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kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:38:44
September 25 2014 13:37 GMT
#4601
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

i disagree, there are plenty of viable junglers who would have worked in this game but shook cant play anything besides the fotm 3
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:39:01
September 25 2014 13:38 GMT
#4602
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

Jatt called Shook out and said he should've just defaulted to Rammus.

It couldn't be any more unimpactful than Shook's Elise, anyways. His most expensive item was his enchanted boots. DEM COMPONENTS.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 25 2014 13:38 GMT
#4603
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

Nocturne, Eve, Jarvan...

Or if Alliance wanted PVE all game long Nasus isn't bad too.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
September 25 2014 13:39 GMT
#4604
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well


J4 seems like an easier/better version of Elise nowadays
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Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:39:49
September 25 2014 13:39 GMT
#4605
On September 25 2014 22:38 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

Nocturne, Eve, Jarvan...

Or if Alliance wanted PVE all game long Nasus isn't bad too.


or Gragas with yasuo, or vi or or or -.-

but well froggen 60% damage dealt nuff said...
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
September 25 2014 13:40 GMT
#4606
Can we talk about this Sjokz outfit? On the serious.
One Love
ShootAnonymous
Profile Joined May 2014
1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:41:41
September 25 2014 13:40 GMT
#4607
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well


J4 and Nunu are pretty legit, imo.

The latter wouldn't have worked for ALL, but J4 has more engage than Elise, which Alliance's comp lacked so so very much. Synergies pretty well with Xerath & Kog too, regardless of how he does otherwise in-game J4's ult can at least keep C9 away from the carries, buy time for the long-range DPS of Alliance's comp etc. whereas Elise... Elise... She pretty much lives and dies by her one skillshot and that's it. And Shook's skillshots... *facepalm*


On September 25 2014 22:35 las91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.


You mean Elise/Lee Sin/X isn't a champion pool?!


D:
RIP DotA Kings | BurNIng : Mushi : iceiceice : LaNm : MMY!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-25 13:41:30
September 25 2014 13:41 GMT
#4608
On September 25 2014 22:37 Affenaffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:33 Alaric wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 BrownBear wrote:
Thank god C9 lost in regionals. Seems to have lit a huge fire under their ass, they're definitely way better than they were in NA playoffs.

Poor Froggen, though. Forever 1v9.

Froggen did his part with the Zuna impersonation.


he had vision on baron and flash up, shook was in base
not sure if it's a mistake to go for the 2 spell stealcombo there
they were already 3.5k behind
not sure if they can come back from a free baron there

Xerath has enough range to WQ from outside the pit if that's the thing. Instead, he was right up to C9.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
September 25 2014 13:41 GMT
#4609
I love how Meteos was spot on about Elise wasting him time top doing nothing
Bug Fixes Fixed an issue where, when facing a SlayerS terran, completing a hatchery would cause a medivac and 8 marines to randomly spawn nearby and attack it.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
September 25 2014 13:41 GMT
#4610
On September 25 2014 22:40 Sleight wrote:
Can we talk about this Sjokz outfit? On the serious.

:D better than discussion about Shook.
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
September 25 2014 13:41 GMT
#4611
On September 25 2014 22:39 Naphal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:38 Kavas wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

Nocturne, Eve, Jarvan...

Or if Alliance wanted PVE all game long Nasus isn't bad too.


or Gragas with yasuo, or vi or or or -.-

but well froggen 60% damage dealt nuff said...


where to see the damage stats? noob question *blush*
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
September 25 2014 13:41 GMT
#4612
COME ON APPLE PIE. LET'S COMPLETE THE EU SWEEP TODAY!

Interested to see LMQ in this game. OMG seems badly overrated, so hard to take too much from LMQ. This one might be the true bellwether.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 25 2014 13:41 GMT
#4613
--- Nuked ---
las91
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States5080 Posts
September 25 2014 13:42 GMT
#4614
On September 25 2014 22:41 Affenaffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:39 Naphal wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:38 Kavas wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

Nocturne, Eve, Jarvan...

Or if Alliance wanted PVE all game long Nasus isn't bad too.


or Gragas with yasuo, or vi or or or -.-

but well froggen 60% damage dealt nuff said...


where to see the damage stats? noob question *blush*


Thought you could find them somewhere on the actual league match history thing but I'm not sure tbh
In Inca we trust
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
September 25 2014 13:42 GMT
#4615
So I heard Shook had a terrible build?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
September 25 2014 13:42 GMT
#4616
On September 25 2014 22:38 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:35 Yorkie wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:33 ShootAnonymous wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 Redox wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:31 ShootAnonymous wrote:
Judging Shook, Wickd and Tabzz. In that order.

Above all, why elise. whyyyyyy. What does/did Elise provide??? ?_?

It simply is the 3rd champion he can play, after those 2 that were banned. She didnt fit the team comp at all.

....eh. are you serious D: (I don't watch EU)
what is it with junglers and their (lack of) champion pools.


Poor Froggen. You tried. You really did.

To be fair, the pool of strong jungles is pretty small atm. Lee, Elise, Rengar, and Khazix is pretty much what they have to choose from right now, and western jungles don't really play Rengar well

Nocturne, Eve, Jarvan...

Or if Alliance wanted PVE all game long Nasus isn't bad too.

Literally nobody has played Nocturne or Eve at worlds so far. Aside from DP playing Pantheon and Vi randomly, the four jungles I mentioned were played in all but 3 games in groups A and B. Jarvan was only played 3 games, despite never being banned, and twice it was by Dandy. pretty much every junglier here plays Lee Sin and Khazix, the western jungles default to Elise if they can't get either of the first two. The Asian jungles go for Rengar.
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22487 Posts
September 25 2014 13:42 GMT
#4617
On September 25 2014 22:40 Sleight wrote:
Can we talk about this Sjokz outfit? On the serious.

She knows her audience.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Sleight
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
2471 Posts
September 25 2014 13:43 GMT
#4618
If Vasili's horrific early game doesn't make it insurmountable to comeback, LMQ could beat Fnatic. Ackerman vs Soaz is easy. NoName is better than Cyanide. Peke and XWX is a wash. But Rekkles Yellowstar are so fucking strong and safe.
One Love
Affenaffe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany1386 Posts
September 25 2014 13:43 GMT
#4619
On September 25 2014 22:41 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:37 Affenaffe wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:33 Alaric wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 BrownBear wrote:
Thank god C9 lost in regionals. Seems to have lit a huge fire under their ass, they're definitely way better than they were in NA playoffs.

Poor Froggen, though. Forever 1v9.

Froggen did his part with the Zuna impersonation.


he had vision on baron and flash up, shook was in base
not sure if it's a mistake to go for the 2 spell stealcombo there
they were already 3.5k behind
not sure if they can come back from a free baron there

Xerath has enough range to WQ from outside the pit if that's the thing. Instead, he was right up to C9.


hm yeah, fair enough, froggen was mispositioned
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
September 25 2014 13:43 GMT
#4620
On September 25 2014 22:37 Affenaffe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 25 2014 22:33 Alaric wrote:
On September 25 2014 22:32 BrownBear wrote:
Thank god C9 lost in regionals. Seems to have lit a huge fire under their ass, they're definitely way better than they were in NA playoffs.

Poor Froggen, though. Forever 1v9.

Froggen did his part with the Zuna impersonation.


he had vision on baron and flash up, shook was in base
not sure if it's a mistake to go for the 2 spell stealcombo there
they were already 3.5k behind
not sure if they can come back from a free baron there


That might be correct, but if there's a team comp that can stall that out it's Xerath/Kog. Not having Xerath there after baron meant All had their base cracked immediately.
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