EPTThere's no conclusive link between the rooftop killer in the day 1 clues and the actual murder. The guy was just running away from the sounds and died.
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L
Canada4732 Posts
There's no conclusive link between the rooftop killer in the day 1 clues and the actual murder. The guy was just running away from the sounds and died. | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
On February 18 2010 09:42 L wrote: Yeah you're full of shit. There's no conclusive link between the rooftop killer in the day 1 clues and the actual murder. The guy was just running away from the sounds and died. This inspired me to draw: ![[image loading]](http://i50.tinypic.com/vwx1u8.jpg) EDIT:: clarification is apparently required.. that's a bird on the roof saying 'chirp' indicating it's peaceful outside, but not so much inside. This is a metaphor for our now rather silent town except for the few still active. And as Qatol has so painfully pointed out.. I meant 'Gavel' not 'gravel' ... but he's a lawyer and I'm not, so I had no idea and got corrected! xD | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Its like people only feel like they can post when I'm away and thus more likely to overlook stupid shit they say. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
We probably haven't even seen all the mafia yet, and how do you expect us to come up with new material. Everyones afraid you Lucas and Ver will put them on his almighty "list." I'm not exactly the best at clue interpretation either. I mean, hell all I did was suggest Shikyo and Xelin were mafia, but my assumption was obviously too stupid and weak that it just got labeled spam. Damn you Lucas, damn you! | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On February 18 2010 09:42 L wrote: Yeah you're full of shit. There's no conclusive link between the rooftop killer in the day 1 clues and the actual murder. The guy was just running away from the sounds and died. L, play nice  | ||
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Faronel
United States658 Posts
Btw Malongo... I'm kind of a bad mafia player in that I've never fully active (see my other 2 mafia games). Hence I come off as scummy nearly 100% of the time. I guess that makes me a semi-decent lynch target as lynching non-contributing members is always good. Like a list of all non-contributing members (including those who post like 100 times but always re-iterate something aka no new analysis) would be a good lynch list. | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
On February 18 2010 10:34 L wrote: I'd be happy if that picture inspired people to post, because shit got REAL SLOW REAL FAST. Its like people only feel like they can post when I'm away and thus more likely to overlook stupid shit they say. We're all too busy watching live SC2 feeds, why aren't you :D | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On February 18 2010 10:39 ~OpZ~ wrote: You sound like Ace now... We probably haven't even seen all the mafia yet, and how do you expect us to come up with new material. Everyones afraid you Lucas and Ver will put them on his almighty "list." I'm not exactly the best at clue interpretation either. I mean, hell all I did was suggest Shikyo and Xelin were mafia, but my assumption was obviously too stupid and weak that it just got labeled spam. Damn you Lucas, damn you! I'm not putting anyone on a list unless there are clues pointing towards you or you're acting flagrantly stupid. I just want to be clear; I have the balls to call people out, but I need other people to have balls too. Why? Because I'm wrong sometimes. I don't have a 100% certainty in this game and its pretty obvious that no one else does. If Lucas is going to put up a post and label it as spam, that's awesome for him; he isn't the entirety of the town, neither is Ver, neither am I. As far as Shikyo and Xelin: Shikyo goes afk to the point of him missing DT checks during games, so I'm not surprised he's doing nothing if he's pretty much any role. Xelin I've never played with before. Shikyo's profile is retarded hard to connect clues to; I can see very few clueable themes besides 'metal' and the confusion/chaos thing. Neither have really popped up in the clues. XeliN actually is a decent fit for the clue I linked to madness man, but only because there are 2 men in the picture. Then again, that's all incog has really needed in the past to form a clue, so its possible he's the culprit there. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On February 18 2010 10:47 SugiuraMidori wrote: We're all too busy watching live SC2 feeds, why aren't you :D yeah me too :D | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
 he just completely raped a terran | ||
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SugiuraMidori
United States281 Posts
On February 18 2010 11:06 Bill Murray wrote: watching chill's he just completely raped a terran I was.. but it lagged me hard, so now I'm watching Psyonic_Reavers | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Ok lol. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
but sc2 > mafia game without ace drama | ||
Ver
United States2186 Posts
I am a Veteran Why am I doing this? To get town coordination, which will help weed through the useless massses of people where there is a mix of green/blue/red. Also some more trust to enhance the strength of accusations would be good too. Since I'm sure there will be resistance to this move the coordination aspect can wait till that has died down. Proof required stuff etc: There were a possible 7 hits last night, 3 from each family and 1 bomb. Now BC doesn't *have* to place the bomb, but there's really no reason why he shouldn't. Since there were only 5 hits last night, 1 for sure that is unaccounted for and another that is very likely also missing. As has already been stated, the double clueset for BC very likely points to two mafia hitting him. Otherwise there is still another hit missing and Incognito is screwing with us (not likely). Since BC could not have bombed himself and there'd be no clue for that, he either bombed nobody, bombed somebody else dead, bombed somebody alive who was protted (and never called it), or bombed me. However, there is a post by BC right before he died that gives a pretty strong indication of who he would bomb. On February 17 2010 02:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote: For anyone in the general know how, and medics feel free to not prot me. However, Ver has tried to guess my role, as well as actively pm people this game. Both are actions Ver rarely takes. Read earlier in the thread and you will find that he "RC'd" to BM. I will spend some time once ive showered going over his posts and analyzing him, but he is not as safe an option to prot any more than I am. His earlier accusations of anyone besides me were long before that time. The possibilities here: 1) I really am a Vet and this is all the truth 2) BC never planted a bomb or planted it on another dead target, BC took 2 hits, and I decided to take a huge gamble in lying that I took a hit within 11 minutes after the day post. This would make no sense because if I was lying I wouldn't know what happened with BC's bomb and would be taking an enormous risk if he in fact bombed someone still alive. However, nobody else has called out a hit. That means all hits are accounted for, or someone is being a noob and not saying anything despite the fact that they would get a mafia 100% certain if they were telling the truth. Since it's already been over 24 hours, the latter pretty much isn't going to happen. 3) I am lying that I am a Vet, was protected by a medic, and they would call me out. My family loses its leader and splinters away. Now of course, if I am telling the truth a mafia can still sacrifice themselves and claim to be medic that protected me to get me killed. That's certainly possible, but that's a risk I'm willing to take since I don't feel anyone left alive can convince the town against me from an inferior position (both on posting history and the fact that they must lie), and the benefits of getting a confirmed innocent are enormous, and in the worst case I will trade myself for a mafia. Furthermore that action is also very disadvantageous for the mafia that does it, because they are losing a member in an action that does not help them any more than the other side. Obviously neither mafia wants a confirmed innocent and will do all in their power to put suspicion on me, but to actually get rid of me they have to put themselves in an inferior position by sacrificing a member. Lastly, why am I doing this so late? First I was under suspicion for whatever reason and I figured this would just amplify it if I did it then. Secondly, I wanted to see if anyone else would claim that they got hit, and nobody has in 24 hours. Oh and for those who bring up that I claimed hatter to Bill Murray, that was to provoke a response that would determine his alignment, nothing more. Hatter is a lot more suited to provoking a response than bland old Vet. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
Oh and for those who bring up that I claimed that I was working with the mafia to Bill Murray, that was to provoke a response that would determine his alignment, nothing more. Working with mafia is a lot more suited to provoking a response than doing nothing. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
So you're trying to pull medic prots and then lied to the town AND to someone else in PMs? And so claiming this this far into the day is supposed to make you seem less fraudulent because you wanted, explicitly stated, the heat on you to die down? Rofl. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
There can be 2 assumptions: He is town aligned, and is a Veteran or Mad Hatter like he has claimed, and wants to bring people together that can protect the town. I have seen nothing of this so far. He is mafia, and is fishing for Blue Roles so he can eliminate them when or if he needs to... this seemed more likely to me when getting his pm. When Chezinu pmed me, it was more of a joke. I don't really take him seriously, I just wanted to scare him out of hiding and see how he would react. The way he reacted was pretty good, so I don't think he's red right now until something else changes. | ||
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Mystlord
United States10264 Posts
On February 18 2010 09:42 L wrote: Yeah you're full of shit. There's no conclusive link between the rooftop killer in the day 1 clues and the actual murder. The guy was just running away from the sounds and died. Of course. Ignore me. Any justifiable reason? | ||
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Ver
United States2186 Posts
On February 18 2010 11:51 L wrote: So you put yourself on the medic protection list as a Vet and then claimed someone protected you when you should have been told you lost a night life. So you're trying to pull medic prots and then lied to the town AND to someone else in PMs? And so claiming this this far into the day is supposed to make you seem less fraudulent because you wanted, explicitly stated, the heat on you to die down? Rofl. I never claimed someone protected me. I simply said I was hit. It doesn't matter whether I appear less fradulent or not, I never have fears of looking suspicious when I am innocent (remember caller's mafiya? we had this exact same exchange). If nobody believes me then yeah this failed and I'll just keep doing analysis the best I can. But really in this scenario unless someone calls me a liar those actions you listed are irrelevant and can simply be reduced to bad play because I am basically a confirmed innocent at this point unless someone calls me a liar about taking a hit or protting me. | ||
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Ver
United States2186 Posts
On February 18 2010 11:56 Mystlord wrote: @Ver: Ok, so you're a Veteran. I don't doubt you. Like I said when you first told us you got hit, the risk is too great to lie. I'm not exactly sure how that helps us in any way though. Of course. Ignore me. Any justifiable reason? Confirmed innocents can force roleclaims. | ||
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