On January 21 2010 01:37 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
So as we see it now, whoever is elected mayor should be lynching Hobbes? That first lynch can't go to waste and he's definitely the most suspicious as of now.

There are also 5 other mafia not described in clues from this post, keep that in mind.

Also, who all is running?

t_co (platform is mafia experience)
myself (platform is going along with the town, being very active)
meeple (platform isn't really anything at all)
citi.zen (platform is going along with the town/being helpful)

This is actually the first explicit instance of someone calling to for a specific position (the mayor) to lynch Hobbes, saying that the first lynch can't go to waste when the lynch vote is actually 20+ hours away. Note that only 5 people out of 66 have been actively analyzing Hobbes here.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 20 2010 19:29 GMT

#244

Several people have said the mayor should lynch hobbes as things are.

I was asking if that is the case based on how we see things now. I'm fully aware the mayors lynch is a long ways away and that speculation could radically change by then. I'm not trying to push Hobbes here, I'm just trying to keep track of what the current town consensus is.

Bill Murray

United States9292 Posts

January 20 2010 19:29 GMT

#245

t_co, why is it that you're trying to turn the town against each other?
i wonder

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 20 2010 19:29 GMT

#246

also 5 out of 66? i believe there are 34 players

789

United States959 Posts

January 20 2010 19:30 GMT

#247

The groups got split in half, we don't have 66 people in our mafia. You're still right about there only a few of us analyzing though.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 20 2010 19:30 GMT

#248

Are we getting a new set of clues tonight?

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 20 2010 19:31 GMT

#249

not until day 2 i believe

Bill Murray

United States9292 Posts

January 20 2010 19:33 GMT

#250

call me paranoid, but i'm eyeballing everyone voting for T_CO

List of suspicious people

T_CO,
StimiLant,
Faronel,
the cookiemonster,
and i'm going to throw Hobbes in there too

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 20 2010 19:41 GMT

#251

Most of them were already mentioned at some point, but it is worth noting StimiLant and cookie vote the same way. We will see.

t_co

United States702 Posts

January 20 2010 19:42 GMT

#252

On January 21 2010 04:33 Bill Murray wrote:
call me paranoid, but i'm eyeballing everyone voting for T_CO

List of suspicious people

T_CO,
StimiLant,
Faronel,
the cookiemonster,
and i'm going to throw Hobbes in there too

It's highly likely that the mafia is intelligent enough to spread their votes between two or three candidates, reserving their votes until the end to tip the scales in favor of their candidate.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 20 2010 19:43 GMT

#253

I agree with t_co, I don't think voting record is really going to give us anything substantial. It's worth noting for the future though.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 20 2010 19:44 GMT

#254

I mean, let's say citi.zen is elected mayor. We eventually suspect him of being mafia and lynch him and it turns out he is. Then we should examine who voted for him as probably a few of them are mafia. Then we can compare that list to clues and such

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 20 2010 19:45 GMT

#255

Maybe they used reverse psychology thought. Or reverse-reverse psychology! Yeah, this is isn't going to get me closer to the answer is it...

Back to the clues it is!

t_co

United States702 Posts

January 20 2010 19:46 GMT

#256

On January 21 2010 04:29 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
also 5 out of 66? i believe there are 34 players

My mistake. Still, the point is, rushing to ask people to lynch off the voices of a substantial minority and 1 day's worth of clues is kind of suicidal. It takes 2 points to draw a line, after all. With 4 mafia clues per day and only 8 mafia total, it shouldn't take that long for more mafia clues to pile up that point us in a better direction.

Cruel as it may sound, the first day lynch matters little in the long run, because the town is still at 34 members and the mafia only at 8, which means there is a substantial margin of error available to us.

citi.zen

2509 Posts

January 20 2010 19:46 GMT

#257

On January 21 2010 04:44 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I mean, let's say citi.zen is elected mayor. We eventually suspect him of being mafia and lynch him and it turns out he is. Then we should examine who voted for him as probably a few of them are mafia. Then we can compare that list to clues and such

That's a good point. Does this mean mafiosi are more likely to bandwagon to "blend in"?

t_co

United States702 Posts

January 20 2010 19:47 GMT

#258

That's a good start. The best way to analyze that list would be to look at voting order. It would make sense for mafia suspects to have the last or the later votes for a mafia candidate, so that they could get just enough votes to push him in without risking the entire group getting exposed through that candidate's voting list.

DoctorHelvetica

United States15034 Posts

January 20 2010 19:48 GMT

#259

Well someone has to be lynched right? Can the mayor pass on lynching and if so do we want to waste that opportunity? I don't want to rush anyone towards a suspect, in fact I think we should do the opposite. Keep our cool and take this time to think our decision out. However, I do think at the end of the day we need to make a decision.

There are 7 mafia not 8 btw