Show nested quote +What now? If I vote for one of them you're going to accuse me of being scum because I'll be the 3rd or 4th person to vote for them? Seems like I can't win here with you (and I don't intend to, it's a pretty poor accusation). i guess choice of words were too strong. i'm not really saying you are scum at all, just saying in my opinion, not voting in this situation seems like scummy behavior. an actual red could just be lurking and waiting for 3 votes onto a green and then cast the decisive vote and skate by with another mislynch. can you see why i thought not voting looked like scummy behavior? there is a lot of information that one could use to cast a vote. you're right tho, i forgot about your spirit vote on xelin a couple pages back. so i apologize for misinterpreting your actions. i really wasn't accusing you of being scum, only bb and xelin. i hope we're still cool. 
Hey, you know what's a perfectly good way to broadcast your scummitude? Commenting on a situation of what a red would do so that you look all the more innocent for not doing it!
Vote: Johnnyspazz
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