EPTTL Mafia Ban List - Page 72
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Jackal58
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6782 Posts
##Vote GMarshal... | ||
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Foolishness
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Qatol
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Barundar
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On April 30 2011 16:56 Qatol wrote: You guys don't need to replace me. Let's just say I have been persuaded to stay for now. I'll explain more tomorrow and update things (I haven't had the time/energy to read anything posted since I posted last other than the stuff on this page). Welcome back commander! | ||
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chaoser
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
I will now read everything you write in a computerized yet sultry female voice. Thanks CnC | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
Thats how lost we were. GM | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
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Coagulation
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 30 2011 16:56 Qatol wrote: You guys don't need to replace me. Let's just say I have been persuaded to stay for now. I'll explain more tomorrow and update things (I haven't had the time/energy to read anything posted since I posted last other than the stuff on this page). YES! all hail the return of our benevolent snake god! Thank you so much for coming back Qatol, the mafia forums just wouldn't have been the same without you ^_^ | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
It felt like we were confused and lost without you, because, we were confused and lost without you.  Welcome Back! | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
New Ban List Thread Rules If the ban is not a standard inactivity modkill, do not ask me to unilaterally make a decision as to punishment without at least consulting the host of the game. I will not do it. If you ask repeatedly, I will give you a ban list ban. If I tell you to stop discussing a topic in a ban discussion, you drop it. I don't care what your opinion on the relevance of the subject is, you drop it. Similarly, if I tell you to stop spamming the ban list thread, you stop. Personal attacks towards me during ban list discussions are unacceptable. I know you are angry at what is going on, but that doesn't mean you can insult me. It isn't like I get paid for doing what I do. All I ask for is a little respect. I will consult with whoever my replacement host is, and if we both agree that what you said was over the line, you get a ban list ban. Coagulation I'm sick of this ban discussion, so I'm just going to treat it as a special circumstance (due to other things that happened in the game). Is everyone okay with giving him a 1 game ban, but treating it as his second ban list ban (so if he is banned again, he gets 5 games)? Also, use of forms of the word "fuck" and capslock abuse are bannable offenses for him. Capslock abuse Are people okay with me adding capslock abuse in general to bannable offenses? I really see no reason for it and it tends to escalate already emotional situations. Profanity I feel that players are starting to get too long of a leash with thier use of profanity in game. I encourage hosts to be more proactive about warning/banning players for this. Qatol replacement As the OP states, Incognito was supposed to be the person to replace me if I am too involved in a ban situation or the banned player requests it. However, Incognito has left TL mafia for the foreseeable future. This means there is a vacancy. There are a few criteria for this position, however: 1. You have to be willing to sit out a game every now and then. I don't have a lot of free time. I also don't feel comfortable moderating a discussion when I am a player in that game or the host of that game. Therefore, if I want to play or host, you have to be willing to sit out. 2. You have to work well with me. This is pretty straightforward. I am going to have to interact with you. So if we don't get along, that would be problematic. 3. You have to be willing to give your opinion on most ban list discussions, even if you are not moderating the ban. 4. You have to be well regarded by the community as a whole. From the thread, I see a few people recommended. Incognito has also recommended someone: Flamewheel. He is my first choice because I know I interact with him well and he doesn't tend to blow up at people. However, I understand that people may be concerned about him after the Protactinium situation. Are people okay with Flamewheel in this position? Zorkmid It looks like he is gone (he was green2). Does anyone have a problem with me putting him on the semi-permanent bans and just having a discussion about him if he decides to return for whatever reason? It sounds like what he did was pretty bad. Ban List discussions I see comments mentioning that the ban list discussions are becoming a little too complicated, and I agree. On April 27 2011 14:41 citi.zen wrote: I keep thinking the fundamental reason for creating this sub-forum was to have a message-board helping hosts run better games. This sort of ban used to be simple: in 99% of cases the host asked for a recourse, Qatol marked it down as a neutral 3rd party and it was a done deal! Now there's all this back and forth with every ban, everyone and their grandmother feels they need to chime in, argue their case to multiple people, etc. Qatol is suddenly in the middle of it all, in the untenable spot of having to respond to everyone and defend every ban as if it's the product of the "Qatol code of laws", which is just not fair. I would suggest going back to a simpler procedure: 1. The host of the game in question proposes a penalty 2. Other veteran hosts (say with 5+ games hosted) get a say, if they desire to weigh in at all. 3. If there is a tie, someone well regarded like Ver breaks it. 4. Sleep well knowing people with a solid track record handle these situations in a simple and considerate manner. I suggest a variant of this. This list is supposed to be for hosts. I suggest going back to the way that it used to be - only hosts have a vote (you can see this in BM's ban after PYP1). I suggest that you only get a vote if you have hosted or actively cohosted (so you actually have to do a lot of stuff as a cohost) in 2 normal games (5 games is too much - that eliminates everyone except Caller and Chuiu, and mini games don't give enough experience imo). Anyone may chime in with their opinion to persuade the hosts, but only the hosts votes matter. Also, the host and cohost of that game get votes worth 1.5 of a vote. Miscellaneous On April 27 2011 13:17 Qatol wrote: Yes, but for there to be 1 game remaining on his ban, there should be 3 games sat out, 1 from his first (1 game) ban and 2 from his second (3 game) ban. The first sit out you linked to is from his 1 game ban. no it's not. My one game ban was ages before.[/QUOTE] My mistake. I will fix this. My apologies. On April 29 2011 14:20 tube wrote: well for whoever wants to help me get off the ban list im sitting out xxxix i think On April 27 2011 13:03 chaoser wrote: Requesting bans for Rean and Tackster for inactivity and not voting in Sleep Cell Mafia Updated. On April 27 2011 20:12 Rean wrote: Acknowledging the ban request for inactivity from iGrok's Sleeper Cell here. Will be sitting out XXXIX. This is okay if XXXIX starts after Sleeper Cell finishes. Otherwise, this is not okay. Can you please PM me if Sleeper Cell finishes before XXXIX starts? | ||
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GMarshal
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
that is all I will say about that. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
I agree with flamewheel as back up | ||
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chaoser
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On May 01 2011 10:02 chaoser wrote: request inactivity ban for Vain for not voting in Sleeper Cell Mafia Okay added | ||
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citi.zen
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Flamewheel is an excellent choice. Long time member, experienced host, eloquent writer, even temper... | ||
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