TL Mafia XXII

On April 16 2010 22:09 flamewheel91 wrote:
For all those who joined since last night, I've got you signed up, and I think you're all new players to (TL at least) mafia, so welcome to the game!.

Wow, 33 people. I'll leave sign-ups open until Saturday, Apr 17 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00) (testing the new time/date thing, so it's equivalent to Friday, April 16th at 10:00 p.m. EDT) tonight for any last people who haven't gotten access yet to come and post. After that, I'll be sending out roles sometime tomorrow, and the game will start on Sunday, Apr 18 2:00am GMT (GMT+00:00).

For those of you that don't live in EDT, can you tell me if the time/date shows up in your local time? I want to make perfectly sure so nobody gets confused by the date/time.

Edit: Also, be sure to glance here after signups are done, since then balancing will be done and mafia numbers will be posted.

Do not try to edit other users' messages.

Your ip '68.144.64.160' and user name Fishball have been reported to the administrator.

On April 19 2010 06:11 Foolishness wrote:

...what the hell...

I was going to "nobody cares" that post...but honestly I think voting will do a much better job.

Fishball...where are you...?

On April 19 2010 10:13 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Well it is sure good I didn't get gang raped early for inactivity.

On April 19 2010 15:53 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Fair enough, it just looked like some random bandwagon was starting, looked off.

On April 21 2010 14:15 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Oh wow I forgot about the roleblocker. nobody has claimed to be blocked yet? that's odd.

On April 21 2010 13:30 Incognito wrote:
Since I am going to be absent for the next 1.5 days, I thought I'd just post my thoughts so hopefully you could get a general idea of where to look. Please don't ignore analyzing the guy underneath you though!

(Semi-)active suspicious people:

tree.hugger is against BM's assassin plan but wants to discuss it. Is this because he wants the town to go on the wrong track/get distracted from their real objectives? Tries to derail the thread by continuing to talk about assassins...is he an assassin?? Or just a mafioso using that as an excuse to find something to talk about? Posts other useless information, and lately posts that he agrees with foolishness and me that there is enough information to work off of. He also complains about the vets not helping, but shows no intention of actually helping.
RebirthOfLegenD: Promises reds and results. Fine, its only day 2. But he posted recently and all it was was a *cry* blues have died post. Not the greatest activity there. Planning to do something anytime soon? Responds to assassin discussion. I'm glad BC pointed out to us about how BM's plan produced results. Hopefully I won't over do it on this factor, but if we add up all the factors, it might give us something. Other than that, RoL has been pretty useless.
RaGe: Tries to tell us to random lynch on day 1. I get it now, its not that terrible but not that great. Overall, just tells us nothing in general. He then proceeds to get attacked and has produced nothing useful since. Only defense of himself. Which isn't really pro-town.
Scamp: Talks about assassins. Pops in to say useless stuff. Only one semi-decent post, which just parrots the attacks on TheLardyGooser. Debating whether I should have put him here or lower on the list, but I don't see any redeeming value here yet.
Abenson: Talks about assassins. And that's pretty much it. This should probably be just counted as inactivity, but whatever.
Caller: Rolechecked red, and has been making some pretty loose intuition-based attacks on ppl. No strong solid evidence here, so nothing of redeeming value. I guess the rolecheck does it for me. The only reason I could see for Ace lying like that was if he was mafia. I don't think he's that "L"ish to sabotage his own team, so he's probably telling the truth if town. Since its not exactly the best time to sac a mafia member (a mafia death would mean a KP drop), its highly unlikely that Ace really is mafia in this situation imo.
Falcynn: Useless chatterbox.
nai.Protoss: Posts when accused. Nothing more. Not too high profile but someone to look out for.
madnessman: just barely makes the cut...on the suspicious side. Not too useful, but then again, not too useless either.

Just purely inactive - and therefore should be prodded and abused so they can be useful:
Scaramanga
Fishball
Koryone: New player, but claims newb. Something to look out for if it gets excessive, otherwise this name is just here to make sure he doesn't get overlooked.
JadeFist: Rule breaking + auto-changing vote. Otherwise inactive
Roffles: He says some stuff, but nothing outstandingly pro-town or anti-town.
nbtnbt5
love1another
AcrossFiveJulys
motbob


Suspicious people that have some redeeming quality:
infundibulum: Cool. He defends Caller and Caller if appears red (if Ace isn't BSing us), this is a good sign. Although in response to KF, he actually has posted a few suspects (on the DT list if I recall?). Other than that, medic list + DT list shows at least some commitment to the town. Although it isn't all too pro-town.
BloodyC0bbler: Who is being useless. And is supposedly a good blue sniper? I'm not all too convinced though. He better show up to post or else. Not high on the list, but still someone to look out for. His first post seemed pretty pro-town, but other than that nothing else really pro-town.
Bill Murray: Bill is weird. From his assassin "plan" though, I'd probably look at his followers more closely than him. He's being kinda funky, like always, but he's been accusing more than usual. Usually he posts more about himself being green, no? Or maybe that was just a result of L attacking him like a relentless attack dog. Someone to look out for, but not that high on the list. Might warrant an RC though. Seriously its kinda hard to tell what he is purely from behavior (although he's never been red, right?)
meeple: I'm on the fence with him right now. If you want more info you can look at my archived accusation post about him.
Osmoses: Pretty much same as meeple

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Note* by the end, I kinda got lazy. Like I said, I am gone tomorrow, so I need to get to bed early tonight and ran out of time. Either way, good luck in my absence. I know this list is long. If you can get people to talk, it shouldn't be too hard to narrow the list down to a manageable size. But then again, since Caller's checked red, I probably wasted my time here. Just use this as a guideline so you can actually try to do stuff and not just sit there. Just because Ace has found us a mafia doesn't mean we get to rest for a day. Keep up the posting, and cya on thursday!

On April 21 2010 14:20 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:


Oh, are you sure? I thought everyone got PM if they were blocked, regardless of role

also possible is the mafia blocking nobody, and having a red come out and say he was blocked. Like jeejee did in WaW.

On April 21 2010 15:49 motbob wrote:
I don't want to get modkilled, so here I am, posting. I think town is pretty much on the right track so there is no need to delve into anyone's posts or anything yet.

On April 23 2010 13:51 IntoTheWow wrote:
Nice post Incognito.

I don't agree about nAi.Protoss thought, I used to think he was mafia too (but right now, after 1 day I have lost some ideas why, I need to re-read his history).

I say we take a bet on nai.Protoss + BC / RoL. I know it's kind of risky, but if we hit 1, we get their KP down. With the hit on BC / RoL we get some info on the other.

Assassins should definitely hit inactives as you pointed out, as an assassin I would look into voting histories, some people have been voting with the masses and moving votes (meaning they have been reading the thread) but barely post.

It would suck to have more inactive townies, we already had too many : /

From the list your provided, If i were an assassin I would hit Fishball, JadeFist or motbob. Those three seem to be the ones voting and following the thread at least a little, but staying under the radar, not posting in general.

On April 24 2010 10:46 Osmoses wrote:
OK so the question now is... Can we trust RoL's role check on BC? I should think so, otherwise he'd have put himself at an awful risk.

On April 24 2010 18:07 Incognito wrote:
Fishball: Its day 3, you're a troll, and you gotta come out now. Thanks. Oh also one interesting thing to note is that you comment saying the zbot archive is awesome. Why is this so? Either you just threw this out there to fake activity, or you're actually using it to do analysis. Take your pick.

Bill Murray: At first he made me think he was just playing usual and just be ignored. But his posting has dramatically declined. Busy? Thinks he's in the clear? Not his spammy usual self anymore. But then again, its really hard to read him. If he's mafia, he may be receiving orders from a strong mafia player (BC). Lets see if his posting deteriorates even more after BC is offed. He's been acting inconsistently though. No. 1 RC suspect imo.

Scaramanga: You've been useless enough, been called out enough times on it, and haven't responded. Moreover, you seem to be active elsewhere but not here. You've been around long enough to know what is expected.

motbob: motbob is inconsistent. Besides his early useless posts, he posts this:

But only two posts later, he says:

So the town is on the right track, but then only two posts later we're doomed? What happened? I'm sure the night kills didn't change your mind that much...your posting is inconsistent, and you just seem to be stirring the pot and trying to avoid discussion when possible. Then, you pop up and say we're doomed, likely because you want to out all the power roles. Given that I still think there's at least 2 medics in there, that would help you a lot if you were mafia, right? Trying to push the boat in the direction you want? Seems like it to me.

Falcynn: I thought you could've been mafiassassin given that you were talking a lot about assassins in your early posts. But now that all the assassins are gone, I guess that clears a few things up. Other than that, advocates a randomlynch, posts more useless information, then responds to me. Then your posts really start to slide. Defending your terrible play, admitting to active lurking, and even more defense of your terrible play. I wish townies would just stop defending their terrible play. Either way, I don't think you're a townie, so whatever. In response to your post, I had an inkling AFJ was an assassin, and felt bored last night. Sadly, he didn't bother following through and choosing to kill you. If you tried to kill him to stop his hit from coming through, it wouldn't work, all night actions happen simultaneously. So no, I won't use that excuse, but then again, I don't really need to.

d3: hmm the Caller-is-innocent vibes may have been coming from reading my list of innocents. Blindly following me? Or having a subconscious bias of Caller's innocence because of my statement? Other than that, he seems to be posting like normal from past games. I like my other suspects better. Although d3 hasn't been extremely helpful. Hmm...I seem to remember that he is usually more technical and planning-oriented. Didn't see too much of that in his current posts.

Scamp: probably town. I like RoL(?)'s and meeple's latest analysis of him. yeah, he voted jpak, but I don't know how much weight that holds for me. His mention of TheLardyGooser doesn't seem a mafia oriented action. And even though he's been around for a while, I don't think he would be one to accuse his own mafia member off the bat. Although given the weird activities going around lately, I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia had a solid player around trying to coach the weaker ones. (Would make sense since BC has been so inactive all game).

Anyway, paper due on monday morning, so I will probably be less active until then. Looks like not much is happening right now though.

On April 25 2010 06:54 Ace wrote:
Better that they are gone because they were useless to the town.

On April 28 2010 20:50 Scaramanga wrote:
Voted brownbear as i dont want to be killed