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Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 20 2014 09:53 GMT
#2161
On September 20 2014 18:51 AlterKot wrote:
One "Worlds format is ok" game out of the way, not it's time for guy who did nothing wrong hype!


Guy who did nothing wrong . . . .


LOL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
September 20 2014 09:54 GMT
#2162
Yay, the slaughter is over and now we get to watch SK get eliminated.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
September 20 2014 09:54 GMT
#2163
I don't really see the problem. I mean, if Trinidad and Tobago gets to show up for the World Cup, no reason for Dark Passage to not show up in the World Championships.

It's fun to see novelty regions like Brazil and see if they pull the dream too. Yes, the teams odds are will probably get crushed, but imagine the hilarity/greatness of a victory.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 09:55:57
September 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#2164
No one could judge gama bears at worlds last year lol, every team except najin sword if the only matches they played were one BO3 vs SKT K at their peak would have looked awful.
For the record though, they were never the best Taiwanese team. Just fortunate that AHQ choked and winds dragged them across the line vs TPS
Glorious SEA doto
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
September 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#2165
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/

13 european teams

So add 1 or 2 spots for korea

Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 20 2014 09:56 GMT
#2166
Well skill differences just show hugely in LoL. DP may be horribly outmatched, but they are still the best team out of Turkey, CIS region and Oceania, so millions of players.
Off-season = best season
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 09:57:16
September 20 2014 09:56 GMT
#2167
On September 20 2014 18:56 Redox wrote:
Well skill differences just show hugely in LoL. DP may be horribly outmatched, but they are still the best team out of Turkey, CIS region and Oceania, so millions of players.


They got stomped by d3 euw, they probaly practice 1 day/week and they stomp turkish scene.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 20 2014 09:57 GMT
#2168
Gnar supports inc
@miicah88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 20 2014 09:59 GMT
#2169
On September 20 2014 18:56 skykh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 18:56 Redox wrote:
Well skill differences just show hugely in LoL. DP may be horribly outmatched, but they are still the best team out of Turkey, CIS region and Oceania, so millions of players.


They got stomped by d3 euw, they probaly practice 1 day/week and they stomp turkish scene.

Well yeah I know that they are at best low tier EU challenger team.
Off-season = best season
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 10:01:38
September 20 2014 09:59 GMT
#2170
Wildcard spot is important because it's possible for a great team to come from generally not-so-good region (such as TPA). But generally speaking, I think CN and KR performance should earn them an extra spot over NA and EU, at expense of one Wildcard spot and one SEA spot (and to make things fair, I'd give the other Wildcard spot to winner of a preliminary tournament between LAN, BR, TUR, OCE, CIS, SEA #2, NA#4 and EU#4 - 8 team SE bracket).

Because yeah, I think CN/KR vs EU/NA might be one-sided, but still more interesting than Wildcard or SEA vs CN/KR.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
September 20 2014 10:01 GMT
#2171
On September 20 2014 18:59 AlterKot wrote:
Wildcard spot is important because it's possible for a great team to come from generally not-so-good region (such as TPA). But generally speaking, I think CN and KR performance should earn them an extra spot over NA and EU, at expense of one Wildcard spot and one SEA spot (and to make things fair, I'd give the other Wildcard spot to winner of a preliminary tournament between LAN, BR, TUR, OCE, CIS, SEA #2, NA#4 and EU#4 - 8 team SE bracket).


Cause The west doesnt want more korean teams joining worlds.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#2172
Hyped to see crowd reaction to svenskeren
Glorious SEA doto
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
September 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#2173
Come on why are you guys complaining? Riot has to bring at least one team from those less competetive region, not for the sake of tournament, but for $$. those regions are huge, and turkey and brazil are bound to grow even more.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#2174
On September 20 2014 19:02 Fusilero wrote:
Hyped to see crowd reaction to svenskeren

My dream is that sven gets a penta vs tpa.That would be great.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 10:06:21
September 20 2014 10:05 GMT
#2175
On September 20 2014 18:55 skykh wrote:
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/

13 european teams

So add 1 or 2 spots for korea



You're arguing a different point: which is to add more teams, but then that messes up the tourney format and requires another overhaul of the tourney. That's not the end of the world though and can always work, just depends on how well Riot would be able to execute on that point.

The other argument would be: "Replace International Wildcards with better teams from other regions," but then the counterpoint there would be, like in the most recent World Cup, "Why should we watch Honduras when we could have seen Sweden instead." Sometimes, it's there to provide a more "worlds" feeling I guess.

That's not to say the Wildcards format isn't completely flawless. The fair share of Gaminggears, Mineskis, and company don't make for the most exciting games, but it does give those regions like Brazil more exposure where otherwise they'd be left in obscurity.

AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 20 2014 10:06 GMT
#2176
On September 20 2014 19:02 koziol wrote:
Come on why are you guys complaining? Riot has to bring at least one team from those less competetive region, not for the sake of tournament, but for $$. those regions are huge, and turkey and brazil are bound to grow even more.

I'm complaining because in past three days I had to see DP get stomped 4 times and AHQ get stomped 2 times and I'll probably see 4 more games like this, out of 24 games total. I just think there are changes to the format possible that don't scrap wildcard completely, that's all.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
September 20 2014 10:06 GMT
#2177
On September 20 2014 19:02 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 19:02 Fusilero wrote:
Hyped to see crowd reaction to svenskeren

My dream is that sven gets a penta vs tpa.That would be great.


some people want to see the world burn, because aftergame interview and stuff xD
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 20 2014 10:07 GMT
#2178
On September 20 2014 19:06 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 19:02 koziol wrote:
Come on why are you guys complaining? Riot has to bring at least one team from those less competetive region, not for the sake of tournament, but for $$. those regions are huge, and turkey and brazil are bound to grow even more.

I'm complaining because in past three days I had to see DP get stomped 4 times and AHQ get stomped 2 times and I'll probably see 4 more games like this, out of 24 games total. I just think there are changes to the format possible that don't scrap wildcard completely, that's all.

You could not watch them too you know?
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
September 20 2014 10:07 GMT
#2179
Problem for SK is how bad Jesiz and Candypanda have been playing, Candypanda especially.

They can't even go the "Jesiz is weak, just give him supporty champions" route because who is he gonna support? Candypanda?

Fredy can't carry from Mundo
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 20 2014 10:07 GMT
#2180
On September 20 2014 19:05 Apex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 18:55 skykh wrote:
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/

13 european teams

So add 1 or 2 spots for korea



You're arguing a different point: which is to add more teams, but then that messes up the tourney format and requires another overhaul of the tourney. That's not the end of the world though and can always work, just depends on how well Riot would be able to execute on that point.

The other argument would be: "Replace International Wildcards with better teams from other regions," but then the counterpoint there would be, like in the most recent World Cup, "Why should we watch Honduras when we could have seen Sweden instead." Sometimes, it's there to provide a more "worlds" feeling I guess.

That's not to say the Wildcards format isn't completely flawless. The fair share of Gaminggears, Mineskis, and company don't make for the most exciting games, but it does give those regions like Brazil more exposure where otherwise they'd be left in obscurity.



Plus even high profile games can be blowouts. Look at Germany vs Brazil last WC. Total annihilation.
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