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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
September 25 2014 13:43 GMT
#4621
On September 25 2014 22:40 Sleight wrote:
Can we talk about this Sjokz outfit? On the serious.


Someone gets some bondage action tonight.

User was warned for this post
Science>Mechanics
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:43:53
September 25 2014 13:43 GMT
#4622
On September 25 2014 22:42 Sufficiency wrote:
So I heard Shook had a terrible build?


By the end of the game he had less than 7k gold. He had 3k less gold than Lemonnation. Also he didn't start jungle item. He didn't have time to even make a build because he was poor as dirt the entire game.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:44:56
September 25 2014 13:43 GMT
#4623
Asian junglers have wider champ pools than western ones.
y/n?

Rengar, J4, Nunu, Noct, Eve....

edit: to be fair to the junglers, it might be a team thing. As monte/other analysts like to repeat again and again, in order for a jungler to pick rengar competitively the whole team needs to know how to play with rengar as their jungler.
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 25 2014 13:44 GMT
#4624
On September 25 2014 22:43 Sleight wrote:
If Vasili's horrific early game doesn't make it insurmountable to comeback, LMQ could beat Fnatic. Ackerman vs Soaz is easy. NoName is better than Cyanide. Peke and XWX is a wash. But Rekkles Yellowstar are so fucking strong and safe.


I would say Cyanide is a bit more consistent than Noname.

Honestly the lane matchups for this seem a bit close until you look at the bot lane, if Vasilli manages to get rolling it'll be hard to stop but that is a very large "if"
In Inca we trust
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:45:23
September 25 2014 13:45 GMT
#4625
On September 25 2014 22:42 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:38 Kavas wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

Nocturne, Eve, Jarvan...

Or if Alliance wanted PVE all game long Nasus isn't bad too.

Literally nobody has played Nocturne or Eve at worlds so far. Aside from DP playing Pantheon and Vi randomly, the four jungles I mentioned were played in all but 3 games in groups A and B. Jarvan was only played 3 games, despite never being banned, and twice it was by Dandy. pretty much every junglier here plays Lee Sin and Khazix, the western jungles default to Elise if they can't get either of the first two. The Asian jungles go for Rengar.


And LMQ plays a hell of a lot of Nunu. We haven't seen all the teams play all their games yet so you might want to hold on buddy.
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
September 25 2014 13:45 GMT
#4626
On September 25 2014 22:43 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Asian junglers have wider champ pools than western ones.
y/n?

Rengar, J4, Nunu, Noct, Eve....

Disagree. I think most good west jungers can play j4 and nunu well enough. Shook just dropped the ball hard.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 25 2014 13:45 GMT
#4627
This is bootcamp'd Fnatic, probably gonna be a close game
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
September 25 2014 13:45 GMT
#4628
On September 25 2014 22:37 kongoline wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

i disagree, there are plenty of viable junglers who would have worked in this game but shook cant play anything besides the fotm 3

I think Mumu would have been awesome. They wanted CC with their heavy DPS composition + with Kayle they can't really turn on him when he jumps in + he wears abyssal really well in double AP mirrors.
The legend of Darien lives on
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
September 25 2014 13:45 GMT
#4629
On September 25 2014 22:36 ManBaker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:32 vthree wrote:
Wow, EU more overhype than China it seems...

People were making excuses for SK saying EU only had 2 good teams


How are those excuses? SK played 100% of their group without a coach and 50% of it without a jungler


Can you read? It had nothing to do with SK losing their jungler/coach. People were trying to say EU was good because the top two teams were what made EU strong, SK just got to worlds because 3 through 8 were all bad. So we should just ignore SK's performance. But we saw the #1 EU team pretty much dominated in all aspects.
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 25 2014 13:45 GMT
#4630
On September 25 2014 22:45 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:42 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:38 Kavas wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

Nocturne, Eve, Jarvan...

Or if Alliance wanted PVE all game long Nasus isn't bad too.

Literally nobody has played Nocturne or Eve at worlds so far. Aside from DP playing Pantheon and Vi randomly, the four jungles I mentioned were played in all but 3 games in groups A and B. Jarvan was only played 3 games, despite never being banned, and twice it was by Dandy. pretty much every junglier here plays Lee Sin and Khazix, the western jungles default to Elise if they can't get either of the first two. The Asian jungles go for Rengar.


And LMQ plays a hell of a lot of Nunu. We haven't seen all the teams play yet so you might want to hold on buddy.

Ask any pro junglier, there's a reason why their "champion pools" are small. I'm just saying.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
September 25 2014 13:45 GMT
#4631
On September 25 2014 22:44 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:43 Sleight wrote:
If Vasili's horrific early game doesn't make it insurmountable to comeback, LMQ could beat Fnatic. Ackerman vs Soaz is easy. NoName is better than Cyanide. Peke and XWX is a wash. But Rekkles Yellowstar are so fucking strong and safe.


I would say Cyanide is a bit more consistent than Noname.

Honestly the lane matchups for this seem a bit close until you look at the bot lane, if Vasilli manages to get rolling it'll be hard to stop but that is a very large "if"


"Get rolling" is too ambitious. I just want him to "not feed." That's all it would take for LMQ to have a fair shot come midgame and their teamfight is probably a little better than Fnatic, even if their planning is worse.
One Love
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22373 Posts
September 25 2014 13:46 GMT
#4632
On September 25 2014 22:45 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:37 kongoline wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

i disagree, there are plenty of viable junglers who would have worked in this game but shook cant play anything besides the fotm 3

I think Mumu would have been awesome. They wanted CC with their heavy DPS composition + with Kayle they can't really turn on him when he jumps in + he wears abyssal really well in double AP mirrors.

J4 would be nice aswell. If he gets a decent ult, Xerath gets to hit his entire combo with no issues.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9299 Posts
September 25 2014 13:47 GMT
#4633
On September 25 2014 22:45 Inflicted wrote:
This is bootcamp'd Fnatic, probably gonna be a close game


bootcamping can be dangerous for Western teams, just look at gambit and clg xD
You're now breathing manually
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:49:55
September 25 2014 13:47 GMT
#4634
I want LMQ to win so the Fnatic hypertrain gets derailed (just like the EDG, TSM, SHRC, ALL ones) :D

okay I'm a SHRC fan >_>
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 25 2014 13:47 GMT
#4635
--- Nuked ---
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 25 2014 13:48 GMT
#4636
On September 25 2014 22:47 ShootAnonymous wrote:
I want LMQ to win so the Fnatic hypertrain gets derailed (just like the EDG, TSM, SHRC, ALL ones) :D

3 of the 4 teams you mentioned got out of group stages already.
In Inca we trust
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 25 2014 13:48 GMT
#4637
On September 25 2014 22:47 ShootAnonymous wrote:
I want LMQ to win so the Fnatic hypertrain gets derailed (just like the EDG, TSM, SHRC, ALL ones) :D

SHRC was hyped?
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:49:20
September 25 2014 13:48 GMT
#4638
On September 25 2014 22:48 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:47 ShootAnonymous wrote:
I want LMQ to win so the Fnatic hypertrain gets derailed (just like the EDG, TSM, SHRC, ALL ones) :D

3 of the 4 teams you mentioned got out of group stages already.

Derailed, not destroyed. They managed to get back on track, but definitely aren't going as strong as before no?


On September 25 2014 22:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:47 ShootAnonymous wrote:
I want LMQ to win so the Fnatic hypertrain gets derailed (just like the EDG, TSM, SHRC, ALL ones) :D

SHRC was hyped?

my bad. personal bias showing. GO GO SUPA HOT ROYAL CREW
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 25 2014 13:49 GMT
#4639
On September 25 2014 22:48 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:47 ShootAnonymous wrote:
I want LMQ to win so the Fnatic hypertrain gets derailed (just like the EDG, TSM, SHRC, ALL ones) :D

3 of the 4 teams you mentioned got out of group stages already.

If they don't dominate every game they play clearly their "hype train" has been derailed
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
September 25 2014 13:49 GMT
#4640
On September 25 2014 22:48 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:47 ShootAnonymous wrote:
I want LMQ to win so the Fnatic hypertrain gets derailed (just like the EDG, TSM, SHRC, ALL ones) :D

SHRC was hyped?


Holy shit were they hyped. All of China. Turns out Korea>NA>Eu=China so far...
One Love
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