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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 28 2014 09:25 GMT
#7461
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 28 2014 09:26 GMT
#7462
On September 28 2014 18:22 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 18:21 Slaughter wrote:
On September 28 2014 18:20 Redox wrote:
On September 28 2014 18:20 Slaughter wrote:
On September 28 2014 18:19 skykh wrote:
All european teams out haha, fuck you alliance deserve to lose. Always hate teams underestimate teams.


? Fnatic and Alliance can both still make it.

More likely they are both out though.


If C9 bans Lee/Irelia then yes lol.

dont they have to beat nws first ? thats a big if then

No if C9 lose then they play a playoff game vs Alliance. If C9 win then ALL are out and NWS and C9 play a tiebreaker for 1st/2nd

On September 28 2014 18:23 caelym wrote:
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On September 28 2014 18:22 Doctorbeat wrote:
But tbh C9 wasn't that impressive vs Kabum either.

seems to be that Kabum has good strats, but individual mechanics are trash. they lose teamfights that should be favorable purely through inferior mechanics.

Yeah what I'm seeing as well. Shows good promise though, mechanics/positioning a lot easier to learn than strats/decisionmaking
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
September 28 2014 09:26 GMT
#7463
Fuck Alliance now I want C9 to go through so fucking much ! GO C9 !!
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 09:26:19
September 28 2014 09:26 GMT
#7464
On September 28 2014 18:23 caelym wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 18:22 Doctorbeat wrote:
But tbh C9 wasn't that impressive vs Kabum either.

seems to be that Kabum has good strats, but individual mechanics are trash. they lose teamfights that should be favorable purely through inferior mechanics.


Reminded me more of TPA, good farming & good warding and a general idea of what they should be doing, but executing poorly. Though with a better pick&ban
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skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
September 28 2014 09:26 GMT
#7465
On September 28 2014 18:25 Maluk wrote:
Everyone should be thankful to Alliance for this. Because of Alliance's defeat we will have an other match between NA and EU, therefore breaking the 3-3 tie and finally answering the question that is in everyone's minds : NA > EU or EU > NA ?


Cloud 9 can just beat shield and it's gg. I mean shield can throw on purpose so they can get a tiebreaker when they see who is through on group c so they can manipulate the bracket.
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
September 28 2014 09:26 GMT
#7466
On September 28 2014 18:25 Maluk wrote:
Everyone should be thankful to Alliance for this. Because of Alliance's defeat we will have an other match between NA and EU, therefore breaking the 3-3 tie and finally answering the question that is in everyone's minds : NA > EU or EU > NA ?


LMQ is not from NA (they went 1-1 with Fnatic so it doesn't matter anyways), and SK's loss was not SK's roster

It's 2-1 EU
Strydor
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore95 Posts
September 28 2014 09:26 GMT
#7467
So, is full foreigner a thing in league now?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 28 2014 09:27 GMT
#7468
On September 28 2014 18:21 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 18:19 Slaughter wrote:
On September 28 2014 18:18 TeeTS wrote:
Alliance just sucks. They didn´t ward at all the whole game. OF COURSE YOU GONNA LOSE THAT! Especially if you run a pick comp and play it without vision. Rofl Alliance, you are just terrible. That was without any exaggeration bronze lvl vision from alliance. And that means, they might have great individual players. But they are still a terrible team. They are a joke of a pro team.


Alliance doesn't suck, they are just inconsistent. You already forget their win over Najin?

if i see them succeed when wickd plays anything else than irelia i will agree but for now i think they suck, their ward control is inferior to pretty much every other team in this tournament all they have is mechanics but it doesnt mean much when their team play and champion pool is horrible

You are going off a terrible sample size here. Wickd played a lot of other champs in LCS succesfully.
But even if he was bad on other champs, that still doesnt excuse what Nyph did the whole game or Froggen with his yolo engages and misstimed hourglasses. It was just unbelievably bad play all around and not just about champon picks.
Off-season = best season
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
September 28 2014 09:27 GMT
#7469
On September 28 2014 18:26 ManBaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 18:25 Maluk wrote:
Everyone should be thankful to Alliance for this. Because of Alliance's defeat we will have an other match between NA and EU, therefore breaking the 3-3 tie and finally answering the question that is in everyone's minds : NA > EU or EU > NA ?


LMQ is not from NA (they went 1-1 with Fnatic so it doesn't matter anyways), and SK's loss was not SK's roster

It's 2-1 EU

LMQ spent a split in NA and qualified through NA. They're Chinese in ethnicity but an American team.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
September 28 2014 09:27 GMT
#7470
On September 28 2014 18:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
https://twitter.com/Wickdlol/status/516154776136843265

It's the same feeling I have when I watch him play Kayle
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 09:27:50
September 28 2014 09:27 GMT
#7471
Europe as a professional enviroment seems to be outclassed at worlds. We have some of the best players in the world here, but our teams are playing so bad in terms of mapmovement, strategy, vision control, that we still can´t get anything out of it and lose against amateur/semi pro teams. I hope european teams look at this tournament as a wakeup call like NA teams did last year. It´s way about time to become real professionals or we will completely fall into irrelevance. This worlds have been a disaster for europe in every aspect.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
September 28 2014 09:27 GMT
#7472
On September 28 2014 18:26 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 18:23 caelym wrote:
On September 28 2014 18:22 Doctorbeat wrote:
But tbh C9 wasn't that impressive vs Kabum either.

seems to be that Kabum has good strats, but individual mechanics are trash. they lose teamfights that should be favorable purely through inferior mechanics.


Reminded me more of TPA, good farming & good warding and a general idea of what they should be doing, but executing poorly. Though with a better pick&ban


Their pick/bans have been fantastic, they/their coach come very prepared for each opponent.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 09:29:33
September 28 2014 09:27 GMT
#7473
Tinowns is legit, minerva/dans are pretty good laners (even if dans ran into a few random hooks) but can have pretty meh positioning. LEP was worse than death at the start but when he got onto ryze he suddenly got way better, danagorns is delightfully HAM for a jungler even if his cocoons are sometimes lacking and goes too hard.
Kabum's drafting is so good though, they have better drafts than most LCS and LPL teams
On September 28 2014 18:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Whether or not EU does better than NA at least we can always say "at least we didn't lose to BR"

KR and EU have lost to BR, NA hasn't. NA confirmed the best
Glorious SEA doto
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 28 2014 09:28 GMT
#7474
Whether or not EU does better than NA at least we can always say "at least we didn't lose to BR"
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-28 09:30:02
September 28 2014 09:29 GMT
#7475
WTF did KBM seriously win???

went to watch 6.82 patch analysis instead, can someone tell me what happened?!
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
riyanme
Profile Joined September 2010
Philippines940 Posts
September 28 2014 09:29 GMT
#7476
On September 28 2014 18:26 skykh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 28 2014 18:25 Maluk wrote:
Everyone should be thankful to Alliance for this. Because of Alliance's defeat we will have an other match between NA and EU, therefore breaking the 3-3 tie and finally answering the question that is in everyone's minds : NA > EU or EU > NA ?


Cloud 9 can just beat shield and it's gg. I mean shield can throw on purpose so they can get a tiebreaker when they see who is through on group c so they can manipulate the bracket.

precisely!!!
good win by kabum! much respect to them...
-
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
September 28 2014 09:29 GMT
#7477
"we want to show the world..." - Nyph, yesterday

yes, you made yourself clear.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
September 28 2014 09:29 GMT
#7478
This tournament is such an EU nightmare haha.

SKs chances ruined because svenskeren can't control himself outside the game.
Fnatics chances ruined because 1 auto attack (or homeguard bug ? huehue)
Alliances chances ruined because wickd is a stone ?
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 28 2014 09:29 GMT
#7479
On September 28 2014 18:29 ShootAnonymous wrote:
WTF did KBM seriously win???

Not really. Alliance did lose.
Off-season = best season
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
September 28 2014 09:30 GMT
#7480
On September 28 2014 18:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Whether or not EU does better than NA at least we can always say "at least we didn't lose to BR"


Oh in every aspect besides individual skill, NA is superior to europe. We´ve been carried by that so far, but this doesn´t work out anymore on a regular basis.
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