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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
I will do some behavior shit in the morning :D Also on the issue of lynching I don't think we need 20 votes for a lynch, I think its 20 votes for an immediate lynch on someone, or the person with the most votes by the end of the day gets lynched. I PMed flamewheel about it though, so I guess we will find out. | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On April 20 2010 09:00 Caller wrote: a simple check reveals that about 75% of the time either the #3 or #4 voter in any bandwagon in TL mafia is scum (day 1 and 2, that is). You're the fourth, mate, and you seem to be agreeing with me, which is ALWAYS a bad sign. Call has a point, only 32% of all statistics are made up on the spot. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On April 20 2010 09:05 Jugan wrote: Call has a point, only 32% of all statistics are made up on the spot. mate go check the games yourself i already did it and its 92% not 32% | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On April 20 2010 09:06 Caller wrote: mate go check the games yourself i already did it and its 92% not 32% The point is an arbitrary number can serve for it since the number itself is made up. Due to the fact that I was being sarcastic, I chose a number below 50% in mock support for your ridiculous assumption. And no, I will not look through every single game to see if the statistic made up happens to match up with a coincidence in other mafia games. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On April 20 2010 09:10 Jugan wrote: The point is an arbitrary number can serve for it since the number itself is made up. Due to the fact that I was being sarcastic, I chose a number below 50% in mock support for your ridiculous assumption. And no, I will not look through every single game to see if the statistic made up happens to match up with a coincidence in other mafia games. well, you see, i actually looked through the games. Well not all of them but i did a SRS of which games to look at. I looked at 8 and 6 games had that phenomenon. And I was aware of your sarcasm, as you saw I picked 92%. Please don't try and lecture me if you're not going to backup your words. | ||
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CynanMachae
Canada1459 Posts
On April 20 2010 09:03 Jugan wrote: You fail to realize that I was correct on all but one mafia guess, and that it was I myself who convinced meeples and citi.zen that DrH along with mystlord and others were mafia. While you were busy in the kiddie pool trying to figure out how to play, I took the information Bill Murray passed along to me and won the game for the town. I also have records of private messages and MSN conversations to go along with it. Feel free to stop being an idiot. Thanks  Hm. Don't push that too much. The convincing factor was the clue check on DrH which painted him as red. | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On April 20 2010 09:12 Caller wrote: well, you see, i actually looked through the games. Well not all of them but i did a SRS of which games to look at. I looked at 8 and 6 games had that phenomenon. And I was aware of your sarcasm, as you saw I picked 92%. Please don't try and lecture me if you're not going to backup your words. Lol sorry if I choose to back up my words with logical reasoning. Sorry you say random things and when people inquire about them you ignore them and move on to the next random thing? | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
On April 20 2010 09:13 CynanMachae wrote: Hm. Don't push that too much. The convincing factor was the clue check on DrH which painted him as red. Yeah, and do you know how long citi.zen accused me of being full of shit until I convinced meeples to tell citi.zen that I wasn't? | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On April 20 2010 09:03 Jugan wrote: You fail to realize that I was correct on all but one mafia guess, and that it was I myself who convinced meeples and citi.zen that DrH along with mystlord and others were mafia. While you were busy in the kiddie pool trying to figure out how to play, I took the information Bill Murray passed along to me and won the game for the town. I also have records of private messages and MSN conversations to go along with it. Feel free to stop being an idiot. Thanks On January 29 2010 02:32 Jugan wrote: So let me get this straight. You're basing your accusation of hyperbola on a short post that DrH made in attempt to look like he was analyzing and contributing? There are a multitude of better candidates at the moment than Keit and Hyperbola. You're just aggressively pointing fingers because you think you've got everything figured out, when in reality you're not looking at things objectively. You're just seeing what you want to see. On January 29 2010 02:46 Jugan wrote: Lol are you fucking serious? Some one can't find a translation for a quote in a foreign language and that's supposed to mean something? Clues aren't based on posts genius. And you claim DrH is defending Hyperbola when he talks about the apple and implicates Keit when he doesn't even MENTION hyperbola? I've looked at your "evidence" and you've just made a story and found posts and tried to make those posts fit into your story. Mystlord's post seems geniune - I can understand where he came from, he even explained his reasoning and how there may have been a hole in it. Does this mean he's innocent? Not necessarily, but the posts you are referring to uses semi-rational reasoning, even if it is slightly flawed. The point is: you're wrong, and stop calling people out on the thread. On January 29 2010 03:21 Jugan wrote: Yeah except that 1) citizen is fucking nuts and won't even listen at all. 2) If he is "inactive"... there are better targets. If he is "laying low"... there are better targets. [insert bad excuse to lynch hyperbola here]... there are better targets. On January 29 2010 10:04 Jugan wrote: Maybe? He hasn't said anything correct. Just look at his argument. It makes NO RATIONAL SENSE. (The final list of the mafia was DoctorHelvetica, Jayme, Hyperbola, Phrujbaz, derfboy, Mystlord, and Keit.) I also have PM evidence saying you would support DoctorHelvetica in your voting. While you were seemingly trying as hard as it is possible for a town-allied player to lose us the game, some players were actually finding the mafia. Citi.zen said several times in that thread that it WASNT you at all who clued him in to DrH. Congratulations on figuring out someone was a detective after they told you, that's your only tangible accomplishment in that game. Feel free to stop being an egotistical ass. Thanks | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
I guess in the end I should apologize for convincing people not to lynch you, as a fool like yourself would be unable to understand events that transgressed outside of the forum. | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
I'm sorry that you're a buffoon, truly I am. Next time I'll let everyone lynch you, because you're an idiot. | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
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[NyC]HoBbes
United States803 Posts
On April 20 2010 09:23 Jugan wrote: Yeah, I'm sorry if you can't read what I said earlier. I was in close contact with DrH, and was able to work out who he was working with thanks to that. I feigned ignorance and begun posting little in the thread because if DrH knew I was voting against him, he would have obviously killed me. Of course, you are a simpleton and cannot understand this. So i'll leave it at that. A I guess in the end I should apologize for convincing people not to lynch you, as a fool like yourself would be unable to understand events that transgressed outside of the forum. This still doesn't explain why after DrH died and citi.zen, who was supposedly entirely under your direction (which he denies), called out nearly all the remaining mafia, you told everyone until the bitter end that everyone who agreed with citizen was a moron. Calling me a simpleton doesn't change the fact that you're full of shit | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Date: 1/23/10 14:46 <---- ONE DAY AFTER TL MAFIA XVI STARTED. [citi.zen] I am curious: what evidence are we talking about? He made an incorrect defense for himself today, claiming he voluntarily shared his relationship with Bill, whereas he really had no choice. What else? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: [me] all evidence points to DrH. anyway, the important thing is you keep it to yourself. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: [citi.zen] I told Bill from the start not to trust DrH or anyone else without role-checking first, but he chose to trust DrH. I still think that was imprudent, but do not have any evidence against Dr.H at the moment. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: [me] I am certain that DrH is mafia. If it helps, Bill is 99% sure DrH is mafia as well... or was until he died. | ||
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Incognito
United States2071 Posts
@ Radfield: Hmm, interesting what you have to say about my analysis. Looking at that accusation of Zona/BC doesn't seem all that suspicious to me though. Actually that was one of the points that I thought was one of the less suspicious posts from Osmoses. If Osmoses truly is a newer player (I don't know if he's played in other games?) then his accusation of Zona/BC can't be taken so suspiciously. As I recall a number of other people were also suspicious of Zona or BC. Not both, but still something to think about. I still think the I'm a newb card is the most suspicious thing about this character. *Anyway, glad to see that he's posted a response.* About Bill Murray, Stuff suspicious is happening about Bill Murray. But I don't think that necessarily means he's mafia. After all, with all the horrible plans he comes up with, I'm sure the mafia would want to follow it in an attempt to look useful whether BM is mafia or not. Mafia like to follow sucky plans, regardless where they come from. Which I guess is brilliant on BM's part. I'd focus on BM's follower's behaviors to see their motives for now, as BC said, his behavior has brought up some shady responses. Either way, Rage, I don't think I completely understand your proposal. When I read it I thought you wanted to scrap all the conversation before day 2 as evidence...but that seems really bizzare and ridiculous to me. Did you mean to say something else? On April 20 2010 04:25 Bill Murray wrote: I'd also like to add that I get townie vibes from your entire list, crescentia. Ok wat? Yeah, I know you have a weird penchant for saying random stuff that doesnt make sense...but seriously how can you get town vibes from ppl like RoL? The rest I can understand, but I don't know how ANYONE can get a pro-town read from RoL. KF91 is going on my innocent list, which now reads: Zona BC d3_crescentia Caller Bill Murray KF91 For those of you looking for a justification, well, lets just say...I don't want to give the mafia any tips. Fairly certain he's pro-town though. Jugan. What I think of him has changed over the last few pages. Initially he was acting really abrasive with the mods, which put a sour taste in my mouth. Include the "I'm a miller" statements, and it could very well be a coverup for rolechecks. The difference between this one and BM's statements I think though, are the fact that Jugan says he's 100% miller, whereas Bill only says he's probably the miller, as i recall. Does anyone know if Jugan normally does this? Either way, its kind of an awkward statement to make. Originally, Jugan gave me some pretty suspicious vibes, but now I'm beginning to think he's fairly pro-town. He's not going on my list though. I'm definitely keeping an eye on you. For some reason I feel like you're just nit picking through IntoTheWow's posts and unfairly attacking him. RoL...hmm well I remember him actually using this same excuse before. Which I'm pretty sure was legit. I've never heard of jpak before, so that + being inactive gives him an edge in my view. *edit nvm Jugan seems to be legit to me. New updated Innocent list: Zona BC d3_crescentia Caller Bill Murray KF91 Jugan @ Osmoses: Hmm...well, I guess I can interpret that statement as a rhetorical "duh isn't this the obviously best course of action" statement, but I'm not sure how much I'm convinced. Looking at the rest of your argument, it seems...actually I'm not sure. Your logic seems to be somewhat reasonable for being a newer player. Looking back at my previous playstyle, I can see how you could think that. In response to your question, no, medics can also protect against vig hits and assassin hits. Anyway, this large post tells me that you are capable of being coherent. Keep it up, I'm going to be expecting more posts like this from you. On April 20 2010 06:11 Bill Murray wrote: I don't understand this at fucking all. When you are green you have big posts, and I had you written off as green, but your shift towards smaller posts is AWAY from your green meta and really had me thinking that you are red. Let's lynch KF91. Well, I don't find you annoying, but when you are green you tend to come out and actually accuse people instead of squirming and getting defensive with very short posts. When you are green you craft elaborate posts, and you are not doing that, so therefore you will flip scum when we lynch you. Wat lol. Ok, I've refrained from quoting and pointing out every single BM post until now. But this is really weird. Nothing outstandingly out of character, but you seem to be going overboard on the accusations my friend. Expect to be watched closely in the next few pages. Anyway this is taking too long. Posting this now, but more to come later. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
@Caller... lol it might be a statistic but as a determining factor in someone's redness its really weak. I'm sure you can pull up tons of statistics that don't prove anything | ||
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