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On April 30 2010 15:56 IntoTheWow wrote:
If it's not obvious enough, Protoss is Mafia.
I'm voting him and meeple as lynch targets.
I think they are solid lynch options from the info we got from the previous weeks, all the constant defending themselves and not posting for anything more than that.
If you are a townie you should do the same (and if you are not going to do the same, post why please).
*Sigh* whats the point anymore. No medic prots. 8-6 means it takes UNANIMOUS town consent to lynch a mafioso, because we need 8 votes to lynch, and the 6 mafioso are not going to vote for a mafioso if they can help it (or will switch right before there is a majority if they can). Given the large splits in the vote, it will be almost impossible to win.
Right now I'm thinking Scara, nai.Protoss, and nbtnbt5 are strong candidates for mafia. Honestly, I don't get the reasoning for you ppl who are voting Scamp. From what I can gather, his early posts were pretty pro-town, and his recent posts haven't been too alerting. Even if he is mafia, we have better people to go after. Meeple also I think is an inferior lynch candidate. Meeple's behavior is not at all pro-town. Posting only when prodded. Useless posting, and sloppy medic list making. But meeple responded reasonably to my accusations, I feel. Like motbob said, retard townie v. mafia. I'm inclined to go for retard townie here and go for the other more suspicious people instead.
Speaking of motbob, the night kills are a bit...interesting. Fishball accused Scara, and died, but motbob defended Scara as a retard townie, and died. I'm thinking that the night kills were probably attempted (partially successful?) blue snipes. Not sure what to make of the Scara business though. I'll think about this for a while, and either vote Scara/nbt or nai/nbt at this point. What do you guys think? Remember, we'll need complete unanimity to actually catch a scum.
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The way I see it, Incog, you've got the most townie credit. We should discuss all possible options and then have you make the final decision. Anyone disagree with this?
Right now Osmoses has confirmed mafia to me by voting myself and Scara without bothering to post in the thread. And while she's been useful in the past, I think we need to look at Korynne for disappearing yesterday. My case and thoughts on Bill Murray is pretty clear at the moment. Finally I still think madnessman is also a good bet.
I do need to go over the recent dead's posts, though. But I really don't think Scaramanga is a good target. Nai and nbt are okay, but I'm definitely sold on Osmoses.
Also the lack of activity is disturbing. I really hope it picks up soon.
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Projects completed, ready for all of my tests, no obligations for the next few days, time to sit down and finally...oh wtf I'm dead. Well at least I can try to save face by being active in Ace's game =/ Sorry guys.
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Ummm so do you guys actually have any reasons for voting for me? Or are you actually following Bill Murray?
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On April 30 2010 16:20 Incognito wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2010 15:56 IntoTheWow wrote:
If it's not obvious enough, Protoss is Mafia.
I'm voting him and meeple as lynch targets.
I think they are solid lynch options from the info we got from the previous weeks, all the constant defending themselves and not posting for anything more than that.
If you are a townie you should do the same (and if you are not going to do the same, post why please). *Sigh* whats the point anymore. No medic prots. 8-6 means it takes UNANIMOUS town consent to lynch a mafioso, because we need 8 votes to lynch, and the 6 mafioso are not going to vote for a mafioso if they can help it (or will switch right before there is a majority if they can). Given the large splits in the vote, it will be almost impossible to win. Right now I'm thinking Scara, nai.Protoss, and nbtnbt5 are strong candidates for mafia. Honestly, I don't get the reasoning for you ppl who are voting Scamp. From what I can gather, his early posts were pretty pro-town, and his recent posts haven't been too alerting. Even if he is mafia, we have better people to go after. Meeple also I think is an inferior lynch candidate. Meeple's behavior is not at all pro-town. Posting only when prodded. Useless posting, and sloppy medic list making. But meeple responded reasonably to my accusations, I feel. Like motbob said, retard townie v. mafia. I'm inclined to go for retard townie here and go for the other more suspicious people instead. Speaking of motbob, the night kills are a bit...interesting. Fishball accused Scara, and died, but motbob defended Scara as a retard townie, and died. I'm thinking that the night kills were probably attempted (partially successful?) blue snipes. Not sure what to make of the Scara business though. I'll think about this for a while, and either vote Scara/nbt or nai/nbt at this point. What do you guys think? Remember, we'll need complete unanimity to actually catch a scum.
I agree with the 2 combos you proposed. Scara / nAi could work as well.
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is awesome32275 Posts
Thinking about it again, I think I would go for nAi / nbt.
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Belgium9947 Posts
tbh, there's no point in trying to switch targets. To get a majority, the entire town has to align vs mafia, and thats not going to work unless we focus on 2 inactives.
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OR we can all focus along with Incognito. Is everyone trying to ignore my post?
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Oh well I don't know, my vote on meeple was more of an accumulation on weird behavior throughout the game more than a strong claim in a certain point, and Incognito pointed that out. I guess it made sense.
At the same time I feel the same as everyone, this is very hard to keep going right now :/
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Hard to keep going....going to be back possibly too late to change your vote (you have about 33 hours from right now, WTF?).... WAY too many excuses ITW.
I'm uneasy about how quickly people are voting for protoss, nbt, and Scaramanga. I doubt it's only townies voting so far and we're at double mylo. Someone in there probably isn't mafia.
We're going with Incognito, everyone! Hope he posts soon. If he doesn't, I really hope people are willing to follow me.
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Hard to keep going is not an excuse, maybe I worded it wrong. What I mean is that I don't have the same will to play as I had on day 1, 2 or 3 there's little people who actually discussed ideas or actually took the time to read old posts  Just discouraging, I guess that's the word.
I'm going out in 1-1:30 hours, and I will be back to my PC in 25~ but it could be more, that's why I'm scared of missing the deadline.
I don't have trouble changing my vote as long as it's for someone like Incognito who seems pretty pro-
town.
So I guess as of now, I will keep my vote as I left it unless Incognito posts again and rallies a different call.
If he doesn't answer or nobody else does, I will leave it like my original vote (along with RaGe & company).
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is awesome32275 Posts
I'm leaving, reverting my vote to what everyone has I guess.
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is awesome32275 Posts
I might make it thought, so if you really think of a better plan, I'll check TL first thing when I come back home and vote :p
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Dunno if I'll get a better plan, really. I'm just asking everyone to rally around Incognito since he's the clearest townie here IMO. If he doesn't post, oh, in the next 8 hours (leaving us exactly one day to get our votes in) then I'm hoping people will listen to me.
My greatest hope is to force the mafia to do to Incog what they had to do to Ace, after lynching two mafia of course.
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ok lets rally around incognito... this is actually a pretty good idea
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On April 30 2010 18:13 Scamp wrote:
The way I see it, Incog, you've got the most townie credit. We should discuss all possible options and then have you make the final decision. Anyone disagree with this?
Right now Osmoses has confirmed mafia to me by voting myself and Scara without bothering to post in the thread. And while she's been useful in the past, I think we need to look at Korynne for disappearing yesterday. My case and thoughts on Bill Murray is pretty clear at the moment. Finally I still think madnessman is also a good bet.
I do need to go over the recent dead's posts, though. But I really don't think Scaramanga is a good target. Nai and nbt are okay, but I'm definitely sold on Osmoses.
Also the lack of activity is disturbing. I really hope it picks up soon.
Hmm Osmoses is interesting. But I get the same feel as meeple. Partially scummy behavior, but partially not. While I see your reasons for suspecting him, I see some redeeming value there as opposed to nbt or nai, who have done absolutely nothing. Korynne is more like you, Scamp, I feel. Pro-town pretty consistently, and I don't think her disappearance yesterday overrules her previous usefulness to the town.
I still think Scara is good. But it seems like we won't get a majority on him right now. Everyone should post their thoughts about Scaramanga here. If it looks like we can get a majority, I'll go for him. Otherwise, I think nbt and nai are still better targets. Not too much time right now, but when I get home I'll look through the votes to see if these bandwagons give me any information. The only thing I'm worried about though, is that the mafia can afford to lose one of their players and still win the game with night kills. Therefore, we need 2 correct lynches to have any chance of winning. Which makes the bandwagon effect a little harder to analyze since mafia can make us doubt our lynch choices by bandwagonning one of their own.
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Oh also note to all townies: Hold your votes for the moment. Placeholder votes atm allow the mafia to come in and swoop down for the kill. Since if there's two votes on an innocent, the mafia can cast all 6 of their votes for that one person, resulting in an automatic mislynch.
Also please discuss your thoughts on the candidates. Osmoses/Meeple in one category (as per scamp), nai/nbt/scara in another category.
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I think we should take into account the fact that nbt STILL hasn't analyzed a single player in this game, even after I called him out about it. He replied:
On April 29 2010 09:01 nbtnbt5 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2010 07:11 madnessman wrote:
What the heck is this? I'm starting to think nbtnbt5 is getting WAY too complacent in this game. Such posting is unacceptable... While understandable as terrible play as mafia, I can't fathom why any town-aligned player would EVER post like this. Irregardless of new or not new. Unlike nai who actually came out and analyzed somebody, nbt's post history is a series of one liners, and he hasn't even responded to or acknowledged korynn's request. I am thus changing my vote to him, in the hope that he feels pressured to properly explain himself. Sorry >.< And sorry, but what was korynn's request? Since this post, he has posted again in the thread, but has neglected to do any analysis as requested... In answer to the pressure put upon him to explain his voting, he replied: On April 29 2010 09:00 nbtnbt5 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2010 06:12 Incognito wrote:Not a lot of time to reach a majority, but I now think nbtnbt5 would be a good bet. Why? Well, first off, he's inactive. Like a lot of other people. But he's "interested that nai.protoss chose to analyze a really inactive poster". In itself, that sounds suspicious. Trying to hide much? Furthermore, when asked why he voted for Scaramanga, he says that he is pretty easily swayed, and cites blind support for BM's plan. Sorry, but you can't just get away with blind support. If he was truly swayed by the argument against Scaramanga (as presented by Rage methinks?), then he would know that the argument was that Scara is useless. Now, what exactly have you done, nbtnbt5? Hypocrisy much? I wasn't entirely swayed by Rage's post. It's just I was unsure on who to vote for and saw a bandwagon forming, so I just jumped on it. Except the bandwagon died, and now I'm not sure who to vote for. Anyways, I'm just lurking because I don't feel I can contribute anything (bad townie here). I'm not saying that I'm fully convinced nbt is mafia, but with so little substance in his posting, it's hard to gauge whether nbt is merely a terrible town player or actually mafia... :-/
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
Will have a vote count up shortly as soon as I can sit down for five minutes...
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Incog I think my opinions on those people are clear, but if anyone needs them I can post again.
I'll just bring this up now: We need a double lynch passed for tomorrow as well as two dead mafia today. It's my only vote of the day, I don't think this should have been overlooked by anyone. People really aren't paying much attention to the game right now.
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