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United States47024 Posts
On October 10 2014 14:30 foxmeep wrote:
Not sure how people can pick Blue over White... White has hands down looked like the best team at Worlds. In the two games they lost it simply looked like they dropped the ball, the following games they got it together and completely dominated.
People said the exact same thing the last 2 times they met in OGN.
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Plus, its really that this worlds has shown that it is full of teams that are liars. OMG was like the 8th or 9th best team going into quarters, but played like a top 3 team. White shield looked decent, probably 4th best, and probably would have lost to every other quarterfinalist team if they played at the level they did. Alliance was probably the most inconsistent team at the tournament, which is like the inverse of their hallmark!
Its all lies.
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Royal 3-2 imo. OMG will out comp um in 3 of the 5 games, Royal will just win cuz muh better mechanics.
SSW 3-0 stomp over SSB.
I don't like believe in the whole "past record" bullshit. SSW just looks that much better than SSB.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
I'd counter-argue that white has had arguably the most cushy run. AHQ, dark passage, slumping EDG and freeSM while blue has had LMQ, Fnatic, OMG and C9
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On October 10 2014 14:30 foxmeep wrote:
Not sure how people can pick Blue over White... White has hands down looked like the best team at Worlds. In the two games they lost it simply looked like they dropped the ball, the following games they got it together and completely dominated.
Never underestimate the power of sister-teamkills.
same thing happened in SEA for a while; TPA was obviously the better team, but TPS kept winning in head-to-heads.
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OMG should be big favourites against SHRC. With an actual support player they are the strongest team in China. They know how to deal with SHRC and I'm pretty sure the minute that things don't go StarHorn's way that team will implode (like they almost did against EDG).
SSW vs SSB is honestly too close to call. White have looked better but Blue have a history of beating them (though 2 series is hardly a trend, people read way too much into sports statistics that have tiny sample sizes all the time). It could go either way but I have a feeling White just want it more after how they embarrassed themselves last year, which to me gives them the edge.
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
On October 10 2014 21:59 krndandaman wrote:
I believe white will beat blue simply because dade is not allowed to become the 1st player to win 2 worlds before faker does. same way he didn't become the 1st player to win back to back ogn's.
#fuckdade
don't really have anything against the guy but I love rooting against him for some reason
But dade hadn't won worlds ;/
On October 10 2014 16:19 Goragoth wrote:
OMG should be big favourites against SHRC. With an actual support player they are the strongest team in China. They know how to deal with SHRC and I'm pretty sure the minute that things don't go StarHorn's way that team will implode (like they almost did against EDG).
SSW vs SSB is honestly too close to call. White have looked better but Blue have a history of beating them (though 2 series is hardly a trend, people read way too much into sports statistics that have tiny sample sizes all the time). It could go either way but I have a feeling White just want it more after how they embarrassed themselves last year, which to me gives them the edge.
White lost 3 from 11 bo5 series this season, Blue lost 1 from 8.
2 of White losses are against Blue, and it wasn't close first time, second time White had to win, but meh.
People every time go with "Uh, White just destroyed K, Blue barely won against Stealths/Frost, score is liability, Spirit and Deft are going to get exposed".
Then PawN chokes, imp picks MF against full engage team, DanDy throws, Looper loses tp wars to Acorn and Mata is rather disappointed in the corner.
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Dade actually did the opposite of win worlds. He fed really hard against white people. Like "everyone report dade 9x" level of feed.
I'm going with White 3 - 0, OMG 3 - 0. Hopefully I'm wrong and we get some sick 5 game series.
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OMG-SHRC might be closer than people think. Teams usually have to laneswap against Uzero, and that could lead to GoGoing being shut down, which takes one of OMG's major advantages away from them. Plus, you have to assume Uzi is going to hard carry at least one game just from sheer testicular fortitude. Still saying 3-2 OMG, but everyone who predicts a 3-0 stomp is in for a big surprise.
Calling 3-1 Blue win, though. White too cocky, Blue punishes even the tiniest mistakes.
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On October 11 2014 00:14 BrownBear wrote:
OMG-SHRC might be closer than people think. Teams usually have to laneswap against Uzero, and that could lead to GoGoing being shut down, which takes one of OMG's major advantages away from them. Plus, you have to assume Uzi is going to hard carry at least one game just from sheer testicular fortitude. Still saying 3-2 OMG, but everyone who predicts a 3-0 stomp is in for a big surprise.
Calling 3-1 Blue win, though. White too cocky, Blue punishes even the tiniest mistakes.
The advantages that OMG holds over Royal is that OMG can "succeed" in proper lane. Cool and Gogoing >>>>>>>>>>>> Cola and Corn, while San will play so safe that he won't die in lane, he will just give up farm to hold Uzi Zero in lane as long as possible. This will limit the amount of botlane impact that Royal has and essentially neutralize the explosive early/mid game aggression, which is what Royal uses to win most of their games. OMG 3-0ed a Korean team(yes I know they weren't in the form they qualified the worlds in), but Royal almost lost to extremely slumping Namei and the EDG squad. If they both play the same level that they did in quarters, I don't see Royal standing any chance.
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On October 11 2014 00:33 krndandaman wrote:
also cloud has been freed.
this isn't the same OMG from groups.
#4v5training
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
SHRC winning 3:1 and getting owned 0:3 in Grand Final. This is the real scenario that I can think of. Anyway I'm just looking for good and close games, hoping we'll have to watch 5 games each series.
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I don't see it on the TL Calendar. either someone hasn't put in into it yet or i have to check my options.
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I honestly can't predict OMG-RC, partially because I'm a fan of OMG, partially because both these teams are unstable and inconsistent. We might have a close semifinal with Insec fighting toe to toe with Chinese Insec, Corn/Cola trying to hold their own against Cool/Gogoing and Cloud protecting San from Zero/uhzhiai, or we might have a close semifinal with RC botlane trying to outcarry OMG's solos+jungle, or just a stomp from either team because one shows up and other doesn't... All these possibilites look just as probable to me. I don't really care about Samsungs all that much but I'm more confident in Blue, they just seem way more polished.
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United States47024 Posts
On October 10 2014 22:55 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 22:21 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:On October 10 2014 21:59 krndandaman wrote:
I believe white will beat blue simply because dade is not allowed to become the 1st player to win 2 worlds before faker does. same way he didn't become the 1st player to win back to back ogn's.
#fuckdade
don't really have anything against the guy but I love rooting against him for some reason But dade hadn't won worlds ;/ On October 10 2014 16:19 Goragoth wrote:
OMG should be big favourites against SHRC. With an actual support player they are the strongest team in China. They know how to deal with SHRC and I'm pretty sure the minute that things don't go StarHorn's way that team will implode (like they almost did against EDG).
SSW vs SSB is honestly too close to call. White have looked better but Blue have a history of beating them (though 2 series is hardly a trend, people read way too much into sports statistics that have tiny sample sizes all the time). It could go either way but I have a feeling White just want it more after how they embarrassed themselves last year, which to me gives them the edge. White lost 3 from 11 bo5 series this season, Blue lost 1 from 8. 2 of White losses are against Blue, and it wasn't close first time, second time White had to win, but meh. People every time go with "Uh, White just destroyed K, Blue barely won against Stealths/Frost, score is liability, Spirit and Deft are going to get exposed". Then PawN chokes, imp picks MF against full engage team, DanDy throws, Looper loses tp wars to Acorn and Mata is rather disappointed in the corner. oh woops, dunno why I thought that. I remembered a while back that I was watching dade's possible milestones and probably mistakened it with back to back ogn's + worlds. im just salty that skt isn't in worlds 
Even if it were true, it makes no sense because Dade was on the last iteration of White with Imp Mata Dandy Looper. Dade losing means the 4 of them winning.
Basically you're just a Dade hater.
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whoever wins the first game of the china semifinals takes the set
blue reverse sweeps white 3-2
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I want imp to win so I can see piglet cry
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EPT
