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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 14 2010 09:02 GMT
#521
it's pretty clear that it's his ideas and not something he got from a pm
RIP Aaliyah
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
February 14 2010 09:08 GMT
#522
On February 14 2010 15:38 Zato-1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 15:12 madnessman wrote:
As others have mentioned, in the passage there is quite a lot of imagery regarding darkness and light. A lot of players' profiles allude to this in some form or another. So in this regard, getting carried away and everybody jumping on the bandwagon and pointing fingers at individuals whose profiles have a vague connection to these clues may not be the best idea.

Well I'll be damned, someone actually made a compelling case for why the suspicion on Ace may be misplaced. Color me impressed.

The fact that darkness and light references not only have to do with the twin horsemen that killed Qatol, but go on with the burning house, the shadowy figure that killed Incognito and the radiant being that killed Kennigit... it does raise the possibility that while trying to portray one mafia family with imagery of darkness and the other with light, Incognito unwittingly placed Ace in the crossfire.

I am now prepared to admit that the evidence against Ace is insufficient. Well done, madnessman.


I actually sort of agree with this, but I suck at clue analysis. It wouldn't surprise me though if each mafia family had a general "theme" to them.

I've read over everything and all I really know is, "meh, I don't know".

I agree that it's hard to use clue analysis to sufficiently link anybody as "mafia", especially when it's this early in the game.

Bill Murray's slip up seems rather mafiaish, and I personally think he's the most sound target right now... I mean really how do you accidentally slip something like that in?
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 09:15 GMT
#523
Even giving him the benefit of the doubt, I still can't come up with a defense for Bill Murray.

So if he turns out mafia this totally proves L's theory correct that if you get mafia to talk they will slip up sometimes. If he isn't mafia... I don't know what to say..
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
February 14 2010 09:23 GMT
#524
On February 14 2010 17:34 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2010 17:30 Chezinu wrote:
On February 14 2010 17:28 Bill Murray wrote:
after reading your alls posts, it is actually sort of easy to put people into groups of "blind faith and teamwork" which would be associated with mafia.

the only problem here is there seem to be multiple groups
L
Chezinu
redtooth
laaan
zato-1
bloodycobbler
ver
L
Mystlord
fulgrim


in my opinion are mafia, possibly not all in the same mafia, but that's my guess

i also think that bloodycobbler is the other mafia godfather


"other"... are you implying that you are mafia?
GUYS THIS IS ACTUALLY A KEY OBSERVATION AND SHOULDN'T BE OVERLOOKED. stuff like this is the reason why edits are highly discouraged. did Bill just let slip that he knew the identity of one of the mafia godfathers?

and i like the way he basically listed every high-activity poster as a mafia.

Every high-activity poster other than Ace? And I wouldn't label Ver as high-activity... In fact, I think this is the first time we've had a serious accusation against him.

And the "other godfather" slip is pretty big... I'm curious to see what's going to happen.

Let's not forget the mayor elections in the midst of this though.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 14 2010 09:24 GMT
#525
Possible Mayor candidates

Ace
Ver
BC
everyone else
Bill Murray
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
February 14 2010 09:24 GMT
#526
Oh no Bill what hast thou done!! Trying to come up with a plausible explanation for how "other" slipped in there but im drawing blank.

Firstly the activity in this game is amazing, expected to wake up with a good few pages to read, did not expect 20+...

Not entirely sure on who to vote for atm, going to have to go over the thread without skim reading, but I'm glad Bloody emphasised just how bad 10f's plan was (If elected he said he would lynch someone who was Mafia from a previous game) and can't believe more people didnt bring this up, but as I said have only skimmed so far.
Adonai bless
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 09:29 GMT
#527
On February 14 2010 18:24 XeliN wrote:
wake up


lol... I haven't gone to sleep since this game started. That is why you should vote for me!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 14 2010 09:45 GMT
#528
it's interesting that ace is the only really active poster so far bm didn't accuse

RIP Aaliyah
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 14 2010 10:02 GMT
#529
maybe because I don't seem to be in a group with anyone else?

<--rolls for doly all the time
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Incognito
Profile Joined November 2008
United States2071 Posts
February 14 2010 10:04 GMT
#530
A few quick things:

Mafia. I will need to know who you wish to choose as the Godfather for your team before the Night 1 post goes up. So please discuss that with your team if you have not done so already. Also, the mafia must decide if they wish to substitute mafiosi for bodyguards. I will also need to know this before the day post. Thanks.
The bureaucracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 10:16 GMT
#531
I have a plan now!

I have a plan of what I could do as mayor! But as most plans, I can't not tell... Just know I have a plan now! With that I'm going to sleep! Unless, somone posts soon after or I can't sleep!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 14 2010 10:32 GMT
#532
Chezinu still phishing me in PMs even after all these games v_v
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 10:44 GMT
#533
!!!!!! My plan just got a whole lot better!!!!!!

I just realized I don't really need to be mayor for it to work. It will work if I'm either mayor or pardoner!!!

PLEASE TRUST ME!!! VOTE FOR ME!!!
lol, clueless in The Prism!
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 14 2010 10:44 GMT
#534
!!!
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 14 2010 10:45 GMT
#535
going to sleep

sorry i was a bit inactive today, i've been busy packing stuff here and there. i'll be able to be more active tomorrow
RIP Aaliyah
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
February 14 2010 11:14 GMT
#536
Excellent. A bunch of things to cover. This thread is exploding as fast as Qatol's game. Hopefully it doesn't turn into that quagmire.

1) Bill Murray is looking very innocent to me, based on his reaction. It's the same type of scenario that those who played in Incognito's game saw with t_co, who ended up townie.

2) Clues. It's natural that new players are obsessed with clues. They seem more reliable. Clue analysis and behavior analysis are both very difficult at first, behavior slightly more so though again only Camlito and MTF have gotten people on clues in more than 1 game. To new players, behavior seems much more sketchy, so these responses are natural.. I think nearly all of the people who are crazy about clues are both more than likely innocent and simply haven't seen the terrifying power that good analysis skills can do. For an example see here chuius game 5 (despite what may be posted in the thread nobody was actually gotten on clues, that's just a coverup for reasons I don't want to go into). This game was the best town performance ever, and it went like this (7/8 mafia on lynches) because all of the best analysts and planners were on the town's side. We had 2 mafia confirmed by day 1 along with probably 15 innocents and several power roles, and several more mafia outted by day 2. That is NEVER going to happen with clues. Because the thing with clues is that you cannot know if someone is innocent. Analysis can do that. Exactly why I'm calling Bill Murray innocent.

If you want to support using clues this early, then you better provide good support for it and not some lazy gibberish (like L has been doing, this is good). Just posting 'i think clues this early are still useful' with no support means absolutely nothing and doesn't help us learn anything about you. Remember as an innocent, part of your job is to find mafia. The other part is to make your innocence clear.

3) Running for Mayor. As all the vets know, I hate being in the spotlight, it's too time taxing. I ran for mayor awhile back as part of an elaborate plan and I ended up going insane because I was getting 60+ pm's a day. So my decision to run for mayor is basically, do I want to even possibly subject myself to that again (as it will affect my performance), or do I take the risk of letting another mafia get into power? And perhaps just as importantly, do I risk trusting the medics to keep me alive (hasn't worked in the past lol). I know I'm going to take hits because red blood will fly.

Of course the ideal solution is that I become mayor/pardoner and I stick in the shadows without being bombarbed by half the town every day. You guys okay with that? I simply don't have the time to be answering that many pm's plus doing in depth analysis on a bunch of mafia.

My plan is still under construction, not enough time yet to fully get something together. Until that plan is finalized I'll simply try to keep the town on the right track and to get people talking about suspects, because a lot of people are being very suspicious so far. More coming shortly.
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Chezinu
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States7466 Posts
February 14 2010 11:22 GMT
#537
"The other part is to make your innocence clear. "

I never heard that this was our job..
lol, clueless in The Prism!
Ver
Profile Joined October 2008
United States2186 Posts
February 14 2010 11:27 GMT
#538
Oh it sure is.
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Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 14 2010 11:31 GMT
#539
On February 14 2010 20:14 Ver wrote:


1) Bill Murray is looking very innocent to me, based on his reaction. It's the same type of scenario that those who played in Incognito's game saw with t_co, who ended up townie.
.



ver, sorry i ever doubted you
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
February 14 2010 11:31 GMT
#540
and the reason i didn't accuse ace is that he is pulling a t_co i thought
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
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