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Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 16:27:53
April 26 2011 16:20 GMT
#1341
On April 26 2011 22:25 Zona wrote:
I'll sit out 39. (This is the last game on my ban, btw, I've already sat out 2.)

You did? I have it marked as you have only sat out 1 game from this ban. Did I miss a sitting out post/PM somewhere?

And as for Coagulation, it seems everyone except Coagulation who has weighed in wants a standard ban for him at this point? I think I'm going to end this discussion in ~12 hours to give Coagulation some finality, so if you want to weigh in, do it now.
Uff Da
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7875 Posts
April 26 2011 16:55 GMT
#1342
coag 1 game ban tops. Anything aside from that at this point seems highly unfair given the situation.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
April 26 2011 17:10 GMT
#1343
I don't know if my opinion has any weight, but I don't even feel coag deserves a ban, based on the info that's out there.
purple2
Profile Joined April 2011
56 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 20:28:10
April 26 2011 17:11 GMT
#1344
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 17:14:19
April 26 2011 17:11 GMT
#1345
On April 27 2011 01:20 Qatol wrote:
And as for Coagulation, it seems everyone except Coagulation who has weighed in wants a standard ban for him at this point? I think I'm going to end this discussion in ~12 hours to give Coagulation some finality, so if you want to weigh in, do it now.


Why would you say that? Even meap said I shouldnt get a ban and hes the co host of the game.. but to be fair he said he wouldnt argue it because he didnt want to undermind Brownbear.


On April 26 2011 06:48 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Regarding Coagulation:

To sum it up: I agree with Coagulation's modkill but don't personally hold any grudges or ill-feelings against him. I also would not recommend banning him from any future games based on this incident.


its like 4 posts above you.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 19:18:48
April 26 2011 19:15 GMT
#1346
On April 27 2011 01:55 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
coag 1 game ban tops. Anything aside from that at this point seems highly unfair given the situation.

So you want to change standing ban list policy? How? It's currently a 3 game ban because he has a prior ban. Do you want to change that scale?

On April 27 2011 02:11 purple2 wrote:

Please edit this out and post on your non experimental game account.

On April 27 2011 02:11 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 27 2011 01:20 Qatol wrote:
And as for Coagulation, it seems everyone except Coagulation who has weighed in wants a standard ban for him at this point? I think I'm going to end this discussion in ~12 hours to give Coagulation some finality, so if you want to weigh in, do it now.


Why would you say that? Even meap said I shouldnt get a ban and hes the co host of the game.. but to be fair he said he wouldnt argue it because he didnt want to undermind Brownbear.

On April 25 2011 07:37 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
I'll go with what BB wants. I used the wrong words when I spoke with Coag, I wanted him just to stir stuff up to hide his team, I obviously didn't want him to spam the thread. What I had in mind was accussing random people or making false claims about what the mafia was going to do. I didn't know about him being aggressive towards his own teammates but even so I don't want to ban him, I'd just like everyone to move on from this game to minimize the resentment. But if BB is set on a ban then I'll support it.

He said he doesn't want to ban you, but he still supports a ban based upon brownbear's position.


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On April 26 2011 06:48 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Regarding Coagulation:

To sum it up: I agree with Coagulation's modkill but don't personally hold any grudges or ill-feelings against him. I also would not recommend banning him from any future games based on this incident.


its like 4 posts above you.
I misread this one. I apologize.
Uff Da
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
April 26 2011 22:32 GMT
#1347
I'd be completely fine with a one game ban. Anything else does seem a bit unnecessary.
SUNSFANNED
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-26 23:20:41
April 26 2011 23:02 GMT
#1348
Let me compile Coagulation's posts from the time the game started until he died just so people know exactly what they are talking about. I am also putting in my personal reactions to some of these posts (feel free to reply with the same):

+ Show Spoiler [Night 0] +

On April 09 2011 07:35 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 09 2011 07:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Just posting so coag can get a town read on me.


This looks legit.

Anyone notice tackster hasnt posted yet..
HMMMM..

On April 09 2011 07:41 Coagulation wrote:
hopefully

On April 09 2011 09:23 Coagulation wrote:
you dont want to talk about town sensitive information at night. you dont want to help mafia choose targets.

On April 09 2011 10:22 Coagulation wrote:
I dunno if its considered cheating but if i got something i need to say and im worried about being hit i will post my info at the last second so the mafia cant change hits based on it.
this is generally the safest route.

On April 09 2011 10:38 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 09 2011 10:26 aidnai wrote:
I agree with DrH about night talking. If you talk at night, there's nothing town can do about it until day, only mafia has the power at night.


town has plenty of night action powers...

On April 09 2011 10:43 Coagulation wrote:
yeah thats true to an extent. an experienced player may be able to make all the right calls without discussing it however newer players may need to have a little town guidance.
but like i said im still on the being quiet at nights side of the fence..

On April 09 2011 13:30 Coagulation wrote:
no your just extra scummy.

On April 10 2011 08:05 Coagulation wrote:
yeah whore for sure. no contest.

On April 10 2011 09:29 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 10 2011 09:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 10 2011 08:53 Kavdragon wrote:
On April 10 2011 08:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 10 2011 08:28 Tackster wrote:
Just wanted to let everyone know - sorry i've been away from the game - i don't want to lurk but real life is busy atm. I will be on tomorrow for some proper communications!!

it hasn't even started lol


The first night 0 I ever played with, RoL was mafia and he raged over how horrible/unfair a thing it was to do that to a mafia team afterwards. I consider this conclusive proof that using night 0 as much as possible is a good idea.

Is this why you don't like my play? I view night 0 very differently then you. The game started as soon as i got my role PM imo. Night 0 is really just Day 1 by another name.


no i just think its amusing that hes basically apologizing for inactivity when the game hasnt started


I may have made him a tad bit paranoid last game.

On April 10 2011 10:13 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 10 2011 10:06 urashimakt wrote:
On April 10 2011 09:58 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 10 2011 09:54 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 10 2011 09:49 Kavdragon wrote:
On April 10 2011 09:42 kitaman27 wrote:
On April 10 2011 09:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
dt check kav n1


You guys agreed on a godfather already? Bravo.


Lol, I don't need godfather. I'll just argue my way out of the lynch once someone DT's me as red. :p

And sure, if you have a doubt in you mind as to my alignment by N1, then DT me. There's no framer, so I don't have worry about it being wrong.

Scum slip????
So soon Kav?


How is that a slip? There is no framer.

So I can see why he says "scum slip", even if it's just a night 0 joke.

Jackal doesnt joke
Kavdragon just became the light at the end of jackals tunnel.

A little bit of playful spam, but otherwise okay in my opinion.

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1] +

On April 11 2011 03:31 Coagulation wrote:
what would be the incentive for an assassin to pardon ANYONE.. he would never do it.
every flip is viable to him.every flip gives him a chance of killing assassin. why would he stop a flip you guys are fucking insane.

On April 11 2011 03:36 Coagulation wrote:


DOCH - seems to be aggressive. Doch has a pretty agressive mafia play style.. i dunno if hes mafia in this game but its worth mentioning.
Kav - I dont see anything super scummy about how he has played so far. cant blame Doch for pressuring him tho.
Flamewheel - ROFL Anyone honestly considering putting a player with non town win condition in as mayor is fucking nuts.
GM - hes an active contributor. also hes easy to read. hes pretty much the only one beside Twinkles that gives me a good town read so far. Im not sure i want him as mayor considering his history of scumhunting.

On April 11 2011 03:47 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 11 2011 03:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
GMarshal are you going to lynch kavdragon/mib if you're elected? PLease do




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On April 11 2011 03:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
th emayor should not consider what the town thinks or wants. nevermind im not gonna vote for you


STFU DOCH

On April 11 2011 03:50 Coagulation wrote:
SERIOUSLY THERE IS LESS THAN A MINUTE BETWEEN THOSE 2 POSTS
WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU?

On April 11 2011 04:03 Coagulation wrote:
Doch plays Aggressively.. nothing new here.
However he plays scum even more Aggressively. so its something that you can only get a read on over time. A FOS on Doch at this point is pretty pointless.

On April 11 2011 05:02 Coagulation wrote:
AN ASSASSIN FOR MAYOR WITH PANDAIN HIS RIGHT HAND MAN ROFL
We might as well just fucking give up now.

On April 11 2011 05:06 Coagulation wrote:
Protactinium
Its fucking simple. you have a DIFFERENT OBJECTIVE then town.
What the fuck is so hard about that to wrap your head around.
There are a million fucking ways town can be fucked by you if you decide to play for your win condition. Sorry im not buying it you can put me on your little OMGUS list all you want.

On April 11 2011 05:09 Coagulation wrote:
WE ARE NOT AIMING TO KILL ASSASSINS
WE ARE AIMING TO KILL SCUM

On April 11 2011 05:13 Coagulation wrote:
Why are people fucking not understanding this?

I think this whole assassin debate is pretty much derailing us from hunting scum. Mafia are probably most inclined to support this assassin in mayor SHIT because #1 it doesnt endanger themselves and #2 they get the benefit of having town deal with fucking assassins all fucking game instead of IGNORING THEM LIKE WE SHOULD and hunting scum. Fuck Pandains prolly the fucking GF What kind of idiot town would claim DT DAY 1 ? WTF.

On April 11 2011 05:30 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 11 2011 05:28 redFF wrote:
I see no reason for any mayor or pardoner to ever reveal the 2 bodyguards. Ever.

BUT WE CAN CATCH ASSASSINS!

On April 11 2011 05:35 Coagulation wrote:
we havnt even voted pandain into office and he has already fucked town in the ass by claiming DT and holding our fucking decision hostage. if this isnt a fucking prelude to the disaster that is pandain for mayor i dont know what is.

On April 11 2011 05:43 Coagulation wrote:
as much as i would like to see pandain dead asap. apparently hes a DT so now we have to keep him alive as long as possible. the gods are cruel.

On April 11 2011 05:48 Coagulation wrote:
Chaoser dont edit u scummy fuck

On April 11 2011 05:51 Coagulation wrote:
YA u did i watched it.

On April 11 2011 06:43 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 11 2011 06:22 BrownBear wrote:
This is already starting to get too personal for my liking, particularly in the attacks on Pandain. Please manner up, guys, and stop insulting each others' intelligence, just keep arguments focused on the game.



stupid host ruining our fun.



Warning #1 (not particularly at Coagulation, but he still should have been on notice)


On April 11 2011 07:32 Coagulation wrote:
WHO THE FUCK YOU CALLING RUDE

On April 11 2011 08:28 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 11 2011 08:25 urashimakt wrote:
Is there any merit to handpicking someone who hasn't proclaimed their candidacy, but has received pro-town reads from most people?


This doesnt work. it ends up splitting the votes and giving mafia control of election.

On April 11 2011 09:05 Coagulation wrote:
Redff you been fucking calling everyone scum left and right.
we get it. your the only town in game we get it.

Its pretty clear when the candidates are
#1 Assassin UMM IM NOT GONNA EXPLAIN WHY VOTING HIM IS BAD. NOPE.
#2 Pandain LETS SEE FAKE DT CLAIM DAY1 AND WANTS ASSASSIN IN MAYOR SEAT. NOPE
#3 Doch TO BUSY SHITTING ON ENTIRE TOWN TO FORMULATE A PLAN. NOPE.
#4 Chaoser WANTS ASSASSIN AS PARDONER REALLY REALLY FUCKING BAD. NOPE.
#5 KAVDRAGON. The only other REASONABLE Candidate aside from GM but Doch is putting me off of him.
#6 Only player that has a town read from majority of players And isnt acting retarted. OK!

Sit the fuck down redFF

I would have considered modkilling him right here.
On April 11 2011 09:12 Coagulation wrote:
to be fair i would like to see GM as mayor and Doch as pardoner.

On April 11 2011 10:27 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 11 2011 10:22 redFF wrote:
On April 11 2011 10:15 kevconsim wrote:
i dont think there is a scum bandwagon for GM. I think people trust him more. I think other people who havent played before are seeing others endorse him and jumping on.


Well i didn't say it was a scum bandwagon,you said that, just a bandwagon. and that is what i mean, there are sheep right now.




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On April 11 2011 08:42 redFF wrote:
On April 11 2011 07:49 kevconsim wrote:
I think i have decided that the safe bet is too put gmarshal in their.

##Vote Gmarshal for mayor


Oh yeah that just happened

throwing it out there right now
I THINK GMARSHALL IS SCUM, as well as a number of his voters including M0nsterChef, Kevconsim and Original name, although everyone in my first gmarshall vote count post is officially fos by me


WAT?

On April 11 2011 10:29 Coagulation wrote:
I LOVE HOW redFF TAKES THE TIME TO BOLD HIS CONTRADICTIONS AS HE POSTS TO SAVE ME TIME WHEN QUOTING THEM.

On April 11 2011 14:28 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 11 2011 14:00 Protactinium wrote:
please elect me or I will die. I will do anything and say anything to get elected because frankly if I dont get elected I auto lose.


here I shortened your platform up for you.

On April 12 2011 05:42 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 12 2011 05:16 aidnai wrote:
Gmarshal: 9
DoctorHelvetica
Lanaia
Robellicose
Coagulation
OriginalName
Mig
AirbladeOrange
M0nsterChef
kevconsim
darmousseh
Kenpachi
Serejai

Current voters for Gmarhsal. How do you attract all the lurkers and noobs GM? it's like magic...

Seriously, serejai, AO, kev, need to post more.


is it really hard to understand why newbies who dont know what to do vote for the person that everyone else is voting for?

On April 12 2011 07:21 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 12 2011 07:16 tnkted wrote:
GM I was ok with your earlier ideas but your later ones are extremely scummy.
1. Lynching the pardoner? Are you serious? You backed off it quickly but I don't know how you could ever possibly think that removing half of the town's 'safe from night kill' roles would ever be a good idea.
2. Posting a list of what the blues should be doing? Extremely stupid, tells the mafia who they should avoid. Lists like that are only useful when we're dealing with a crowd half this size. If you were mafia that list would help you by getting all of the blues to focus their powers in one area, which you can easily avoid. Anyone you leave off the list is guarrenteed to be killable!
3. Calling vig hits on pandain? He's probably a blue that was stupid enough to announce himself in front of everybody, hes done nothing but lurk since then. Anybody in this thread with half a brain is aware of his role now, why could you possibly want to kill him? If you were mafia calling a vig hit on pandain would be the smartest thing you could do, since he would be saving you a hit at night.

I'm not saying you're town, but the conspiracy theorist part of my brain is going nuts with thoughts about how you and protract are mafia, and protract is getting bussed to get you into the mayors position.

TLDR; GMs ideas are horrible and I can't support his campaign. I withdraw my candidacy, my vote right now is more important than providing a valuable alternative.

I can't believe I'm typing this. ##vote DrH


Also everybody, about Serejai: I play SC2 with him sometimes and I am/was part of the TL minecraft server, and Serejai is the biggest troll I've ever seen. He was fucking with you. I don't know what hes doing this game but hes hard to read. As he posts more I'll be happy to translate into english for you. :D


The pardoner can be a dangerous tool in the hands of a mafia. It essentially gives the mafia an extra night of kills that we cant do shit about. think about it all the way before blowing a gasket.

On April 12 2011 10:12 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 12 2011 09:33 Conversion wrote:
Well, I'll be frank. I don't like DocH. He comes off right off the bat as an asshole that was acting aggressively to draw responses, as some of you have stated (kav in particular) in your posts.

However, I am not going to let something so trivial deter my vote. He also taught me something, albeit small, most of you attempting to help have not by pointing out that my defense was not very town-like. I'm very confident that, after reading Doc's posts, DocH is green.

Though I disagree with his first lynch (kav), I feel like a more experienced townie in a mayor position would be more beneficial. I have not been able to read his past games- and no one answered my questions- so I'll take the word from a few of you that DocH actually does have an aggressive town meta in a few of his games.

With that said,
##vote DoctorHelvetica


WHAT THE FUCK.
You disagree with lynching kav but your gonna vote him anyway.

On April 12 2011 10:13 Coagulation wrote:
HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU GUYS BE OK WITH LYNCHING KAV NIGHT 1?

On April 12 2011 10:19 Coagulation wrote:
HOW ABOUT ANY OF THE COUNTLESS SCUMMY LURKERS?
HOW ABOUT NOT A SEASONED ANALYZER AND ACTIVE POSTER DAY 1? ANYONE WE DONT HAVE META ON OR SOMEONE USELESS TO TOWN?

DOES IT REALLY NEED SAID?

I would have warned him about all caps posting here.
On April 12 2011 10:24 Coagulation wrote:

Im gonna need VERification of this in the rules. It doesnt sound VERy true.

On April 12 2011 10:31 Coagulation wrote:
+10 townie points for twinkles.

On April 12 2011 10:37 Coagulation wrote:
IM JUST GONNA THROW THIS OUT THERE
MY FIRST GAME WITH DOCH

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From: DoctorHelvetica [ 10745 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: hey bro im sorry
Date: 10/25/10 13:48
i wasnt trying to be a dick to you to be rude but because its my strategy to get people riled up since i'm mafia in that game

don't take it personally. i remember my first game i played with really experienced played like ace and everyone came off as such a douche, it's just the nature of the game

no hard feelings :3

Reply

On April 12 2011 10:38 Coagulation wrote:


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From: DoctorHelvetica [ 10745 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: hey bro im sorry
Date: 10/25/10 13:48
i wasnt trying to be a dick to you to be rude but because its my strategy to get people riled up since i'm mafia in that game

don't take it personally. i remember my first game i played with really experienced played like ace and everyone came off as such a douche, it's just the nature of the game

no hard feelings :3

Reply

JUST SAYING FOR ALL YOU NEWBS GOING "LOL DOCH IS PLAYING PRO TOWN"

I would have told him to stop calling people "newbs."
On April 12 2011 10:41 Coagulation wrote:
I just dont want to see fucking Kavdragon get lynched day 1.
its fucking stupid. there are better options.
Hes been an asset to town before.

On April 12 2011 11:06 Coagulation wrote:
Fuck no i dont

On April 12 2011 12:52 Coagulation wrote:
OP SAYS
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Time Cycle:
This game will follow a 24 hour night/48 hour day cycle. In case I am not able to post around deadline, any votes after the 48 hour mark will not count and the game will be put on halt until the night post is up. Currently the deadline is MIDNIGHT, US East Time, but that is subject to change.

On April 12 2011 12:57 Coagulation wrote:
LOL MAFIA PROCT LAST MINUTE BANDWAGON ISNT SO LAST MINUTE ANYMORE LOLZ

On April 12 2011 12:59 Coagulation wrote:
CAN YOU GUYS HONESTLY NOT SEE HOW STRANGE IT IS SO MANY PEOPLE SUPPORTING A FUCKING ASSASSIN VEHEMENTLY.

Fucking pandain FAKE DT CLAIMED DAY 1 To promote AN ASSASSIN?? DO YOU RLY THINK HE WOULD DO THAT? PROCT IS MAFIA AND THIS IS HIS LAST SECOND BANDWAGON BUT ITS NOT TOO LATE WE STILL GOT ANOTHER HOUR. VOTE FOR ANYONE BUT PROCT

And this would have been a modkill for all caps posting.
On April 12 2011 13:03 Coagulation wrote:
CAUSE HES NOT ASSASSIN HES MAFIA. IT WAS A FAKE CLAIM TO GAIN CRED
ITS SO SAD. LOOK AT THIS SHIT
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On April 12 2011 12:59 urashimakt wrote:
As mentioned a bit ago, I'm switching my vote back to Prot now that he's here.

##Unvote DrH
##Vote Prot


100% Wishy Washy Last minute scum bandwagon switch. Hes gonna pretend to fucking vote DOCH LOL And switches at last second. BUT HE SWITCHED TOO SOON
THIS IS A LAST SECOND BANDWAGON TO GET MAFIA MAYOR.

On April 12 2011 13:04 Coagulation wrote:
PLEASE OPEN YOUR EYES TOWN.

On April 12 2011 13:22 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 12 2011 13:20 Kenpachi wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:18 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:16 Kenpachi wrote:
mmm looks like something isnt going right. my vote on the wrong guy?


I dont think so, but I am partial to myself since I know my alignment, if you want theres a nice third party assassin that dosn't share our objectives who is just drooling over your vote as his life depends on it.

im against voting Protact cause 1. He has KP
2. Assassins will kill him instead of a townie.
3. A KP disperses from the game entirely
4. The Endgame is easier.


SEE KENPACHI GETS IT.
YOU OTHER GUYS HAVE NO EXCUSE NOW.

On April 12 2011 13:27 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 12 2011 13:25 chaoser wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:22 Coagulation wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:20 Kenpachi wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:18 GMarshal wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:16 Kenpachi wrote:
mmm looks like something isnt going right. my vote on the wrong guy?


I dont think so, but I am partial to myself since I know my alignment, if you want theres a nice third party assassin that dosn't share our objectives who is just drooling over your vote as his life depends on it.

im against voting Protact cause 1. He has KP
2. Assassins will kill him instead of a townie.
3. A KP disperses from the game entirely
4. The Endgame is easier.


SEE KENPACHI GETS IT.
YOU OTHER GUYS HAVE NO EXCUSE NOW.


Everyone's so damn scared of this shit. If prot never came out we'd be in the same situation of assassins shooting into the crowd. What's the difference with him in office? We get to use his powers, assassins will still be shooting into the crowd. His positives outweigh his negatives. By far in my opinion.


He has a NON TOWN WIN CONDITION.

ITS CALLED A CONFLICT OF INTEREST



At this point, BrownBear told people to stop allcaps posting

You really think THIS wasn't worth a modkill/ban? This was terrible. Almost every post is some combination of spam (mostly unrelated to the game), capslock posting, and use of some tense of the word "fuck."

+ Show Spoiler [Night 1] +

On April 12 2011 14:17 Coagulation wrote:
why the fuck did you lynch Kav
Jesus christ i fucking told you it was a shit move.
And im not a fucking assassin. try again.

On April 12 2011 14:23 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 12 2011 13:58 Kavdragon wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:55 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:55 Kavdragon wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:52 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 13:51 M0nsterChef wrote:
Why do people think I'm still scum? Is there anything other than my poor decision at the beginning at the game that suggests that I am? I think a lot of unnecessary pressure has been put on me because of that stupid beginner mistake.

Well it's because you don't really post anything else and now you only show up out of NOWHERE to defend yourself as soon as your name is brought up again. That doesn't look good for you, just sayin.

But kavdragon is the real problem here


I dare you to lynch me. You are so sure that I'm mafia, eh?

I know you won't. You know why? Because you're mafia. There's no need to lynch me and draw suspicion on yourself when you can just kill me tonight.

I promise I will lynch you if I am elected mafia and if I go back I encourage the town to lynch me for it.


Unvote: GMarshal
Vote: Dr.Helvetica


I do this because I know that I don't have the time or the skill to argue with Dr.H.

He's really good with words. Don't let him out of this one, town. Lynch him tomorrow.


WOW this is so ANTI Town its not funny.
Wtf are you thinking KAV..

On April 12 2011 14:41 Coagulation wrote:
This is why im mad

there are 2 possible scenarios

1. Doch is scum = we are fucked regardless.
2. Doch is not scum = He mad a bad lynch against the majority of towns advice (I did everything short of beg him not to lynch kav) Now he has set himself up in a position where town doesnt trust him and mafia are going to capitalize on this. Essentially Doch is going to be made the MAIN DISCUSSION POINT NOW by scum and thats gonna divert town from scumhunting.

Both scenarios are terrible for town. fuck kav why.

On April 12 2011 14:50 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 12 2011 14:44 chaoser wrote:
On April 12 2011 14:29 kitaman27 wrote:
chaoser, why hide your intentions to support DrH in a last second vote?


I didn't hide anything. I said I would vote Prot. You can see that I was slowly getting more and more suspicious of GM as the day went on. His play style is considerably different from what I know of him. It's not like it's a complete change either, it's just slight changes that are more what mafia would do. I'm not sure yet if he is or not but he's on my FoS screen for sure. I changed because I was less suspicious of DrH when compared to GM. Also I knew that Prot would have wanted me to vote DrH anyway cause he feels the exact same way about GM as I do. ON should have been lynched. GM switching to AirBladeOrange in case he got mayor sends off all kinds of scum bells. I'm going to do a PbP of ON soon and I hope to see him lynched tomorrow.


how could you support a day 1 kav lynch. It just baffles me how you could be town and be OK with that.

On April 12 2011 14:52 Coagulation wrote:
I had a town read on marsh all game.
Doch is the only one that made me skeptical with the lynch kav shit.

On April 12 2011 16:49 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 12 2011 14:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 14:22 OriginalName wrote:
On April 12 2011 14:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 12 2011 14:16 OriginalName wrote:
On April 12 2011 14:14 Protactinium wrote:
On April 12 2011 14:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Oh well, I don't know what the fuck he was thinking with his posting. Time to reevaluate and move on. This game is built on the assumption that a townie is lynched day 1 but this is a big confidence loss for me.

But we're even more screwed if I get too upset about this. It is what it is.



Dont worry man there'll be some good surprises for us. Let's get this game started.

And I still believe you are innocent because mafia would never have dared attempt that in the first place. Anyone who suspects him for that flip should heavily consider that.


Thats total WIFOM Mafia could expect that and go for a really ballsy move to kill off a very pro-town player

WIFOM works both ways though. So it doesn't help your argument any.

In fact all behavioral analysis is on some level WIFOM. I hate overuse of WIFOM because it discourages people from thinking.


i hate WIFOM as much as the next guy but really when you kill somebody who made an arguement against you it doesnt help you much.

Also im sorry for my conduct earlier Im kinda biased towards kav from Insane 2 and figured the two styles just didnt line up for me to consider him scum but I still shouldnt of raged like that.

Im still on the fence about you but really dont go balls to the walls on what can be valuble town assets as mayor next time.


I'm actually glad I didn't second guess myself. I was wrong but I've spent my entire "scumhunting" career never sticking to my guns and this kind of confidence is going to make me dangerous when I tighten my analysis up, I think.

Since I know I'm town I'm incredibly wary of anyone who goes out of their way to defame me. That is kind of the lynchpin of why I dislike Barundar's posting in this game. I sort of use it as a jjumping point, because I know the mafia want me out of this game.



ummm your scumhunting is going to make you "dangerous" when you "tighten" your analysis up. When are you planning on doing this? cause if i remember correctly you have fos on me as assassin and you couldnt be farther off base.

regarding the second part of your post
your basically saying right out the gate "anyone that questions my alignment is automatically scum" while there is some truth to this IF you are indeed town. You managed to state it in the scummiest fucking way possible. I for one will be riding your ass and i will not hesitate to call you out on any bullshit i see. just so you know.


"scummiest fucking way possible" and "riding your ass" are both unnacceptable to me. I would warn here.
On April 13 2011 03:50 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 12 2011 23:20 Serejai wrote:
Can a mod please help me with the game objective? I thought we were supposed to kill mafia or assassins but the mayor is killing town instead


Kenpachis got competition.

I know this is a joke, but I can also see someone taking this poorly.


At this point the thread was warned to play nice


On April 13 2011 08:47 Coagulation wrote:
bum help me transfer pokemon

On April 13 2011 08:53 Coagulation wrote:
its code for he left the damn wifi trade room cause its not working some reason

On April 13 2011 09:16 Coagulation wrote:
lol....

On April 13 2011 13:05 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 13 2011 12:57 kevconsim wrote:
On April 13 2011 12:50 GGQ wrote:
That came off harsher than I intended. But seriously, it's dumb to ask why people don't think you're scum. You should never be expecting people to think you're scum...


Well earlier he said that he thought i was scum and i have said nothing since then and now he doesnt think im scum...

Thats dumb


yeah hes not very consistent

On April 13 2011 13:53 Coagulation wrote:
Thx for not stealing my pokemonz bum

On April 13 2011 13:57 Coagulation wrote:
I think that post sounded extremely forced to be honest. He was one of the DOCH late switches. so if they are scum he would feel compelled to distance himself from doch
the old "I regret voting for you doctor mayor."
pretty lame

Very spammy, mostly off topic posting with enough aggression for me to warn him.

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On April 13 2011 16:16 Coagulation wrote:
His only chance to survive is to lie.
This is basically a last ditch attempt nothing to lose Might as well get the person who fucked his scummy plan up lynched in the process.
Right now Protactinium is praying to fucking god he guessed right.
I got bad news for you when i flip your fucked. Your All in will not only get your assassin ass lynched after i die but i hope you will be satisfied with fucking the town and taking them down with you.



On April 13 2011 16:19 Coagulation wrote:
GUYS THINK ABOUT IT. WHAT DOES HE HAVE TO LOSE? NOTHING.
Hes going ALL IN. HE HAS TO. THIS IS 100% EXPECTED. Does anyone expect him to just sit around and wait till he dies night 2? Fuck no hes not hes gonna do anything he fucking can to give himself a chance to stay in the game.

DONT BUY THIS SHIT. IM TOWN. I WANT A FUCKING REAL DT CHECK.

And this would be a ban for cursing/capslock abuse.
On April 13 2011 16:30 Coagulation wrote:
Im Vigi

I got an easy solution here. WATCH ASSASSINS RAPE HIM NIGHT 2. He Flips assassin or scum IM CLEARED. ITS SO SIMPLE.

On April 13 2011 16:30 Coagulation wrote:
sorry i ment Vet
i got my V's mixed up
Im fucking infuriated that he would fucking lie like this.

On April 13 2011 16:36 Coagulation wrote:
You guys are really gonna buy this shit?
"we would announce our checks to town" What the fuck?

On April 13 2011 16:38 Coagulation wrote:
YOUR NOT A DT
WHAT THE FUCK
YOU KNOW YOU MADE ALL THIS SHIT UP

On April 13 2011 16:48 Coagulation wrote:
Why the fuck would a experienced player like FW ever claim to be an assassin when hes a DT. Do you really think he would put that kind of heat on himself if he was honestly a PRO TOWN ROLE.
This whole thing reeks of desperate scum

On April 13 2011 16:56 Coagulation wrote:
I ment scum as in assassin.
DOCH please use your head man. are you really surprised hes pulling this?

On April 13 2011 17:14 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 13 2011 17:00 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 13 2011 16:56 Coagulation wrote:
I ment scum as in assassin.
DOCH please use your head man. are you really surprised hes pulling this?

he has nothing to gain from this as assassin

i thought about it. if you are assassin and we lynch you and he hits kitaman27 (or whoever he thinks is the next assassin) he's pretty much guaranteed to be killed that same night. if there are 3 assassins this would result in a TIE

the only way this makes sense is if there are two assassins. if protact was assassin he would know that and lynching you is a way to get you killed without letting you take him down as well. That way he can win his game and he is transported out immediately.


Hes gambling im RED so he can get MED PROTECT
HE DIDNT DT CHECK ME
I FUCKING KNOW THIS
LET THE ASSASSIN DIE NIGHT 2
I would love to be DT checked night 2 and have this cleared up without the town losing a town role in the process.

Give me till night 2 to prove i am town.
I CAN PROVE IT.

On April 13 2011 17:19 Coagulation wrote:
I CAN PROVE IT WHEN Protactinium FLIPS ASSASSIN
THEN U GUYS CAN DT CHECK ME FOR ALL I FUCKING CARE.
ITS JUST IF U GIVE ME 1 NIGHT
THIS WILL RESOLVE ITSELF. DONT LYNCH A TOWNIE CAUSE AN ASSASSIN IS SPEWING LIES TO STAY ALIVE.

He is defending himself, so this is somewhat understandable. I would probably warn him to calm down though.
On April 13 2011 17:21 Coagulation wrote:
HES NOT DT
o god im so pissed.

On April 13 2011 17:22 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 13 2011 17:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 13 2011 17:19 Coagulation wrote:
I CAN PROVE IT WHEN Protactinium FLIPS ASSASSIN
THEN U GUYS CAN DT CHECK ME FOR ALL I FUCKING CARE.
ITS JUST IF U GIVE ME 1 NIGHT
THIS WILL RESOLVE ITSELF. DONT LYNCH A TOWNIE CAUSE AN ASSASSIN IS SPEWING LIES TO STAY ALIVE.

If your plan is to claim vig i'm not impressed

because that won't actually prove shit

and that's the only role that can do anything like "prove" itself unless you're about to make some insane calleresque claim


I already told you guys im vet.
I dont have to do anything.
The assassins will fucking kill prot night 2
THAT SHOULD BE PRETTY OBVIOUS HE DIDNT DT CHECK ME AT THAT POINT.
AND IT WOULD BE FANTASTIC IF YOU WOULD HOLD ME TO A DT CHECK NIGHT 2 ALSO.

On April 13 2011 17:26 Coagulation wrote:
I havnt been lying to town all game.
wouldnt it make sense to give me the benefit of the doubt.
LAL


On April 13 2011 17:27 Coagulation wrote:
yes my role is vet

On April 13 2011 17:31 Coagulation wrote:
I dunno what to tell you Doch
Have fun lynching another townie.

On April 13 2011 17:33 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 13 2011 17:31 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
If anyone thinks I'm full of it right now (because scum is so desperate to get coagulation lynched am i right????)

I used this bait just earlier
On April 13 2011 11:24 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 13 2011 11:23 bumatlarge wrote:
Whatever makes things difficult for you.

That's not a very pro-town attitude. I'm asking if you're claiming veteran or joking. Answer the question.



If bumatlarge claimed veteran I hoped to nail him for it. But he didn't which secured my trust in him quite a bit.


DT CHECK ME. IM A VET
TAKE UP THE DISTRIBUTION OF ROLES WITH THE HOST.

On April 13 2011 17:34 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 13 2011 17:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 13 2011 17:31 Coagulation wrote:
I dunno what to tell you Doch
Have fun lynching another townie.

It's a collective decision this time. If you were in my position you'd make the same choice, you don't just write off a DT check claim on day 2.


ITS NOT A GODAMN DT CHECK
HE COULDNT DT CHECK ME AND HAVE IT COME BACK RED
ITS AN IMPOSSIBILITY.

On April 13 2011 17:37 Coagulation wrote:
Just remember when i flip YOU GUYS WILL SEE HE HAS LIED ABOUT THIS
YOU WILL SEE HE COULD NOT DT CHECK ME AND GET RED
Hope your happy FW you
Nice fucking lie. ( AND YOU DAMN WELL KNOW YOU FUCKING LIED)
hope you enjoy it.

On April 13 2011 17:37 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 13 2011 17:35 ilovejonn wrote:
On April 13 2011 17:34 Coagulation wrote:
On April 13 2011 17:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 13 2011 17:31 Coagulation wrote:
I dunno what to tell you Doch
Have fun lynching another townie.

It's a collective decision this time. If you were in my position you'd make the same choice, you don't just write off a DT check claim on day 2.


ITS NOT A GODAMN DT CHECK
HE COULDNT DT CHECK ME AND HAVE IT COME BACK RED
ITS AN IMPOSSIBILITY.

Are you saying you're Godfather now?


NO IM A VET WTF.

On April 13 2011 17:40 Coagulation wrote:
HE DOESNT HAVE TO BE SURE. HES GOT NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO MAKE A GUESS.
AND GUESS WHO HE GUESSES.
THE PERSON WHO HAS MULTIPLE "ASSASSIN READS" FROM DOCH AND OTHERS.
THIS IS ALL A GAMBLE.

On April 13 2011 17:45 Coagulation wrote:
at least when i flip he will be exposed AS A LIER.

hey flamewheel MARK MY WORDS YOUR FUCKED AT FLIP.

On April 13 2011 17:48 Coagulation wrote:
yeah and he *HOPES* his guess was RIGHT so he gets Med protect UNFORTUNATELY FOR HIM ITS WRONG.

On April 13 2011 17:52 Coagulation wrote:
why are you gonna listen to someone who has already PROVED he has no problems MANIPULATING AND LYING TO TOWN.

On April 13 2011 17:58 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 13 2011 17:55 chaoser wrote:
On April 13 2011 17:52 Coagulation wrote:
why are you gonna listen to someone who has already PROVED he has no problems MANIPULATING AND LYING TO TOWN.


I remember in XXXVII you were perfectly ok with doing this with LSB's fake bait n' switch plan



LSB didnt lie to the entire town
The truth was in the town circle.

This is completely different

On April 13 2011 17:59 Coagulation wrote:
Flamewheel when i flip your lie is exposed.
This is all for nothing just so you know.

On April 13 2011 18:01 Coagulation wrote:
I want you to feel that Flamewheel.
FEEL IT. THINK IT LONG AND HARD.
You damn well know you took a GAMBLE. And you lost buddy.
Its a shame you had to take me down with you. but you lost.

On April 13 2011 18:11 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 13 2011 18:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Protact would choose his #1 black target to make a scum analysis on. I have a hard time believing he thought Chaoser was assassin over kitaman27.

If he's black and wrong, we don't lynch him. We certainly don't protect him. He simply dies night 2 and we take the loss in stride and move on.

On April 13 2011 18:04 urashimakt wrote:
On April 13 2011 18:01 Coagulation wrote:
I want you to feel that Flamewheel.
FEEL IT. THINK IT LONG AND HARD.
You damn well know you took a GAMBLE. And you lost buddy.
Its a shame you had to take me down with you. but you lost.

I look forward to his next claim, if that turns out to be the case.

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Original Message From BrownBear:
Yes, there is a hidden role not mentioned in the OP. Don't tell anyone, but:

The Prismatist - You are the Prismatist. Once and only once per day/night cycle, you may make a role claim. If you manage to claim a red, black, green, and blue role before being hit or lynched, you win. You will be removed from the main game.

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Original Message From urashimakt:
Is there a hidden role? Come on now, truthsies.


Goodnight.


Uh please confirm that this is a joke

Sorry im not willing to "take the loss in stride" when an assassin is spreading lies about me.

On April 13 2011 18:15 Coagulation wrote:
Man how can you not see he has lied to stay in the game?
ITS HIS ONLY PLAY HE HAS AVAILABLE.

On April 13 2011 18:17 Coagulation wrote:
He spent the entire day 1 writing fucking walls and walls and walls of text about him being an assassin. DO you really think he was gonna get elected and say "OOPS" TOWN I LIED.
YOU CANT CHECK ME NOW BUT LOL I LIED ABOUT ALL THAT HAHA HOPE YOU ALL DONT MIND.

GET WITH THE PROGRAM

On April 13 2011 18:25 Coagulation wrote:
Why the fuck would flamewheel claim to be an assassin if he is a DT. IF HE WAS A DT DONT YOU THINK HE WOULD JUST PUSH HIS CAMPAIGN BASED ON HIM BEING A GODAMN TOWNIE AND JUST PLAY PRO TOWN AND GET IN SAFE. hell half the fucking TOWN wanted to vote him as MAYOR WHEN THEY KNEW HE WAS A GODAMN ASSASSIN. DO YOU KNOW HOW EASY HE COULD HAVE GOTTEN MAYOR IF HE DIDNT CLAIM ASSASSIN. Do you really think he would FAKE CLAIM ASSASSIN TO GET ELECTED IF HE WAS A GODAMN DT. HOW DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE?


Warn
On April 13 2011 18:26 Coagulation wrote:
Its Completely Illogical.
How is town buying this.

On April 13 2011 18:31 Coagulation wrote:
Thats what im saying.
The only reason he WOULD EVER claim ASSASSIN to get MAYOR IS IF HE WAS A GODAMN ASSASSIN IN THE FIRST PLACE.

THINK ABOUT IT.

On April 13 2011 18:38 Coagulation wrote:
Fuck that thats stupid as fuck
DONT WASTE A FUCKING MED ON HIM. LET HIM DIE.

On April 14 2011 07:06 Coagulation wrote:
I just find it fucking hilarious that the entire time he was running for mayor I was questioning the fact that we have a conflict of interest in win conditions and his entire premise was "i would never manipulate town for my own win condition blahblahblah" And here he is manipulating town for his own win condition. BIG FUCKING I TOLD YOU SO TO EVERYONE WHO VOTED HIM.



At this point, Coag in particular was given a final warning to stop with the personal attacks, flaming, and allcaps.
On April 14 2011 07:13 Coagulation wrote:
Anyway I defended myself last night. I think everyone knows whats happening now and understand that it falls on me to help find a more reasonable alternatives for the town to pursue. So i will be posting analysis soon. If the very least i can do is not allow town to get side tracked by Flamewheels lies while i wait and see what happens so be it.

On April 14 2011 07:45 Coagulation wrote:
I 100% agree. Reans reaction to this bullshit dt claim was super aggressive Its like he wanted to bandwagon and disregard any discussion. Every pro town player i have seen so far has questioned flamewheels illogical claims on one level or another. Rean didnt post like a cautious townie looking for the truth. He responded like a Scum taking advantage of the town mislynch.

On April 14 2011 11:05 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 14 2011 10:17 Protactinium wrote:
On April 13 2011 18:17 aidnai wrote:
hmm... lots of people missing from this conversation. I'm gonna give it a rest and see what's up tomorrow.

SCUMMY LURKER LIST
latrommi
Milkyst <- 1 post + 1 vote lol
jaminz
serejai
rean

none of these players are interacting with the game in any meaningful way. Scared of imba scumtells much?

depending on activity levels as today progresses, we might get a nice vig shot on one of these, I'm thinking milkyst.
His only post proves he's been reading the thread (look at bolded part), but all he can say is he wants to lynch redFF because he's a 'little bit suspicious'. 1 post and 1 vote per day keeps the modkill away right?

goodnight everybody.


Trying to derail the lynch. How cute. You’re going to have to make a bigger splash if you want to be successful though. The list is laughable: earlier you didn’t give an opinion on Coagulation other than maybe lynching him. But now that he's in the spotlight you turn around and ignore the whole Coagulation thing, offering over and over again to lynch an inctive instead. Inactive over scummy? Please…

For everyone trying to discredit the Coagulation as scummy: Coagulation is not “unreadable”. Its fairly easy to differentiate when he is town and when he is mafia. As I stated in my analysis, one thing that has been strikingly absent from this game is Coagulation actively and fearlessly pointing out scum. Check out any prior game where Coagulation is town. He has no problems pointing out who he thinks is scum. On the other hand, in this game, he hasn’t accused any mafia with conviction. Yes, it is true that even as town, Coagulation doesn’t post any analysis. But that doesn’t stop him just saying “X is mafia”. Notice how that is not present in this game either. It doesn’t matter that he defended Kavdragon. Mafia know that information anyways, so it isn’t a big shocker.

Coagulation isn’t acting like he normally does when he’s town. He viciously attacked my candidacy, which is a pro-mafia move. The timings of his posts are suspicious. Every one of his actions fit with mafia objectives. His defense of himself after my accusation is just terrible. His vet claim is laughable too. He said he could prove being vet. But that isn’t possible unless a vig shoots him. And how does he know there are any vets left? Obviously, he doesn’t. He’s just stalling for time. Notice how when everyone ignored his vet claim, he got even more desperate and asked for a DT check. Guess what, I already checked him! He’s obviously in a panic. Everyone trying to save him by suggesting that they wait until I flip first is just trying to stall for time. If you take a step back and think about it for a moment, Coagulation is clearly mafia.

Everyone stop bickering and focus on the real issue at hand, which is the Coagulation lynch. Everything else can wait until tomorrow.


Just so you know your fucked when i flip. people are gonna know your not DT. whatever tho. as long as your going down for your shitty lie im not gonna stress it. you took a gamble and you hit the wrong fucking person. lol. Bravo.


Threatening another player. He's defending himself, but this is still too much, especially after a warning from BrownBear directed specifically at him.
On April 14 2011 11:14 Coagulation wrote:
Hey flamewheel why you such a fucking lier?

And this would be a modkill.
On April 14 2011 12:35 Coagulation wrote:
clever

On April 14 2011 13:22 Coagulation wrote:
Or heres a better idea how about we dont let assassin call shots for town.

llemme point out examples of your lies cause you seem to not get how bad you failed

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I have been completely transparent

LOL "OK" Clearly not considering your trying to lie that you lied to town. another lie.

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Think about GMarshal's overall profile. What is he trying to do? From day 1, notice how he does not express support for any candidate other than himself.


LIE

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On April 11 2011 03:48 GMarshal wrote:

##Vote: Kitaman27


Oh look thats the opposite of what you said

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On April 10 2011 12:06 GMarshal wrote:
On April 10 2011 12:03 Kavdragon wrote:
I would also like to announce my campaign for mayor. I didn't write up anything fancy this game for my platform, nor will I copy-past it from a previous game.

I offer the experience that I have gained from previously being mayor.

I offer strong leadership, something that already demonstrated in XXXVI, but I have worked on and further improved on since then.

I offer my skills as an analyst. My analysis in XXXVI was key to the town's victory, and while I have not had the chance to demonstrate it since then, I have been talking with veteran players (Ver, BC, and Foolishness) constantly since then about how I can improve my play, and analysis.

I will be offering my ideas, opinions, and thoughts openly to make my alignment clear to the town.

I offer victory for the town.

Vote for Kav!


My campaign has prettier pictures than yours! Also if you are elected and I'm stuck as a bg again I'll have an aneurysm!

That said, gentlemen don't vote for themselves and I'd be happy to have you as a pardoner with me

##Vote Kavdragon


This is proof your not actually making a solid analysis your just grasping for straws.

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Look at the suspicious votes GMarshal gets. There are countless lurkers and inactives who vote GMarshal without explaining why. And as you recall, GMarshal was the first one out the gate, and managed to obtain a sizable lead early on in the race, while everyone else was stuck at less than 4 votes.


This game is filled with new players. no shit there is sheeping.

you know what im not even gonna respond to your lies anymore im done. its clear GMarsh just raped your fake DT claim and now your just trying TO OMGUS him. its sad.
You wanna talk about how much your a DT with me SAVE IT TILL POSTGAME.
you wont be so inclined to type WALLS of lies anymore and you can stop wasting everyones time.

Stop picking on new players.
On April 14 2011 13:27 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 14 2011 13:16 chaoser wrote:
On April 13 2011 16:30 Coagulation wrote:
Im Vigi

I got an easy solution here. WATCH ASSASSINS RAPE HIM NIGHT 2. He Flips assassin or scum IM CLEARED. ITS SO SIMPLE.



On April 13 2011 16:30 Coagulation wrote:
sorry i ment Vet
i got my V's mixed up
Im fucking infuriated that he would fucking lie like this.


I still find this scummy as fuck btw. I'll sleep on this, will vote tomorrow



Look at the time stamps
it was a typo

On April 15 2011 04:38 Coagulation wrote:
well as long as me being flipped reveals the assassin is manipulating town and proves hes assassin
im fine with being lynched.

On April 15 2011 04:39 Coagulation wrote:
you might be taking me down
But im taking your ass down with me flamewheel.
your gonna be so fucking full of holes by night 2 your gonna look like swiss cheese.

On April 15 2011 04:51 Coagulation wrote:
why would scum shoot him?
Assassins will take care of him.

On April 15 2011 07:44 Coagulation wrote:
Im all for lynching LSB instead of me.

On April 15 2011 10:01 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 09:59 CubEdIn wrote:
Sorry, I'll go with my gut and vote coag.

Coag, this is not about you, it's about no mafia/assasin would claim a DT just to survive a night imo.


Cubed hes not a DT im telling you this honest hes the assassin.

On April 15 2011 10:04 Coagulation wrote:
lol Protactinium playing his little heart out with his gamble.
hes not gonna be telling town hes DT anymore when I flip.


On April 15 2011 10:23 Coagulation wrote:
I dont want to vote LSB either but i dont know for sure if hes town or not.
I KNOW IM TOWN SO.. if its me or him its gonna be him.

On April 15 2011 10:25 Coagulation wrote:
I Think a pardon would clear this whole mess up.
Pardon whoever gets lynched Me or LSB
And watch assassin flip black tonight.
I can assure town he WILL flip black.



Right here the Protactinium situation comes out. All of the posts before this were unaffected by Coagulation's feelings on that situation.


On April 15 2011 10:27 Coagulation wrote:
yeah thats against the rules.
Probably get modkilled.

On April 15 2011 10:28 Coagulation wrote:
Well im not gonna NOT ask for pardon
AS town it would be pretty stupid to not plead my case.

On April 15 2011 10:32 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 10:34 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 10:31 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:29 Lemonwalrus wrote:
It is at least 3, I will have all the proof you need as soon as it is confirmed that this is against the rules and will get them modkilled.


Smurfs are supposed to have checked in with the host before the game has begun, so if it's true, then BB probably knows about it. Also, aren't strategic modkills not allowed?


its not strategic if hes cheating.

On April 15 2011 10:52 Coagulation wrote:
Gmarsh please think about it.
I think flamewheel has fucked it up enough for town.
If hes cheating hes gonna be modkilled.
HE WILL BE ASSASSIN when he flips.
DT CHECK ME
DT CHECK LSB




On April 15 2011 11:07 Coagulation wrote:
please gmarshal

On April 15 2011 11:12 Coagulation wrote:
Sorry Gmarsh if you dont pardon me i gotta Vote you.

On April 15 2011 11:19 Coagulation wrote:
No hes trying to not let town Mislynch but you guys are too fucking sheep to realize it.

Stop insulting other players.
On April 15 2011 11:51 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 11:44 flamewheel wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:44 bumatlarge wrote:
On April 15 2011 11:36 Qatol wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:45 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:43 Lemonwalrus wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:42 Jackal58 wrote:
On April 15 2011 10:38 Lemonwalrus wrote:
If that is cheating, please modkill them, if you believe I have cheated in revealing this, modkill me.

Only Proact is in the game. Non issue.

No one is allowed to PM. This is 3 people communicating outside of the game. I believe that this is cheating.

I won't play in a game where 3 vets are allowed to share an account. What an overwhelming advantage.

This is a known issue and is under control. Focus on the game and let BrownBear, Meapak, and myself work on this, please.


I, for one, find this hilarious. I'd love to hear the backstory behind this one later

I'll explain after the game o.0
It's actually quite simple.


Iv been getting drilled by 3 mafia vets on one account. Sounds pretty simple.
Im also extremely amused that all 3 of you committed to all those lies.

On April 15 2011 11:53 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 11:51 M0nsterChef wrote:
#Vote Coagulation

Although I really think LSB might be sum with his rather anti town plan.

Man and you guys say im playing scummy?

On April 15 2011 12:00 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 11:58 DropBear wrote:
Marshal you are on my scum team as well. Your sheep have jumped onto Coag as soon as the accusation came out.
Noone seems to be listening to me at all. I am happy to change my Kenpachi vote to you if I can't convince anyone otherwise.



LOL SCUM SLIP?

On April 15 2011 12:02 Coagulation wrote:
No your just repeating what i said. thats scummy.

On April 15 2011 12:04 Coagulation wrote:
And your back to being useless.

I don't know if this is a joke, but people can definitely take it the wrong way.
On April 15 2011 12:04 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 12:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
that is not a scum slip

"scum team" as in people he suspects of being scum. he's pretty obviously saying something to the effect of "you're on my list". don't be so desperate.

gmarshal is getting lynched and not you anyway so why do you care



Why do i care? Cause im looking for scum?
Wtf are you thinking?

On April 15 2011 12:34 Coagulation wrote:
we need to take a look at wiggles if GMarsh flips scum. He seemed to make a bunch of fake analysis on him that seemed fluffy.
Also M0nsterChef
Monsterchef has supported Gmarsh unquestionably all game.

On April 15 2011 12:55 Coagulation wrote:
I have a town read on kenpachi



Right here is where the pardon fiasco happens. All posts before this were unaffected.
On April 15 2011 13:05 Coagulation wrote:
Wtf?

On April 15 2011 13:05 Coagulation wrote:
AirbladeOrange isnt even getting lynched

He spent most of the game defending himself, but he was still too aggressive about it in my opinion. When the pressure was taken off him a little, he went right back to spamming.

+ Show Spoiler [Night 2] +



[b]Right here was where he talked to me/meapak on IRC. All posts before this were unaffected by Meapak telling him to spam.


On April 15 2011 14:56 Coagulation wrote:
Guys im subbing out
sorry

On April 15 2011 15:33 Coagulation wrote:
SO YOU NEW PEOPLE HAVING FUN YET?

On April 15 2011 15:35 Coagulation wrote:
Guys We should lynch Milkyst I Might be 100% Sure hes scum

On April 15 2011 15:35 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 15:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 15 2011 15:32 bumatlarge wrote:
Mafia doesn't threaten to pardon a blue after he says he will never use the pardon. Coag is scum obviously, and needs a vig.

No worries Dr. H, I'm not gonna send you to the chopping block anytime soon, but I you have a red tinted glow. It's matches your eyes. I've done jack shit on LSB, so whatever analyses people have on him would be cool. I'm gonna chill this night, so I can die happy if I do.

I'll repost a better version of mine for you during the day. No need for big scum cases tonight.

VIG COAGULATION


THAT WONT WORK IM VET

On April 15 2011 15:36 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 15:35 Kenpachi wrote:
On April 15 2011 15:35 Coagulation wrote:
Guys We should lynch Milkyst I Might be 100% Sure hes scum

who?


EXACTLY

On April 15 2011 15:36 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 15:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On April 15 2011 15:35 Coagulation wrote:
Guys We should lynch Milkyst I Might be 100% Sure hes scum

this sounds more like the scum coagulation i know

JUST LIKE OLD TIMES

On April 15 2011 16:13 Coagulation wrote:
No dont do it Im a DT.

On April 15 2011 16:15 Coagulation wrote:
No i lied about being a Vet to Trap scum.
DOCH FELL FOR IT HES SCUM.

On April 15 2011 16:17 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 16:14 sleepy1 wrote:
I thought you were a doctor?


also lol @ wrong game buddy.

On April 15 2011 16:27 Coagulation wrote:
well It worked for flamewheel

He was warned not to talk about this situation until after the game....
On April 15 2011 17:00 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 15 2011 16:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
vig hit coagulation


MEDICS make sure you prot flamewheel tonight
He really is DT.

On April 15 2011 17:04 Coagulation wrote:
I Cant believe you guys let me and GMarsh convince town he didnt DT check me

On April 15 2011 17:06 Coagulation wrote:
Also props to LSB for coming up with the Gmarsh Medic claim.
That was brilliant.

And now he's just whining.
On April 15 2011 17:17 Coagulation wrote:
You would have to ask them. Kenpachi seems to think he can still win but i tried telling him its hopeless.

On April 15 2011 17:17 Coagulation wrote:
If only that meddling DT Flamewheel hadnt of ruined my plans.

On April 15 2011 17:33 Coagulation wrote:
Yeah he was giving me tips in the mafia IRC but i didnt listen.

On April 15 2011 17:45 Coagulation wrote:
lol redFF got banned.

On April 15 2011 17:47 Coagulation wrote:
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redFF was just temp banned for 30 days by Nyovne.

That account was created on 2010-11-08 09:10:09 and had 632 posts.

Reason: "You won't be missed idiot." as your latest contribution to this site amongst a host of personal attacks, aggressive posting, contentless posts, image macro's, bad grammar and spelling let alone punctuation and proper capitalisation and that's where we enter the domain of 90%+ of your posts being nothing but youtubes or non capitalised and punctuated one liners or single world posts.

Please take this as a very last chance to participate in this community. When this ban runs out we expect you to substantially shape up your posting quality.


I bet hes blue.

On April 15 2011 17:51 Coagulation wrote:
Im gonna go out on a limb here and say hes probably not considered a shining beacon of posting standards outside of mafia forum either.

On April 16 2011 03:51 Coagulation wrote:
So you guys wanna know whos gonna die tonight?

On April 16 2011 04:38 Coagulation wrote:
Scum BLUE Reads.

Protactinium - Confirmed DT bang bang MEDICS better Ptotect.

Lemonwalrus - good chance hes lurking blue.

kitaman27 - Has had a higher investment in this game than his usual playstyle.

Jackal58 - Hasnt tunneled a single time so hes clearly laying low this game. Might be assassin but he was pretty vocal about the other assassin being elected so that leaves blue.

CubEdIn - slight blue read on him. He came back into thread wanting blood so hes gonna be a good kill regardless to get the experienced players out of here.

bumAtLarge - Good analyzer but I think hes just a townie. Would be a good shot if you can stop him from catching scum.

LSB - Are we pretending your town still? ok you can be a blue again. (100$ says he cant resist all the role claims and claims super DT before im lynched)



On April 16 2011 04:41 Coagulation wrote:
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On April 16 2011 04:09 urashimakt wrote:
On April 16 2011 03:51 Coagulation wrote:
So you guys wanna know whos gonna die tonight?

Well it's against the rules to go against your own win condition, so anything you offer is probably B.S. The last several pages have been pretty lamentable, but I'm pretty confident the mafia team hasn't lost yet despite the actions of a couple of its less discerning members. Please don't give up, no matter what team you're on. Play it through!

R.I.P. redFF


oh dont you worry . I will be bringing the heat tonight.


On April 16 2011 04:46 Coagulation wrote:
Rean your scummy as fuck. We can use someone like you. We got a few spots open.

This is where he got modkilled.

Read this and then please make an argument that the standard punishment is not justified. Just remember that he would have gotten 3 games if he had failed to vote. There is even an easy person to compare disruptiveness with - Milkyst. Ask yourself "which is more disruptive?" If you still think a one game ban is the correct call, but you think this is worse than just going inactive, please suggest a change to the system.



In light of the extra discussion, I am leaving this discussion open until Thursday or Friday (depending on how I'm feeling after my last exam)
Uff Da
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
April 27 2011 00:40 GMT
#1349
I was in that game. My anger at the moment was on the FIV triumvirate revelations. When Proact switched from "Assassin" to "DT" it irritated me. I had a case on GM and Coag. But I felt that I could no longer pursue it due to it appearing that I was supporting a player that had blatantly lied. That frustrated me and I posted several times to that affect. However when it was revealed that there were 3 of them playing as 1 I did lose my temper. I kept it to myself though. I like it here and apparently already have a reputation. I have not been here nearly as long as Coag. So I just left for a while.
I can understand Coags frustration to at first a DT claim he knew was 100% a lie and then his anger at the triumvirate revelation. And then he was basically told Oh well deal with it. I don't blame him for how he responded. He did not ruin the game for me. There was a period there where I think several of us in the game thought it was over. If Proact had been mod killed upon this revelation none of this would have happened. Coag did not cheat. He never violated his win condition. He reacted to what appeared at the time to be ambivalent hosts. If you really think he deserves a one game ban then do what you feel you must. I don't think he does.
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deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 01:28:42
April 27 2011 01:27 GMT
#1350
-Rules are there for a reason
-He had plenty of warnings
-Host's opinion should be final

If you don't like how strict a certain host is about the rules, don't play in their games. When you signup, you accept the rules. If you are upset about something in a game and the host says he will deal with it afterwards, just play on. If you are opposed to this, then ask to be subbed out. Don't make a huge fuss about it (like annul did in Insane 2) and remember in the end its just a game.

On April 27 2011 09:40 Jackal58 wrote:However when it was revealed that there were 3 of them playing as 1 I did lose my temper. I kept it to myself though. I like it here and apparently already have a reputation. I have not been here nearly as long as Coag. So I just left for a while.


This was the right thing to do
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
April 27 2011 01:31 GMT
#1351
On April 27 2011 07:32 BrownBear wrote:
I'd be completely fine with a one game ban. Anything else does seem a bit unnecessary.


I have no problem with a 1 game ban. I understand that my posting was bad. I will make the necessary corrections to fix it in the future.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
April 27 2011 02:28 GMT
#1352
Speaking from experience, coagulation's situation is easily something that anyone would have lost temper for. I don't really see the reason he should receive a ban more than anyone else who has lost their temper.
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
April 27 2011 02:39 GMT
#1353
Whatever brownbear wants for Coag is fine with me. Flamewheel should have to play two games on his regular acount before he can smurf again. Since Incog is taking a break from TL I won't include him in this and since Ver wasn't active I won't include him either. And with this post I'm done with this whole situation.
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chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 27 2011 02:43 GMT
#1354
On April 27 2011 11:28 orgolove wrote:
Speaking from experience, coagulation's situation is easily something that anyone would have lost temper for. I don't really see the reason he should receive a ban more than anyone else who has lost their temper.


And you keep your temper under control. Losing your temper isn't an excuse for the way he acted. He could have went out of a walk, something to cool off. He got multiple warnings for his actions and even though the situation wasn't one anyone wanted, he deserves a ban. He got stuck in a bad place and he made a bad call. 1 game ban.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Qatol
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States3165 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-27 02:57:21
April 27 2011 02:56 GMT
#1355
On April 27 2011 09:40 Jackal58 wrote:
I was in that game. My anger at the moment was on the FIV triumvirate revelations. When Proact switched from "Assassin" to "DT" it irritated me. I had a case on GM and Coag. But I felt that I could no longer pursue it due to it appearing that I was supporting a player that had blatantly lied. That frustrated me and I posted several times to that affect. However when it was revealed that there were 3 of them playing as 1 I did lose my temper. I kept it to myself though. I like it here and apparently already have a reputation. I have not been here nearly as long as Coag. So I just left for a while.
I can understand Coags frustration to at first a DT claim he knew was 100% a lie and then his anger at the triumvirate revelation. And then he was basically told Oh well deal with it. I don't blame him for how he responded. He did not ruin the game for me. There was a period there where I think several of us in the game thought it was over. If Proact had been mod killed upon this revelation none of this would have happened. Coag did not cheat. He never violated his win condition. He reacted to what appeared at the time to be ambivalent hosts. If you really think he deserves a one game ban then do what you feel you must. I don't think he does.

Read my earlier post please. You clearly did not if you're still talking about Protactinium.

On April 27 2011 11:28 orgolove wrote:
Speaking from experience, coagulation's situation is easily something that anyone would have lost temper for. I don't really see the reason he should receive a ban more than anyone else who has lost their temper.

That goes for you as well.
Uff Da
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
April 27 2011 03:42 GMT
#1356
Well, I think Qatol's point is that Coag was acting insane and abrasive BEFORE any of the shit went down with the pardon and protact. So saying "I was mad because of all the shit in the game" may be a valid defense for what happened after the events, it doesn't excuse his previous behavior.

Although in Coag's defense, I don't think he was directly warned until after the first incident (judging by Qatol's log post).
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
April 27 2011 03:52 GMT
#1357
My opinion is at least some of his anger is justified. His team did kinda get screwed over, and Meapak did tell him to "be an ass" in thread. That said, nothing can excuse the level to which he took his anger and the level to which he shit all over the thread. "Be an ass" does not equal "make the game unplayable for everyone except you".

However, I tend to be a forgiving guy. So, I'm still going to support only a one game ban PROVIDED Coag agrees to the following things:

-I think he should apologize to his team and to anyone else who he offended in game. He can just write a general apology, but it should be meaningful, not a flippant "lol sorry".
-Also, he has said he's going to work to manage his behavior in the future. I believe him, but still I think if he ever gets modkilled for behavioral issues again, we should consider something like a 4-5 game ban.


On the subject of behavioral vs. inactivity modkills - it really depends on the situation. In this game, obviously, the behavior was more disruptive than the inactivity, but there was also a recent game where a DT checked a red, got back red, and then went inactive and didnt get the red lynched, in pretty much a LYLO situation. That really screwed town over worse than any spammer/flamer.

So unless we want to split up the punishments between inactivity and behavior, which seems like way too much work for Qatol, I vote we leave it as is.
SUNSFANNED
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
April 27 2011 04:03 GMT
#1358
Requesting bans for Rean and Tackster for inactivity and not voting in Sleep Cell Mafia
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
April 27 2011 04:04 GMT
#1359
On April 27 2011 13:03 chaoser wrote:
Requesting bans for Rean and Tackster for inactivity and not voting in Sleep Cell Mafia

Seconded as Host :p
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Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
April 27 2011 04:06 GMT
#1360
On April 27 2011 01:20 Qatol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2011 22:25 Zona wrote:
I'll sit out 39. (This is the last game on my ban, btw, I've already sat out 2.)

You did? I have it marked as you have only sat out 1 game from this ban. Did I miss a sitting out post/PM somewhere?

And as for Coagulation, it seems everyone except Coagulation who has weighed in wants a standard ban for him at this point? I think I'm going to end this discussion in ~12 hours to give Coagulation some finality, so if you want to weigh in, do it now.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=114622&currentpage=17#338

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=114622&currentpage=21#409

These two seem to indicate two bans sat out if I am not mistaken.

As for coag, the day 1/early day 2 logs are BM level excessive. The hosts seem to be okay with a 1 game ban though. If you want something more than 1 game but not a game ban BB, how about he gets banned from insulting people and using caps lock in future games lol.
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