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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
March 02 2010 12:53 GMT
#2721
Because we have a very short time to take out Sumiyoshi if we're going to win this game.

Again, anyone who does not vote for a double lynch will be killed on the next day.

Exception for Malongo if he can't vote.
Cheese is good for you!
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 02 2010 13:27 GMT
#2722
Since when did you get the right to dictate who will and won't die?

I'm not entirely sure in the double lynch mostly because it does not seem many people have a clear reasoned idea as to who should be voted for and in situations like that it just makes it easier for the mafia to manipulate the voting.

although you are probably right in the time frame, the sumiyoshi are looking like they have won this unless something drastic happens and fast.
Adonai bless
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
March 02 2010 15:57 GMT
#2723
On March 02 2010 22:27 XeliN wrote:
Since when did you get the right to dictate who will and won't die?

I'm not entirely sure in the double lynch mostly because it does not seem many people have a clear reasoned idea as to who should be voted for and in situations like that it just makes it easier for the mafia to manipulate the voting.

although you are probably right in the time frame, the sumiyoshi are looking like they have won this unless something drastic happens and fast.


Yes, and that drastic thing is killing sumiyoshi in our double lynches. If we can take out two we actually have a chance of winning.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
March 02 2010 16:11 GMT
#2724
On March 02 2010 08:52 Incognito wrote:
Vote count:

Abenson: (4)
Chezinu
Vivi57
Versatile
dozko
johnnyspazz
~Opz~

Sidesprang: (5)
Chezinu
Vivi57
johnnyspazz
Abenson
Scamp

XeliN: (2)
Vivi57
dozko

Malongo: (0)
Vivi57
Versatile

ohN: 2)
~OpZ~
Scamp

ShoCkeyy: (2)
~OpZ~
Foolishness

~OpZ~: (2)
Foolishness
Versatile
Abenson

Foolishness: (1)
Versatile
~Opz~

johnnyspazz: (1)
Xelin

Chezinu: (1)
Xelin

Abstain: (2)
johnnyspazz x2 (by default)
Malongo x2 (by default; Chile Earthquake)

Double Lynch: (5/18)
~OpZ~
Vivi57
johnnyspazz
Foolishness
Scamp

Non-Voters:
Everyone else

Voting ends in approximately 24 hours. If there are any mistakes here please let me know.


I updated the voting. Kinda worried with the almost bandwagon on sidesprang. Remember to vote for double lynch guys!
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 02 2010 16:47 GMT
#2725
On March 02 2010 11:52 Foolishness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 10:38 Versatile wrote:
yes, let's lynch me and waste an actual sumi lynch, scamp. that's smart.

the very fact that i've had no support from any player in any way throughout this entire game should tell you something; i have no allies.

in the event that sumiyoshi win, they have very little to be proud of seeing as how there's been a ridiculous amount of idiocy on both town and gambino side.


It seems to me very little of the players alive right now have had support throughout this game. Outside of the obvious Chez, Opz stands out as one of these players (had constant support from a sumiyoshi Caller), which I mentioned in my analysis.

What can I say, I have amazing clue analysis -_-
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 02 2010 16:55 GMT
#2726
On March 02 2010 13:21 Abenson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 02 2010 10:38 Versatile wrote:
yes, let's lynch me and waste an actual sumi lynch, scamp. that's smart.

the very fact that i've had no support from any player in any way throughout this entire game should tell you something; i have no allies.

in the event that sumiyoshi win, they have very little to be proud of seeing as how there's been a ridiculous amount of idiocy on both town and gambino side.


You are voting for someone who is a confirmed innocent(ignoring GF possibilities obviously). How ironic is it that you are talking about wasting votes when you yourself are also wasting votes on a green. Obviously Chez is a DT, there's been no one contesting him.

Versatile seems really sketchy, but he did claim bodyguard, so I'm not sure we should kill him.



can i ask you something? in what twisted, dumb ass world do you ignore a serious possibility?

"oi, they're innocent as long as you ignore the GF possibility". WHY THE HELL would you ignore a part of the equation?

wtf? how do you people not see the weaknesses in your arguments?
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 02 2010 17:03 GMT
#2727
On March 02 2010 13:27 Scamp wrote:
Versatile, when have you needed support? Give me a good answer to that and I'll remove my suspicion.

I also like the idiocy you so subtly hint at when you've done nothing all game to warrant such a statement. Come up with something brilliant to save the town or else you're mired in here with the rest of us.


Abenson: Claiming BG doesn't mean jack. Also why are you voting for Opz? Doing that just makes me want to kill you.

you want something brilliant? you want the town to win?

foolishness is mafia. not only is he mafia, he is the mafia GF. end of story. you guys wanna win, vote foolishness.

chez, you have a mafia in your ranks.

scamp, i'm pretty sure you're just playing like a stupid townie. you're trusting all the wrong people.

further, based on voting patterns and posting, i've determined that ~opz~=innocent and xelin= possible innocent. add that to scamp and chez and me being innocent, and there's only two more townies out there.

johnnyspazz and foolishness are mafia, ixnay them. that's 8 people left, 6 of whom are mafia, 2 of whom are innocent.

if we can coordinate, we still have a chance of winning. but for goodness sake vote foolishness if you're serious about the town winning.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 02 2010 17:11 GMT
#2728
L said this.

"Quite frankly, it has to do with this black liquid, and here’s where the analysis gets interesting; If Malongo is innocent, then Chez is guilty. If Chez is guilty than Malongo’s innocent. I’m not at all certain of this clue link, so I was forced to make an entirely seperate team profile."

I think he had a good point. Because if we prove Chez innocent, we have his circle...which I dunno how true that is, but what about Malongo then?

Think it still applies?
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 02 2010 17:16 GMT
#2729
Also if a medic DID protect johnny and also trusts that I am not mafia (a double scenario that is unlikely) then would they please PM and let me know because it would be enough to change my vote//mind on Johnny. As it is I see no reason why the townies would not vote for him.
Adonai bless
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 02 2010 17:19 GMT
#2730
@ opz: malongo is mafia. he's a mafia who claimed BG. however, he's barely posting now because, from what i gather, he lives in Chile? if so, my prayers are with him and everyone else affected by this crisis.

but since he's not posting, he shouldn't be our main concern. we can lynch him later. we need to lynch mafia who are actively trying to mislead the town. ie) foolishness.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 02 2010 17:26 GMT
#2731
As for foolishness I am somewhat confused on him, did he not PM people to persuade them not to vote for L. L turned out to be Gambino which is evidence against the idea of Foolish being sumiyoshi although it is still possible.
Although given how Chezinu seems to me likely to be mafia I have to assume he would be sumiyoshi if this were the case as otherwise there would simply be more votes to lynch him (votes from sumiyoshi members) This seems to me to show that Chezinu is either Sumiyoshi or the detective, and even if he were the detective I would expect sumiyoshi members to try to kill him. Unless he is a townie detective working with the sumiyoshi which in itself would be enough to lynch him.

Am I wrong in any of this thinking, please give thoughts on the matter, townies only, no sumiyoshi posting allowed for at least the next 10 posts xD
Adonai bless
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 02 2010 18:10 GMT
#2732
last post for a little bit, but based on analysis, only one of abenson and sidesprang are mafia. i suspect sidesprang is innocent and getting bandwagoned. so, we need to switch him out for a confirmed mafia. NOTE: i would prefer both of them being swapped out for foolishness and johnny, but i don't think that's feasible at this point. therefore, i suggest foolishness for sidesprang, since somehow some of you have decided johnnyspazz is worth saving.

my stance on this johnny thing: there's another gambino out there, one who's been smart enough to keep himself alive and hidden this entire time. who cares which gambino is alive as mafia is mafia. we want them all dead eventually, and to me, killing a confirmed mafia is smarter than killing a possible towny.

this is my list: there is, at most, one wrong name in each list, and if votes don't change, that will be cleared up in a few hours. thing is, after this lynch and night, sumi will most likely outnumber us and they'll run the town.

Mafia:
Foolishness
Johnnyspazz
Malongo
Dozko
Madnessman
Vivi
Abenson

Towny:
Chez
Scamp
Versatile
Opz
Shockeyy
Xelin
Sidesprang


just seriously read, think about, and PROCESS what i'm writing. look @ posts, voting patterns, and ignore wtf has been PMed to you. that's where a lot of you get mislead and end up effing the town.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Versatile
Profile Joined November 2008
United States396 Posts
March 02 2010 18:11 GMT
#2733
On March 01 2010 19:11 Scamp wrote:
Hey Foolishness, guess what? I just went through all of your posts and it seems to me that the case you made against Opz applies to yourself as well.

Opz made half-ass contributions to the game? Your contributions consist of the last second voting analysis and often stating "NO ONE CARES." By the way, what happened to that analysis? Way to bring it up and then never go back to it again.

Mafia plan: Come in when people are talking about you, make a few posts, disappear again. This is what you said, this is also what you've done. Maybe not to the extent where you only show when people are talking about you, but I noticed Ver pegging you on a small list of Sumiyoshi suspects.

Mafia plan: Kill people who are suspicious of you. Well guess who was killed: Ver. And guess who used Ver's analysis post-death as a reason to go after tree.hugger: You. Interesting. And guess who Ver suspected: You.

Your whole argument against Opz revolves around what Caller said way back early in the game. It really seems to me that Caller was talking about Opz in previous games, but you took it and made a really long argument with it about how he was expected to provide clue analysis. Because one person said so. The only part that seems clear to me is that Opz needs to participate more. That's pretty much it. Except perhaps the voting record.

So Opz hasn't voted for anyone that's mafia with the exception of Quickstriker. Guess who else fits that profile? You. Technically you get points for voting QS over redtooth, and I guess you voted for Bill Murray for mayor despite him not having a snowball's chance at that point. But you still have a highly suspicious record that now needs to be addressed.

Finally, you never explained why you voted for me yesterday other than to say that I'm more likely to be mafia over L and Chezinu. That's not what's wrong. You also mentioned MULTIPLE TIMES that L is CLEARLY INNOCENT and apparently you're trying to brush by that fact. You also were asked MULTIPLE TIMES by me to clarify HOW CHEZINU HAS PROVEN HIMSELF and you've just not addressed that at all.

Also nice contribution by telling J-spazz to just stop posting when he brought something up against Shockeyy.


So let's face it.....you really don't have the right to accuse someone like this when there's a lot of things you simply haven't addressed that have come up against you. I'd like an explanation please.


PS: scamp.... you caught foolishness in a BIG ASS lie and let him talk his way out of it. c'mon. you seriously can't think this guy is innocent.
"Over night The Conspiracy moves to eliminate a major threat to their plans. Many important officials are kidnapped and tortured, civilians are bombed and they use the spare ice to make delicious snow capped ice cream cones. Alas, someone has to die!"
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
March 02 2010 18:18 GMT
#2734
On March 03 2010 02:26 XeliN wrote:
As for foolishness I am somewhat confused on him, did he not PM people to persuade them not to vote for L. L turned out to be Gambino which is evidence against the idea of Foolish being sumiyoshi although it is still possible.
Although given how Chezinu seems to me likely to be mafia I have to assume he would be sumiyoshi if this were the case as otherwise there would simply be more votes to lynch him (votes from sumiyoshi members) This seems to me to show that Chezinu is either Sumiyoshi or the detective, and even if he were the detective I would expect sumiyoshi members to try to kill him. Unless he is a townie detective working with the sumiyoshi which in itself would be enough to lynch him.

Am I wrong in any of this thinking, please give thoughts on the matter, townies only, no sumiyoshi posting allowed for at least the next 10 posts xD


I did PM people to persuade them not to kill L. Abenson just vouched for me. If you think I didn't because you didn't get a PM, it's because you hadn't voted for L at the time. I didn't mass send out the PM like L did earlier in the game when he killed redtooth, that's not my style. I only PM people who I think can be convinced.

How can you guys doubt that Chezinu is the DT? We still going on about this? The inactivity in the town right now and lack of voting shows we are probably not voting for the right people. If you look back at my first mafia game (pyrry was host) the town was in the exact same predicament as right now (we needed to lynch two mafia otherwise it was game over). I called out two people as mafia (one was l10f as I recall) and nobody wanted to believe me about it. The town was further inactive besides a few people and the votes were piled on to two people without any changes. Needless to say a townie got lynched and the mafia won soon after. You guys are only repeating history here.

And yes while it is possible for me to be a GF, I'm the only one here pointing out the facts and trying to save this town (Chez is working behind the scenes I'm sure). Versatile's posting above is just him saying "I know who's mafia I'm right and you're wrong". No facts or anything. I'm probably going to lol when one of abenson or sidesprang turns up innocent (if they were both mafia, don't you think at least one of them would be trying to defend themselves in the thread?)
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
March 02 2010 18:21 GMT
#2735
On March 03 2010 03:10 Versatile wrote:
last post for a little bit, but based on analysis, only one of abenson and sidesprang are mafia. i suspect sidesprang is innocent and getting bandwagoned. so, we need to switch him out for a confirmed mafia. NOTE: i would prefer both of them being swapped out for foolishness and johnny, but i don't think that's feasible at this point. therefore, i suggest foolishness for sidesprang, since somehow some of you have decided johnnyspazz is worth saving.


Well I'm glad someone else noticed this. But honestly the rest of your post is ridiculous. And what lie to Scamp catch me in? I explained everything to him. You're taking pot shots at confirmed innocents because you really feel I'm the GF. Even if Chez has inspected the GF already, there's still 5 mafia out there to kill. There's no need to figure out who the GF is at this point. We don't even have to kill him to win, all we got to do is find the other 5 mafia.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
dozko
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom160 Posts
March 02 2010 19:19 GMT
#2736
Seriously why the hell are people voting for jspazz now that there are only two gambinos in total and hes most likely one of them, thats basically inviting the risk of a gg on this very night. Seeing as how Xelin is and im pretty sure hes sumiyoshi, its strange that versatile - inactive for 99% of the game and suddenly preaching "mafia messiah" - also votes for him.
People respond to incentives; the rest is commentary.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
March 02 2010 20:20 GMT
#2737
Expain why in your opinion johnny is a gambino.

I would ask you to explain why you suspect me as well but i think changing your mind on the matter is not a possibility, you are set in your belief I am mafia so I guess thats that. I would suggest you are mafia if it were not for the fact you also were adamant that I was mafia in the last game we played in and I in turn took that to mean you were mafia (as i knew i was not in that game) and it turned out you were townie as well so at least that is consistent.
Adonai bless
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 02 2010 20:46 GMT
#2738
On March 03 2010 05:20 XeliN wrote:
Expain why in your opinion johnny is a gambino.

I would ask you to explain why you suspect me as well but i think changing your mind on the matter is not a possibility, you are set in your belief I am mafia so I guess thats that. I would suggest you are mafia if it were not for the fact you also were adamant that I was mafia in the last game we played in and I in turn took that to mean you were mafia (as i knew i was not in that game) and it turned out you were townie as well so at least that is consistent.


L SAID JOHNNY WAS GAMBINO AND L WAS GAMBINO

how many times must this be said!?!?!
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
March 02 2010 20:52 GMT
#2739
We need three more votes for double lynch. If you don't for it, you are pretty much clearly mafia.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
March 02 2010 21:33 GMT
#2740
On March 03 2010 05:52 ~OpZ~ wrote:
We need three more votes for double lynch. If you don't for it, you are pretty much clearly mafia.


There's only 15 players alive, so we only need 8 votes. But yes, vote for double lynch.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
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