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On February 21 2010 01:44 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +The rain poured down steadily as darkness fell over the town. Inside an old shack in a deserted part of the town, 789 was content relaxing in the quiet of his bedroom. He could hear the light rain on the top of the roof, but was jolted out of his trance when he heard some panting, a few grunts, and then a loud crash upstairs. 789’s mind raced for a moment, but he was interrupted as the whole second floor of the shack came crashing down from the weight of the water and sewage above, ending his life.
Change of rain? Old shack, but it's two story and the whole floor comes down? Panting, grunting, loud crash. This part made me think of Xelin, but not the rest. Mafia can bring down a whole floor using water and sewage? It happens rather quickly. For obvious Drainage and Sewage. Given how obvious clues have seemed. The cat obviously knocked over something. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ScampShow nested quote +
SugiuraMidori smiled, thinking about the murders that would happen tonight. But it was cold tonight, and she decided to watch the murders from her apartment instead of watching from the tower in the middle of the town. As she turned around, she noticed the light in the background floating slowly to her location. At first she thought the light to be an omen of success, but she was suddenly shocked as the charming light sped up and pierced her skin. She felt a burning sensation, followed by more attacks from the light. A few moments later, SugiuraMidori died as her heart was overloaded from shock.
It was raining earlier... Background light coming at her. Slowly. Floating, Radiant. The light was percieved as an Omen. It was charming. Also able to pierce skin. Laser? Fine pointed. Burned. The light is powerful. Given the rest of the blatanly obvious clues...Hi Shockey? (I keep championing his death, but I'd be wary of this.) Show nested quote +
nemY was sitting on his second story balcony, when he saw a dark shape flying in his direction. At first, he thought it was probably a hawk hunting at night, but as the figure converged on his location, nemY noticed that the creature was much larger than he had anticipated. Panicked, he ran inside his house and closed his eyes. But nemY was not safe, and a large boulder crashed through the roof and landed a few feet away from him. He saw the figure screech as it flew overhead, blocking out the moonlight from entering the large hole now in nemY's roof. nemY breathed a sigh of relief, yet was shocked at the damage done to his house. He frantically tried to clean up the mess, fearful that the rest of the roof would cave in. But the attacker returned, dropping another rock through the roof. nemY’s life ended as he flew like a rag doll from the impact of the boulder into the splintered end of a roof beam on the other side of his house.
The hawklike creature was large, dark, and scary. Nemy closed his eyes. Mafia can drop boulders. Screeches. Nemy thought he was safe, this probably isn't important, I just like the false sense of security. =P Flew accross the house with the impact, so it was very hard. I mean, I don't think a boulder would make you bounce, but he hit the roof beam. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=ohNFor his quote. Mentions the sky, hiding, dropping. Show nested quote +
At a fork in the road, one of the men took a left turn which meandered down near the river. The old shack at the end of the road looked deserted, but the man was not disturbed. He snuck closely through the shadows, making sure to blend in with the dark river behind him. The shack seemed abandoned, but the man heard some quiet singing emanating from the shack. As he approached the shack, he noticed an emaciated and pale man inside. The Mafioso didn’t feel especially playful tonight, and decided to simply get the job done. He ripped down the thin wall of the shack closest to the river, and lunged at his victim. Shikyo did not move a muscle as a dull fork flew toward his face and plunged into his left temple. However, the killer was shocked to see two bombs explode in the field nearby, and warily began to sneak away from the crime scene as the debris crunched below his feet. When he was but fifty yards away, he heard a large tree fall overhead, smashing the Shikyo’s shack to pieces and turning Shikyo to pulp.
Leisurely. Comfortable. Sneaky, Hides to blend in with the river. He heard singing? (maybe this one is oHn? Who's the pic in Redtooth's profile? Madnessmen to.) ohn's music is trance. Pale man. Too the point. Wtf, ripping walls open again? Near the river side. Where'd the fork come from? Fork, It's dull? He's heavy. Crunching debris. How'd the tree fall? Was it planned? I dunno....Gotta be at work in 18 minutes. I'll come back to do the rest later. I get off in 8 hours though, 12 - 8.
~Opz always has good clue analysis. This is something that people should really, really pay attention too -_-
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If somebody can find one plausible connection to myself in any the deaths, then I'll vote for myself for lynching. Point being, there is not a shred of textual evidence against me, merely my inactivity (which I have explained) and a post by I10f which says absolutely nothing.
If I am lynched off of flimsy, manufactured, and conjectured circumstantial evidence in two posts, then I have no doubt the town will lose this game.
Ver, you're supposed to actually be good at this game, either you've totally lost your wits, or you're mafia.
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On February 21 2010 03:27 tree.hugger wrote:
If somebody can find one plausible connection to myself in any the deaths, then I'll vote for myself for lynching. Point being, there is not a shred of textual evidence against me, merely my inactivity (which I have explained) and a post by I10f which says absolutely nothing.
If I am lynched off of flimsy, manufactured, and conjectured circumstantial evidence in two posts, then I have no doubt the town will lose this game.
Ver, you're supposed to actually be good at this game, either you've totally lost your wits, or you're mafia.
Mafia mafia mafia. You're no longer inactive, yet you're still not contributing. Find a better target.
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On February 21 2010 02:35 johnnyspazz wrote:
If you guys think I'm mafia, I wouldn't waste a lynch on me. Instead you guys should find a bigger target to lynch and just let the other mafia hit me.
This is pretty much saying "yeah I'm mafia, but you guys should kill my superiors/the other family members instead of me".
I know some of you guys are onto tree.hugger, but might also want to consider johnnyspazz.
It's basically a choice between behavioral analysis and clue analysis.
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Would also want to note the following from the voting thread:
On February 20 2010 15:37 johnnyspazz wrote:
I vote for tree.hugger
On February 20 2010 16:28 johnnyspazz wrote:
i change my vote to Ver
- Ver suggests to lynch tree.hugger.
- johnnyspazz votes for tree.hugger.
- 50 minutes later johnnyspazz changes his vote to Ver.
It could be staged, but this just doesn't make sense.
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I still don't see why anyone but scamp is being targetted. He's by far the best clue match, he's playing behaviorally identical to EVERY GAME THAT HE'S BEEN MAFIA and he's not even bothering to try and defend himself.
Frankly everyone who's pushing votes onto tree hugger when he's got far weaker clues and less behavioral tells is either listening to Ver blindly or trying to swing conversation in a way so that scamp is ignored and gets off the hook for today. Not going to work, sorry.
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On February 20 2010 10:17 Caller wrote:
So here are the mayoral candidates:
BloodyC0bbler dead townie
citi.zen
l10f
meeple dead townie
Ver
Ace dead townie
redtooth
Bill Murray dead townie
DoctorHelvetica dead sumiyoshi
So now we're down to citi.zen, l10f, Ver, and redtooth. I'm betting at least one of these guys is scummy. I doubt it's Ver, redtooth's been afk, citi.zen's still been contributing, and l10f has been afk. meh
I would contribute more but watching people play SC2 is just too big of a priority right now -_-
maybe more thinking later
interesting how you left L out, and L fails to correct you. I think we established that pardoner would be the role the mafia would want. How suspicious o:
Also, I voted for decafchicken because he is acting the exact same way he did the last game I played with him when he was mafia. I don't think hes the best person to vote for, I think that Scamp probably is. I will change my vote to scamp if things get close towards the end.
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On February 21 2010 05:33 Iaaan wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2010 10:17 Caller wrote:
So here are the mayoral candidates:
BloodyC0bbler dead townie
citi.zen
l10f
meeple dead townie
Ver
Ace dead townie
redtooth
Bill Murray dead townie
DoctorHelvetica dead sumiyoshi
So now we're down to citi.zen, l10f, Ver, and redtooth. I'm betting at least one of these guys is scummy. I doubt it's Ver, redtooth's been afk, citi.zen's still been contributing, and l10f has been afk. meh
I would contribute more but watching people play SC2 is just too big of a priority right now -_-
maybe more thinking later interesting how you left L out, and L fails to correct you. I think we established that pardoner would be the role the mafia would want. How suspicious o: Also, I voted for decafchicken because he is acting the exact same way he did the last game I played with him when he was mafia. I don't think hes the best person to vote for, I think that Scamp probably is. I will change my vote to scamp if things get close towards the end.
This is actually not the first time someone does something like that in this game and leaves me off a list.
A few people seem to be trying to take shots at me from the dark like that.
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I wouldn't say Scamp isn't a candidate due to the sewage clue, but if you guys genuinely think it is better than johnnyspazz, where an entire paragraph of clues matches up, you are either:
- Naive
- In the same family with johnnyspazz, and wants the other family member to be lynched instead.
Either way, if we hit a red for our lynch, I'm happy. Although it is ideal to keep both family members count close.
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And now this happens. How oh so convenient.
On February 21 2010 04:25 johnnyspazz wrote:
i change my vote to Scamp
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On February 21 2010 06:07 Fishball wrote:And now this happens. How oh so convenient.
I'm pretty sure he's mafia too, but I haven't played with him before and have no idea what tells he might have.
Scamp, on the other hand, has a huge mafia tell; He doesn't post shit. He isn't posting shit. And if he does post shit in response to this, its a bit too late. I've called out scamp while he was mafia in like 4 games including this one, including one in which he was a suicide bomber and bombed me. Maybe its a personal thing, but I don't want to see him suvive the night.
In other news; Can't we double lynch or something?
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On February 21 2010 02:24 Foolishness wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2010 15:50 tree.hugger wrote:My activity is pretty easily explained, I'm currently in a production of Marat/Sade which is now in tech week. I have barely enough time to read this thread, let alone do the wonderful clue and behavioral analysis that this game has shown so far. Doesn't mean I'm not happy to see such a bountiful harvest of red, due to the diligent labor this thread has produced. NOBODY CARESThe very least you could do is to try to defend yourself here. Ver has posted ample evidence indicating how suspicious you are based on your behavior, and your retaliation is "oh sorry i'm so inactive waa waa". Guess what? NOBODY CARES! You have yet to deny any claim that you are mafia. Considering Ver has the inside scoop on the town it's much more sensible we listen to him at this point. I was hoping that somewhat else would be observant enough, but since everyone playing seems to have the attention span of a four year old: a bodyguard is dead!. What does this mean? One of the mafia substituted a member in. This could mean a variety of things we must look out for. We don't know which family substituted the member in, and it's very possible that even more of the bodyguards are mafia.
I'm glad someone else saw this!!
The rules say the Mayor can substitute their family members for BGs, and if you look @ the first post, there are 3/4 of BGs left, but no blues are marked as BGs.
any answer for this, redtooth?
also, my top suspect for now is L. in the beginning, he was trying to attribute clues to ace and Dr. H was backing him up on this; lo and behold, ace is green and Dr. H is red.
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On February 21 2010 06:22 Versatile wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2010 02:24 Foolishness wrote:On February 20 2010 15:50 tree.hugger wrote:My activity is pretty easily explained, I'm currently in a production of Marat/Sade which is now in tech week. I have barely enough time to read this thread, let alone do the wonderful clue and behavioral analysis that this game has shown so far. Doesn't mean I'm not happy to see such a bountiful harvest of red, due to the diligent labor this thread has produced. NOBODY CARESThe very least you could do is to try to defend yourself here. Ver has posted ample evidence indicating how suspicious you are based on your behavior, and your retaliation is "oh sorry i'm so inactive waa waa". Guess what? NOBODY CARES! You have yet to deny any claim that you are mafia. Considering Ver has the inside scoop on the town it's much more sensible we listen to him at this point. I was hoping that somewhat else would be observant enough, but since everyone playing seems to have the attention span of a four year old: a bodyguard is dead!. What does this mean? One of the mafia substituted a member in. This could mean a variety of things we must look out for. We don't know which family substituted the member in, and it's very possible that even more of the bodyguards are mafia. I'm glad someone else saw this!! The rules say the Mayor can substitute their family members for BGs, and if you look @ the first post, there are 3/4 of BGs left, but no blues are marked as BGs. any answer for this, redtooth? also, my top suspect for now is L. in the beginning, he was trying to attribute clues to ace and Dr. H was backing him up on this; lo and behold, ace is green and Dr. H is red.
Uh, actually, the rules don't say that. they say that either family before the first day ends can select people to put in as bodyguards.
Each mafia family has the option, by the time of the Mayor election, to substitute up to two of their members for Bodyguards.
As far as the Ace thing; 1) Look how the thing started; Someone basically took one of my remarks and upped the ante. 2) Ver wanted me to push Ace. 3) I wanted to get a read on redtooth, who's been afk for like a year and now has a clue stuck to him. I also thought nemY and Empyrean were mafia.
So if someone can;
Someone find someone who attaches to the stain killer. The only people I can see being fingered by the clue are redtooth (which is is horrendous bad) via ketchup stain, or meeple because he basically has what I'd imagine would be the end result of the stain spreading.
Frankly, i'm not 100% sure on either, but no one's even bothering to talk about it which is a good indicator that mafia are going to try and use the low activity in the thread to just ignore threats to them.
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On February 21 2010 06:22 Versatile wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2010 02:24 Foolishness wrote:On February 20 2010 15:50 tree.hugger wrote:My activity is pretty easily explained, I'm currently in a production of Marat/Sade which is now in tech week. I have barely enough time to read this thread, let alone do the wonderful clue and behavioral analysis that this game has shown so far. Doesn't mean I'm not happy to see such a bountiful harvest of red, due to the diligent labor this thread has produced. NOBODY CARESThe very least you could do is to try to defend yourself here. Ver has posted ample evidence indicating how suspicious you are based on your behavior, and your retaliation is "oh sorry i'm so inactive waa waa". Guess what? NOBODY CARES! You have yet to deny any claim that you are mafia. Considering Ver has the inside scoop on the town it's much more sensible we listen to him at this point. I was hoping that somewhat else would be observant enough, but since everyone playing seems to have the attention span of a four year old: a bodyguard is dead!. What does this mean? One of the mafia substituted a member in. This could mean a variety of things we must look out for. We don't know which family substituted the member in, and it's very possible that even more of the bodyguards are mafia. I'm glad someone else saw this!! The rules say the Mayor can substitute their family members for BGs, and if you look @ the first post, there are 3/4 of BGs left, but no blues are marked as BGs. any answer for this, redtooth? also, my top suspect for now is L. in the beginning, he was trying to attribute clues to ace and Dr. H was backing him up on this; lo and behold, ace is green and Dr. H is red.
Which adds up to my posts above, and their voting pattern.
On February 21 2010 05:49 Fishball wrote:
- Naive
- In the same family with johnnyspazz, and wants the other family member to be lynched instead.
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In other news; we need more people to post :/
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If I were to take a stab at the 3 primary suspects right now (tree.hugger, johnnyspazz, Scamp), this is how I would see it.
0% for least convincing, 100% for very convincing
tree.hugger (0%? Clues, 70% Behavioral)
johnnyspazz (90% Clues, 80% Behavioral)
Scamp (60% Clues, 40% Behavioral) Maybe 90% Behavioral for L
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On February 21 2010 06:43 Fishball wrote:
If I were to take a stab at the 3 primary suspects right now (tree.hugger, johnnyspazz, Scamp), this is how I would see it.
0% for least convincing, 100% for very convincing
tree.hugger (0%? Clues, 70% Behavioral)
johnnyspazz (90% Clues, 80% Behavioral)
Scamp (60% Clues, 40% Behavioral) Maybe 90% Behavioral for L
Scamp's clues are very, very well done and he's like 95% behavioral for me. Seriously, go look at any game he's been in.
Tree.hugger does have clues against him, but they're like 40% or so. There's references to tree branchs during phrubaz's killing and there's the cut tree (stump in his profile) in the fork killer, but I'm not entirely sure that these things can be attributed to him because they're also related to ohN.
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Oh, and that reminds me.
We need to vote for a double lynch today to get one tomorrow, so VOTE FOR DOUBLE LYNCH. we have a surplus of suspects and a dearth of town killing power.
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You really want Scamp dead. I've already brought up all the arguments above, so I'll let everyone judge for themselves.
We should have voted for double lynch the other Day. It is already too late for this upcoming lynch.
Regardless, I'll vote for the next cycle.
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On February 21 2010 06:32 L wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2010 06:22 Versatile wrote:On February 21 2010 02:24 Foolishness wrote:On February 20 2010 15:50 tree.hugger wrote:My activity is pretty easily explained, I'm currently in a production of Marat/Sade which is now in tech week. I have barely enough time to read this thread, let alone do the wonderful clue and behavioral analysis that this game has shown so far. Doesn't mean I'm not happy to see such a bountiful harvest of red, due to the diligent labor this thread has produced. NOBODY CARESThe very least you could do is to try to defend yourself here. Ver has posted ample evidence indicating how suspicious you are based on your behavior, and your retaliation is "oh sorry i'm so inactive waa waa". Guess what? NOBODY CARES! You have yet to deny any claim that you are mafia. Considering Ver has the inside scoop on the town it's much more sensible we listen to him at this point. I was hoping that somewhat else would be observant enough, but since everyone playing seems to have the attention span of a four year old: a bodyguard is dead!. What does this mean? One of the mafia substituted a member in. This could mean a variety of things we must look out for. We don't know which family substituted the member in, and it's very possible that even more of the bodyguards are mafia. I'm glad someone else saw this!! The rules say the Mayor can substitute their family members for BGs, and if you look @ the first post, there are 3/4 of BGs left, but no blues are marked as BGs. any answer for this, redtooth? also, my top suspect for now is L. in the beginning, he was trying to attribute clues to ace and Dr. H was backing him up on this; lo and behold, ace is green and Dr. H is red. Uh, actually, the rules don't say that. they say that either family before the first day ends can select people to put in as bodyguards. Show nested quote +Each mafia family has the option, by the time of the Mayor election, to substitute up to two of their members for Bodyguards. As far as the Ace thing; 1) Look how the thing started; Someone basically took one of my remarks and upped the ante. 2) Ver wanted me to push Ace. 3) I wanted to get a read on redtooth, who's been afk for like a year and now has a clue stuck to him. I also thought nemY and Empyrean were mafia. So if someone can; Someone find someone who attaches to the stain killer. The only people I can see being fingered by the clue are redtooth (which is is horrendous bad) via ketchup stain, or meeple because he basically has what I'd imagine would be the end result of the stain spreading. Frankly, i'm not 100% sure on either, but no one's even bothering to talk about it which is a good indicator that mafia are going to try and use the low activity in the thread to just ignore threats to them.
i thought you were a supposedly good player? why would you do something someone else (Ver) told you to, so early in the game, not knowing of he is mafia or innocent, when the blame would clearly come back to you? just as it has now.
how the hell does that make sense?
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