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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 22 2010 22:31 GMT
#421
I am going out in a second, I will make a post going over all the reasons why I consider Quickstriker Mafia, citing his posts and explaining my interpretation e.t.c doing this means ransacking the entire thread so far and collecting it together in one post, so I will have it done tomorrow.

Actually if i am killed by Mafia by then I won't be able to, in a hypothetical where i am killed b4 posting then plz give serious thought to lynching Quick Dozko and i would suggest Shockeyy as well.
Adonai bless
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 22 2010 22:34 GMT
#422
On January 23 2010 07:31 XeliN wrote:
I am going out in a second, I will make a post going over all the reasons why I consider Quickstriker Mafia, citing his posts and explaining my interpretation e.t.c doing this means ransacking the entire thread so far and collecting it together in one post, so I will have it done tomorrow.

Actually if i am killed by Mafia by then I won't be able to, in a hypothetical where i am killed b4 posting then plz give serious thought to lynching Quick Dozko and i would suggest Shockeyy as well.

you have 7 hours T_T
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 22 2010 22:38 GMT
#423
whoops, nevermind 7-19 hours depending on BC
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
January 22 2010 22:55 GMT
#424
about inactives: Don't worry. Any inactive players are going to be banned from future Mafia games anyway.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 22 2010 23:13 GMT
#425
Alright guys, I'm back now so I'm gonna look some things over of events that happened throughout the day though there isn't anything worth noting since I already said everything I needed to, and I just want the night to pass so the real conversation starts during the day.

But Xelin is interesting the fact he is continuously targeting me onwards disregarding several facts that I will note soon once I compile and explain the flaws and big possible mistakes in his plan, which then can reverse the suspicious toward him. So give me a moment.

On January 23 2010 07:55 Ace wrote:
about inactives: Don't worry. Any inactive players are going to be banned from future Mafia games anyway.


Thank you. Honestly if this mafia game was within the entire TL community, they also deserved to ban from TL at least for a month or forever, but since it isn't....
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Gabriel
Profile Joined December 2008
149 Posts
January 22 2010 23:19 GMT
#426
Ok i just read everything.
We lost a DT with bad luck. Im just wondering how important are the first mafia hits* and what is sheriff/mayors plan from now on /incarcelation?/. Adding some notes about what could be clues from day 1:

"With a quick attack, the Sheriff Ace collapsed to the ground. His mind raced towards the possibilities of what happened, and he reached for his gun. But before he could begin, the figure drew overtop of him and the sheriff was done"

"As he explored the nearby rooms he moved back to the hall and made his way back towards his office. It was then that he saw something on the ground by the window at the end of the hall. Moving towards it, he saw that it was a broken flower vase, with its contents now spread across the carpet, as well as the pieces of the pottery. It was then he felt a rush of air behind him, and something sink into his shoulder. The mayor vx70GTOJudgexv cried out, and crumpled dead to the floor."


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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 22 2010 23:20 GMT
#427
On January 23 2010 06:21 XeliN wrote:
Shockey interesting point, and a sound argument (this is sarcasm), but you have tempted me to put forward another interesting little proposition.

I will happily consent to being lynched first on one condition, If I am lynched and it turns out I am, as I claim to be, a humble Green Townie, then quickstriker and dozko will be the next people lynched.

to add a further condition, say I am lynched first and am a townie, then the town decides to lynch Quickstriker and he is also a townie, then my condition of lynching them both is void and as I would have been wrong on quickstriker in this hypothesis then dozko would not be lynched.

So to emphasise, two propositions

If the town agree to lynch Quickstriker and Dozko first and one of them is not Mafia, Then I propose that I be the next person to be lynched

OR

I propose that I be the first person lynched on the one simple condition that If I am innocent then Dozko and Quickstriker will be lynched next

I would prefer the first but am completely happy to do the second as well. Dying sucks but i think i would be greatly helping the town by doing so in this instance.



We're going to be making judgments based on facts. This idea is counter-productive and distracting, and I would not vote for it.

Let's be a little more rational here. I think the suggestions for the DT are quite sound, and hopefully already in practice. It's a little difficult to figure out any kind of mafia-proof formula for the medics to follow, but hopefully they'll have a little luck and a knack of guessing.

I'll try to be on a bit, but I just flew to school today and tomorrow I'll be moving back in. But around evening tomorrow, I'll be able to kick the mafia out of our beloved town.
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ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
January 22 2010 23:21 GMT
#428
Lol Xelin, I have more things on you than me. I have posted way more things that urge you being the mafia.
Life?
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 22 2010 23:23 GMT
#429
On January 23 2010 08:19 toplexa wrote:
Ok i just read everything.
We lost a DT with bad luck. Im just wondering how important are the first mafia hits* and what is sheriff/mayors plan from now on /incarcelation?/. Adding some notes about what could be clues from day 1:

"With a quick attack, the Sheriff Ace collapsed to the ground. His mind raced towards the possibilities of what happened, and he reached for his gun. But before he could begin, the figure drew overtop of him and the sheriff was done"

"As he explored the nearby rooms he moved back to the hall and made his way back towards his office. It was then that he saw something on the ground by the window at the end of the hall. Moving towards it, he saw that it was a broken flower vase, with its contents now spread across the carpet, as well as the pieces of the pottery. It was then he felt a rush of air behind him, and something sink into his shoulder. The mayor vx70GTOJudgexv cried out, and crumpled dead to the floor."



Now that I realize and see this. These might be clues as well, perhaps even more meaning clues than what "no_re" pointed out. Hmm... very interesting and good find. Impressive toplexa!
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
January 22 2010 23:24 GMT
#430
Just finished getting ready so just before i pop out let me note this. I have made it clear that I am willing and perfectly happy to have the Town lynch me, on a simple condition.

With this, and everything else I have posted in mind, take QuickStrikers compilation with a pinch of salt, although hopefully i will be around to analyse it as well.

Caio!
Adonai bless
Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
January 22 2010 23:24 GMT
#431
I agree with Crescentia, I doubt the Godfather would run, but obviously the Godfather will be someone who has at least voted, even if they haven't posted much in this thread, because of the talk about lynching the completely inactive, and because in order to be elected Godfather, they would probably have needed to talk to the other mafia to convince them to choose the Godfather.

I think the people we should think about lynching are Me, Xelin, Fulgrim, tree.hugger and Crescentia, because I'm pretty sure the Mafia would at least try to get someone elected.

I like the Idea of the DTs making an inner circle.

And last think I can think of right now, If either the mayor/sheriff are DTs, they could tell us, because they can't be killed by the Mafia right? we have to lynch them. for any other role they could just lie (if they were the Mafia), but its not hard to prove your a DT to the public if you have protection.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 22 2010 23:29 GMT
#432
On January 23 2010 08:24 XeliN wrote:
Just finished getting ready so just before i pop out let me note this. I have made it clear that I am willing and perfectly happy to have the Town lynch me, on a simple condition.

With this, and everything else I have posted in mind, take QuickStrikers compilation with a pinch of salt, although hopefully i will be around to analyse it as well.

Caio!

I am amused by this. I will make my small simple case as well then. The fact that you're so early and EAGER to point fingers this early when the ideal situation is to wait out for the next 3 clues to come for the next 3 days from Night 1 really amuses me. I'm sure by that time, people will start ignoring and forget everything talked about in the past, but the fact that you are (like repeated) so EAGER to have your statement across in your exact manner of suggestion of "oh vote me out then those 2 or those 2 then me" really amuses me. I already repeated countless times in detail so allow me to say it in a simple form:

What exact proof do you have and what exact mind do you think any one of us is mafia? The clues are clue, but in your own words, you see it as the ABSOLUTE truth and not care to think of other possibility whatsoever of these people not being mafia, but a townie, or even a blue role such as DT, medic, bodyguard, or etc. What makes you that much more confident in contrast to everyone else as a suspect?

Everyone, I will come and say this, do not be fooled by such person with minds who is only looking at a single path direction without looking to the sides or other paths to follow. It makes my mind boil to see such simple minded person in such a game like this. I honestly don't want to follow the repeat of TL Mafia VII once more.
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Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
January 22 2010 23:30 GMT
#433
and also, I think that people who accuse/encourage just for the sake of accusing (no real/reasonable argument, or just because they don't like them for whatever reason) are either dumb, or they are trying to stir people up and get them pissed off at whoever, in order to hurt the town (so they are potentially Mafia). Unlike the Mafia, they are uninformed of who their allies are. So they should stop doing that.
d3_crescentia
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4054 Posts
January 22 2010 23:30 GMT
#434
On January 23 2010 08:19 toplexa wrote:
Ok i just read everything.
We lost a DT with bad luck. Im just wondering how important are the first mafia hits* and what is sheriff/mayors plan from now on /incarcelation?/. Adding some notes about what could be clues from day 1:

"With a quick attack, the Sheriff Ace collapsed to the ground. His mind raced towards the possibilities of what happened, and he reached for his gun. But before he could begin, the figure drew overtop of him and the sheriff was done"

"As he explored the nearby rooms he moved back to the hall and made his way back towards his office. It was then that he saw something on the ground by the window at the end of the hall. Moving towards it, he saw that it was a broken flower vase, with its contents now spread across the carpet, as well as the pieces of the pottery. It was then he felt a rush of air behind him, and something sink into his shoulder. The mayor vx70GTOJudgexv cried out, and crumpled dead to the floor."

As Sheriff I don't have a concrete plan for using incarceration yet. My thoughts so far are to use it on Mafia suspects in the mid/late game and checking for KP reduction as a means for checking roles.

Could you go into more detail about the first clue? I'm not sure what or who this could suggest.
once, not long ago, there was a moon here
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 22 2010 23:32 GMT
#435
On January 23 2010 08:24 Iaaan wrote:
I agree with Crescentia, I doubt the Godfather would run, but obviously the Godfather will be someone who has at least voted, even if they haven't posted much in this thread, because of the talk about lynching the completely inactive, and because in order to be elected Godfather, they would probably have needed to talk to the other mafia to convince them to choose the Godfather.

I think the people we should think about lynching are Me, Xelin, Fulgrim, tree.hugger and Crescentia, because I'm pretty sure the Mafia would at least try to get someone elected.

I like the Idea of the DTs making an inner circle.

And last think I can think of right now, If either the mayor/sheriff are DTs, they could tell us, because they can't be killed by the Mafia right? we have to lynch them. for any other role they could just lie (if they were the Mafia), but its not hard to prove your a DT to the public if you have protection.

The idea of DT for inner circle is a big ideal situation that we have to take at this moment as I laid and mentioned it several times.

The Godfather wouldn't run like you stated b/c he can already fool everyone who his role is. That's why the DT also have to realize that their role check on a person and comes out clean can't be 100% certain for sure b/c of a possibility that it's a Godfather using his powers to fool you. But the possibility of that is 1/33 which is low....

The mayor/sheriff can be killed by the mafia during the nighttime if and only if ALL BODYGUARDS are killed first. We don't know who or how many there are....
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johnnyspazz
Profile Joined April 2009
Taiwan1470 Posts
January 22 2010 23:37 GMT
#436
can someone explain the high lighted portions of toplexa's post? i fail to see the importance of them
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QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 22 2010 23:39 GMT
#437
On January 23 2010 08:37 johnnyspazz wrote:
can someone explain the high lighted portions of toplexa's post? i fail to see the importance of them

I'm waiting to have toplexa himself to explain it to the public. It is another possibility of a clue as a clue told of what the people who died was thinking is a clue itself. But in any case, let's wait and see what he has to say for this as he brought it up.
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SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
January 22 2010 23:47 GMT
#438
ouch, just came back and saw we lynched a DT.
that kind of sucks but I don't think it should be an argument to doubt on our mayor just yet. (of course we can't trust him fully but the fact he lynched an inactive that happened to be blue is just bad luck).
I think we can safely guess that there are more DTs, from what I saw in the old threads, there are generally 1 DT for 3 mafia members, and since this is a noob game I think they should have rounded it up = there should be 3 DTs this game (2 now).

About the DT guidelines that have been posted, beware of the godfather. if he chooses to appear as a DT and you rolecheck him and you decide to trust him, you're in deep shit.

I wonder what will happen tonight, of course having 3 murders sound awefull for the town but at the same time it will leave lots of clues to work with.

About some guys under heavy suspicion like QS or Xelin, you are prime targets for the mafia I think, so every aditional night that you survive will make you exponentially more suspect. Not pointing anybody yet but it is a fact.

Now I would like to adress to the town.
There are alot of inactive players, we can all see that. if you're lurking and seing, trying to think about clues on your own, but not really participating because you got "the boring role" (green).

Stop.

We must all remeber the objectif of the game, it's for your TEAM to win. If your team won, then, no matter if you're alive or dead, you won too. In the next rounds, blue roles will be forced to get some spotlight, to give clues to the town. But if they're the only ones posting, they will become prime targets for the mafia. And that's where you kick in, if you're not blue, you can still pretend you are. Be loud, make the mafia watch you. Even if you die, your posts and the ideas that you've put into the thread will continue posted and people reading over it will see them and re-present them if they are still valid.

Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
January 22 2010 23:50 GMT
#439
I approve and endorse the suggestion made by the above poster.
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Iaaan
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada578 Posts
January 22 2010 23:56 GMT
#440
On January 23 2010 08:47 SagaZ wrote:

About some guys under heavy suspicion like QS or Xelin, you are prime targets for the mafia I think, so every aditional night that you survive will make you exponentially more suspect. Not pointing anybody yet but it is a fact.





I strongly disagree with this, anyone under suspicion (assuming they aren't actually Mafia) should be the last person they want to kill: why kill someone if the town will lynch them for you? A better idea for them would be to kill people that would throw suspicion on someone else, rather than taking the suspicion away.
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