Micro-MAFIA (The First)

On March 24 2010 03:17 Fishball wrote:
I'm at work. You guys do realize some of us have to work on weekdays right.
Lunch break now though.

So we get to vote right off the bat?

##Vote nemY##

On March 24 2010 09:05 Fishball wrote:


No, I voted you because of... well, um...
Oh, this.


Shouldn't you be voting for citizen, he did it first!

On March 25 2010 02:49 Versatile wrote:
nemy, i'm beginning to think you're just lazy or looking for random ish to post. i didn't know what those things meant but i put them into google and voila.

On March 25 2010 09:24 Vivi57 wrote:
At this point, johnny is almost definitely scum. PBPA of johnny:

1: asks why ace hates me a couple posts after the start of the game. Essentially a post with no content, although the game is so early you can't really count this against him.

2: random vote on nemy. I've already commented about this.

3: reply to my accusation. Jumps on my weak point about his first post, completely ignores the main point I make about his weak vote late into the day, and complains that I haven't defended myself. To top it all off, he puts a vote on me with no real reason cited.


If this wasn't enough, look more closely. Once I accused him, it took him 6 minutes to reply to me before and after which he was nowhere to be seen. If this isn't active lurking then I don't know what is.

It's very cute that you guys are spreading votes, but we need to work together to lynch the mafia.

On March 26 2010 05:55 nemY wrote:


Can we seriously stop with the acronyms? Seriously it took me 10 minutes of looking up what PBPA meant... only to find nothing and then sit there and realize how fucking retarded I am: POINT BY POINT ANALYSIS.

On March 27 2010 01:55 citi.zen wrote:
Fishball, johnnyspazz, nemY, Versatile - your thoughts on the blue claim and subsequent lynching would be greatly appreciated. Haster - a clearer answer from you would be nice as well.

Silence is good for mafia at this point.

On March 28 2010 05:05 citi.zen wrote:

Massive contribution, now we're getting somewhere!

On March 27 2010 12:47 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Ironically, I am quoting the dead here.



I agree completely with Versatile here. Ace I don't agree with killing the roleclaimer and I think vivi did a horrendous job with it. The problem is that you logically are correct. You CANNOT confirm a medic claim without sacrificing the other medic. However the mafia are risking that there is not another medic in the game.

If there is a medic in the game then what will happen is the medic just has to claim as well and we kill the first claimer, and then kill the counterclaim if necessary.

The only problem here is that there is no way of knowing whether or not there is a medic so its a real risky play on mafias part. So I think killing a claimer either way is worth it. In this setup losing your medic or DT for a mafia is completely worth it. Either one cannot be validated since an actual DT would check someone and know if they were town aligned or mafia aligned and a fake DT would know who the mafia are. No role claims can be substantiated, ever.

But I do overall agree, first day claiming is dumb, and as a mafia move it is even more stupid. However a kill-able offense is questionable considering how much more risky it is as mafia, considering counter claim = rape and you pointed out how much it can suck losing a mafia member real quick.

Since even you Ace disagree with the depth of a WIFOM argument I am going to have to say you are mafia.

We can say that Citizen argued with Vers because he read her role perfectly then killed her so that he would be "suspicious" because of his arguing with her, which would be what Ace would do because he knows how the town would read it.

It is much easier (and goes with what you believe) to say that you killed Versatile because you had a read on her and either purposely or coincidentally Citizen had been fighting with her the entire time.

Which would be Citizen mind fucking us. From day 1.

##Vote Ace##

Sorry buddy, no scum in my city.

Anyway guys, that is my thought for the day. I am going to head to sleep and I have 12 hours of work tomorrow so I won't be on again until late at night (another 10:30 EST approx)

GL Anyone disagree with my analysys? My secondary suspect is Fishball, but I am not too convinced on anyone else <3

On March 28 2010 14:29 johnnyspazz wrote:
i think nemY's vote for ace is hilarious
"holy shit we lost both blues already that means the mafia must be hella good. oh wait! ace is a gosu player! must be his doing."

On March 25 2010 15:04 Vivi57 wrote:
lawl, this is what we get for letting 2 games run at the same time.

Anyway, if anyone still cares about the game, if I die, dt should check ace tonight.

Oh, and there's a good chance I won't be back before the deadline, but I might be back around 9pm est.

On March 29 2010 10:23 citi.zen wrote:
Parting words, while I am still allowed to write them: don't let Ace get away with this. Don't buy his illogical "no vote" argument, and don't let him say "hey, YOU voted for citi.zen, I wanted RoL all along" - he was always going to switch if needed. This passing of the blame is exactly what he's done with Vivi - go back and read the posts.




GL town.

On March 29 2010 13:36 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:

I recall thinking this, dunno if I said it.

Also, ima say it.

I was right.

On March 27 2010 12:11 Fishball wrote:
Remaining Player list
RebirthOfLeGenD
Ace
citi.zen
Fishball
haster27
johnnyspazz
nemY

7 players left, 2 are Mafia.
I know I'm green, so that leaves me with 6 choices.
If I vote randomly, there is a 33% chance I will hit a Mafia.

Now lets take a look at the order of Zona's list of players.



As pure speculation, it would be fair to say there will be a Mafia in 1-3 and another one in 5-7.
Granted, this is purely speculation, as we already have 2 blues at the bottom of the list, and Zona might not have used the exact order to generate roles.

There is a good chance that either Ace or citi.zen, that one of them could be red.

This thread citi.zen has posted the most, with Ace being second. Versatile haven't posted much at all, just like me, Nemy etc., yet she was hit. Why?

Previous history? Ace definitely knows her more than anyone else here. Random hit? Could be anyone. How random can this be?

Of course people can say, "What if you are lying? What if you are Mafia?".
Well to those 4 other Townies out there, you know who you are. I don't need you to believe what I say, but I want you to be aware of the situation.

On March 28 2010 13:48 Fishball wrote:
nemY being in the bottom bracket which I mentioned before, and his out of nowhere behavior draws my attention.

I'm inclined to vote him or citi.zen, or maybe even RoL.

On March 28 2010 15:59 Fishball wrote:


Either your comprehension skills are bad, or you're trying to make a play.
I said I know I'm green, but I also said I don't expect everyone to believe me. I could very well be red in another player's eyes. I don't get what you're trying to pick at.

I've made up my mind.
##Vote citi.zen##

On March 29 2010 11:04 johnnyspazz wrote:
bummer
ill try this anyway
##Vote fishball##

On March 31 2010 06:38 nemY wrote:
Fishball admits that the list is flawed yet still tries to stick by/defend it

Please quote me "sticking" to it and "defending" it.

On March 28 2010 13:48 Fishball wrote:
nemY being in the bottom bracket which I mentioned before, and his out of nowhere behavior draws my attention.

I'm inclined to vote him or citi.zen, or maybe even RoL.

On March 31 2010 09:02 Fishball wrote:

Excluding yourself, your top 3 list is 3 out of 4 remaining players. Just saying.


That was never a real mafia list, hence the statement: PURE SPECULATION.


Please quote me "sticking" to it and "defending" it.


citi.zen used a flaw argument saying that I could be Mafia, where I already mentioned right there that I could very well be. Do all of you guys fail at reading? You make a mistake, I vote for you, pretty much that simple.


1. I already said the list was pure speculation. You and citi.zen both failed to understand what that means.
2. I specifically mentioned in the post that I could very well be Mafia, and the Town need not believe everything I say. You and citi.zen both missed that as well.
3. Either citi.zen has bad comprehension skills (like the majority of players tbh), or he is playing dumb to "accuse" me, when all the stuff has ALREADY been covered in the first place. I actually think citi.zen is a decent player.

Just to elaborate more regarding the term "bad comprehension skills". It doesn't exactly mean the person is bad at reading and/or understanding, although those are the main causes. Another thing is people tend to skim through posts and just start to reply, which is actually even more annoying. A lot of information is lost in translation, key terms are missed, and people just start arguing over virtually nothing (Your post is a good example). This is also one of the reasons why I avoid long daily debates and tend to keep things to myself to a certain degree.

On April 01 2010 11:06 Fishball wrote:
3 Days of boredom, 3 minutes of excitement.

On April 04 2010 12:07 Vivi57 wrote:
ace for mvp just for getting me killed, hitting L, then living through day2

not to mention helping nemy

On April 04 2010 12:09 citi.zen wrote:
I was sure Fishball was the other mafia. Nothing he said made any sense + weird voting + botched role-claim.

If I had to guess I'd say most townies didn't even bother to read my posts vs. Ace. Lesson for me: brevity >> detailed arguments.