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On September 25 2014 23:12 ManBaker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:08 Mikau wrote:On September 25 2014 23:06 ManBaker wrote:On September 25 2014 23:03 Mikau wrote:On September 25 2014 22:59 ManBaker wrote:On September 25 2014 22:58 Mikau wrote:On September 25 2014 22:54 ManBaker wrote:On September 25 2014 22:52 Sleight wrote:On September 25 2014 22:51 Numy wrote:
edit TSM is the 2nd best team NA and they gave SHRC a fight. That is pretty bad news for your region. Edit; 3rd place CN beat out 1st place NA? Say what? OMG is 3rd place CN. And they lost to 3rd place NA And they lost the only game they played against the full roster of EU's 3rd seed That's not worrying? but saying that game was anywhere near representative of TSM's powerlevel is silly. lmao. TSM was the one with the handicap?! SK was already eliminated, had their jungle back with which they didn't scrim for 5 days with their morale under their feet, while also having their coach banned, and they won. Who said anything about a handicap? You're putting words in my mouth. if TSM lost while playing anywhere close to their usual level. Which they didn't. This is what you said. That TSM didn't play at their best. i.e. they were on a handicap. Which is irrelevant considering SK was 10 times as much more on a handicap than TSM was. Saying they didn't play at their best is nowhere near saying they're on a handicap. A handicap is an artificial advantage or disadvantage given to a team from the outside. That's not even close to the same as saying TSM played poorly. Holy shit you really can't admit it can you? Alright, even if TSM played poorly, it's still irrelevant because 1) it's your own opinion with no basis whatsoever and 2) SK was STILL on a huge handicap which completely invalidates whatever possible "TSM played poorly" point that you can make. SK, third team in EU with ridiculously huge handicap, already eliminated, beat a TSM in full roster, playing for 1st play. Those are the facts.
Letting Vayne free farm top for 25 minutes. Multiple botched dives on Swain in bot lane. Disorganzied team fights/late teleports. Comparing TSM vs TPA/SHRC (the second time) to the last TSM vs SK game is night and day. Still kinda happy SK won though
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So I was about to post about how Cyanide was actually playing pretty well this game, and then he got completely caught out isolated and killed, and gave LMQ a window back into the game.
So. Welp.
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On September 25 2014 23:12 BrownBear wrote:
Back to the current game going on, Peke Xerath <<<<<< Froggen Xerath.
Where does Bjergsen Xerath rank?
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On September 25 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
Also their handicap was self inflicted.
Banning their coach and their jungler was inflicted by Riot. They could have just fined them or done nothing.
On September 25 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
The above post is correct in saying TSM played terribly throughout the game,
No it is not. That is the viewpoint of a fanboy who can't accept they lost, therefore "whatevs, they played badly and threw, lol" when they've been close in gold the whole game, with map vision and turret advantage for SK.
And the last fight came with TSM ahead 2.6k gold with 1.4k laying on their support.
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On September 25 2014 23:12 BrownBear wrote:
Back to the current game going on, Peke Xerath <<<<<< Froggen Xerath.
Erm based on what? Peke's been landing stuns and ultimates left and right...
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On September 25 2014 23:16 ManBaker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
Also their handicap was self inflicted. Banning their coach and their jungler was inflicted by Riot. They could have just fined them or done nothing. Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
The above post is correct in saying TSM played terribly throughout the game, No it is not. That is the viewpoint of a fanboy who can't accept they lost, therefore "whatevs, they played badly and threw, lol" when they've been close in gold the whole game, with map vision and turret advantage for SK. And the last fight came with TSM ahead 2.6k gold with 1.4k laying on their support.
If I remember correctly SK had a significant gold lead for a significant portion of that game.
In any case, LMQ/Fnatic is way closer than I thought and to answer the xerath question I think it's clear Bjerg > Froggen > Peke for western Xeraths atm.
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On September 25 2014 23:16 ManBaker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
Also their handicap was self inflicted. Banning their coach and their jungler was inflicted by Riot. They could have just fined them or done nothing. Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
The above post is correct in saying TSM played terribly throughout the game, No it is not. That is the viewpoint of a fanboy who can't accept they lost, therefore "whatevs, they played badly and threw, lol" when they've been close in gold the whole game, with map vision and turret advantage for SK. And the last fight came with TSM ahead 2.6k gold with 1.4k laying on their support.
Lol I am not a TSM fanboy. I was happy that SK won. I just gave a few points that showed TSM was playing poorly. And the punishment for being an ass is not for you to decide
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On September 25 2014 23:16 ManBaker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
Also their handicap was self inflicted. Banning their coach and their jungler was inflicted by Riot. They could have just fined them or done nothing.
On the former, maybe, but incarnati0n was a toxic fucker.
On the latter, it's pretty indefensible and lighter than what I expected from Riot when it made national news. Sven may have been lynched if he did that on the mainland.
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On September 25 2014 23:17 nxk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:12 BrownBear wrote:
Back to the current game going on, Peke Xerath <<<<<< Froggen Xerath. Erm based on what? Peke's been landing stuns and ultimates left and right...
Not getting much off of them. He landed ult on Vasilii, great. LMQ still took dragon. He landed ult on Mor a couple times now, didn't get kills or anything.
Froggen did way more to keep his team in a losing fight, Peke doesn't feel like he's doing too much to grow his team's lead.
Also Vasilii nearly just rekt him, so there's that.
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vasilli going ham 1v2.
forces two recalls lol
Mor is such a jobber.
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On September 25 2014 23:18 Nytefish wrote:
haha classic vasilli
Double summoners for... Nothing 
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On September 25 2014 23:16 ManBaker wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
Also their handicap was self inflicted. Banning their coach and their jungler was inflicted by Riot. They could have just fined them or done nothing. Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:10 Yorkie wrote:
The above post is correct in saying TSM played terribly throughout the game, No it is not. That is the viewpoint of a fanboy who can't accept they lost, therefore "whatevs, they played badly and threw, lol" when they've been close in gold the whole game, with map vision and turret advantage for SK. And the last fight came with TSM ahead 2.6k gold with 1.4k laying on their support.
I never made excuses for TSM. I will freely admit they played poorly that game and lost to the better team that game.
I however disagree that it's worrying for TSM, or the NA scene, or in any way indicative of powerlevels between the two regions. Drawing conclusions about that based on a single game is just retarded.
This is my last time replying to you if your reading comprehension remains non-existent and you're going to continue putting words in my mouth, by the way.
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On September 25 2014 23:19 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:17 nxk wrote:On September 25 2014 23:12 BrownBear wrote:
Back to the current game going on, Peke Xerath <<<<<< Froggen Xerath. Erm based on what? Peke's been landing stuns and ultimates left and right... Not getting much off of them. He landed ult on Vasilii, great. LMQ still took dragon. He landed ult on Mor a couple times now, didn't get kills or anything. Froggen did way more to keep his team in a losing fight, Peke doesn't feel like he's doing too much to grow his team's lead. Also Vasilii nearly just rekt him, so there's that.
You game judgement and criteria for ranking players is so hilarious
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Wtf NoName, they're lucky there's still 30s to dragon.
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On September 25 2014 23:15 Zane wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:12 BrownBear wrote:
Back to the current game going on, Peke Xerath <<<<<< Froggen Xerath. Where does Bjergsen Xerath rank?
Honestly not sure, would need to see Bjergsen against one of them to decide.
My gut feeling is it would be something like Froggen >>>>> Bjerg > Peke, but that could be way off.
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On September 25 2014 23:19 BrownBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:17 nxk wrote:On September 25 2014 23:12 BrownBear wrote:
Back to the current game going on, Peke Xerath <<<<<< Froggen Xerath. Erm based on what? Peke's been landing stuns and ultimates left and right... Not getting much off of them. He landed ult on Vasilii, great. LMQ still took dragon. He landed ult on Mor a couple times now, didn't get kills or anything. Froggen did way more to keep his team in a losing fight, Peke doesn't feel like he's doing too much to grow his team's lead. Also Vasilii nearly just rekt him, so there's that.
The Vasilii thing was just a bait, Soaz wsa right behind him ...
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And again 3 ultimates landed
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On September 25 2014 23:20 Yorkie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:19 BrownBear wrote:On September 25 2014 23:17 nxk wrote:On September 25 2014 23:12 BrownBear wrote:
Back to the current game going on, Peke Xerath <<<<<< Froggen Xerath. Erm based on what? Peke's been landing stuns and ultimates left and right... Not getting much off of them. He landed ult on Vasilii, great. LMQ still took dragon. He landed ult on Mor a couple times now, didn't get kills or anything. Froggen did way more to keep his team in a losing fight, Peke doesn't feel like he's doing too much to grow his team's lead. Also Vasilii nearly just rekt him, so there's that. You game judgement and criteria for ranking players is so hilarious
How would you rank them, then?
Also how's the view from that high horse?
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