• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 11:47
CEST 17:47
KST 00:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down12ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League55Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted Evil Geniuses - shutting down Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.16
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 548 Shining Bright The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror Mutation # 546 Catch the Train
Brood War
General
Young Players Tournament Announced by SOOP BW General Discussion Bot on ladder Do we even care about balance? Mineral gathering rate (boosted) for each patch
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4 [ASL22] Grand Finals [$1250] International ShieldBattery League
Strategy
50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Armies of Exigo - YesYes? Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread
Fan Clubs
Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion!
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
How Much Genes Contribute to…
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 8737 users

[S4WC] Group Stage - Page 109

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 107 108 109 110 111 425 Next
Unfounded matchfixing accusations are not welcome. Refrain from making off-the-wall accusations without concrete evidence.
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
September 20 2014 09:53 GMT
#2161
On September 20 2014 18:51 AlterKot wrote:
One "Worlds format is ok" game out of the way, not it's time for guy who did nothing wrong hype!


Guy who did nothing wrong . . . .


LOL
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
September 20 2014 09:54 GMT
#2162
Yay, the slaughter is over and now we get to watch SK get eliminated.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
September 20 2014 09:54 GMT
#2163
I don't really see the problem. I mean, if Trinidad and Tobago gets to show up for the World Cup, no reason for Dark Passage to not show up in the World Championships.

It's fun to see novelty regions like Brazil and see if they pull the dream too. Yes, the teams odds are will probably get crushed, but imagine the hilarity/greatness of a victory.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 09:55:57
September 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#2164
No one could judge gama bears at worlds last year lol, every team except najin sword if the only matches they played were one BO3 vs SKT K at their peak would have looked awful.
For the record though, they were never the best Taiwanese team. Just fortunate that AHQ choked and winds dragged them across the line vs TPS
Glorious SEA doto
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
September 20 2014 09:55 GMT
#2165
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/

13 european teams

So add 1 or 2 spots for korea

Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 20 2014 09:56 GMT
#2166
Well skill differences just show hugely in LoL. DP may be horribly outmatched, but they are still the best team out of Turkey, CIS region and Oceania, so millions of players.
Off-season = best season
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 09:57:16
September 20 2014 09:56 GMT
#2167
On September 20 2014 18:56 Redox wrote:
Well skill differences just show hugely in LoL. DP may be horribly outmatched, but they are still the best team out of Turkey, CIS region and Oceania, so millions of players.


They got stomped by d3 euw, they probaly practice 1 day/week and they stomp turkish scene.
miicah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2470 Posts
September 20 2014 09:57 GMT
#2168
Gnar supports inc
@miicah88
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 20 2014 09:59 GMT
#2169
On September 20 2014 18:56 skykh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 18:56 Redox wrote:
Well skill differences just show hugely in LoL. DP may be horribly outmatched, but they are still the best team out of Turkey, CIS region and Oceania, so millions of players.


They got stomped by d3 euw, they probaly practice 1 day/week and they stomp turkish scene.

Well yeah I know that they are at best low tier EU challenger team.
Off-season = best season
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 10:01:38
September 20 2014 09:59 GMT
#2170
Wildcard spot is important because it's possible for a great team to come from generally not-so-good region (such as TPA). But generally speaking, I think CN and KR performance should earn them an extra spot over NA and EU, at expense of one Wildcard spot and one SEA spot (and to make things fair, I'd give the other Wildcard spot to winner of a preliminary tournament between LAN, BR, TUR, OCE, CIS, SEA #2, NA#4 and EU#4 - 8 team SE bracket).

Because yeah, I think CN/KR vs EU/NA might be one-sided, but still more interesting than Wildcard or SEA vs CN/KR.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
September 20 2014 10:01 GMT
#2171
On September 20 2014 18:59 AlterKot wrote:
Wildcard spot is important because it's possible for a great team to come from generally not-so-good region (such as TPA). But generally speaking, I think CN and KR performance should earn them an extra spot over NA and EU, at expense of one Wildcard spot and one SEA spot (and to make things fair, I'd give the other Wildcard spot to winner of a preliminary tournament between LAN, BR, TUR, OCE, CIS, SEA #2, NA#4 and EU#4 - 8 team SE bracket).


Cause The west doesnt want more korean teams joining worlds.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#2172
Hyped to see crowd reaction to svenskeren
Glorious SEA doto
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
September 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#2173
Come on why are you guys complaining? Riot has to bring at least one team from those less competetive region, not for the sake of tournament, but for $$. those regions are huge, and turkey and brazil are bound to grow even more.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 20 2014 10:02 GMT
#2174
On September 20 2014 19:02 Fusilero wrote:
Hyped to see crowd reaction to svenskeren

My dream is that sven gets a penta vs tpa.That would be great.
Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-20 10:06:21
September 20 2014 10:05 GMT
#2175
On September 20 2014 18:55 skykh wrote:
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/

13 european teams

So add 1 or 2 spots for korea



You're arguing a different point: which is to add more teams, but then that messes up the tourney format and requires another overhaul of the tourney. That's not the end of the world though and can always work, just depends on how well Riot would be able to execute on that point.

The other argument would be: "Replace International Wildcards with better teams from other regions," but then the counterpoint there would be, like in the most recent World Cup, "Why should we watch Honduras when we could have seen Sweden instead." Sometimes, it's there to provide a more "worlds" feeling I guess.

That's not to say the Wildcards format isn't completely flawless. The fair share of Gaminggears, Mineskis, and company don't make for the most exciting games, but it does give those regions like Brazil more exposure where otherwise they'd be left in obscurity.

AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
September 20 2014 10:06 GMT
#2176
On September 20 2014 19:02 koziol wrote:
Come on why are you guys complaining? Riot has to bring at least one team from those less competetive region, not for the sake of tournament, but for $$. those regions are huge, and turkey and brazil are bound to grow even more.

I'm complaining because in past three days I had to see DP get stomped 4 times and AHQ get stomped 2 times and I'll probably see 4 more games like this, out of 24 games total. I just think there are changes to the format possible that don't scrap wildcard completely, that's all.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
September 20 2014 10:06 GMT
#2177
On September 20 2014 19:02 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 19:02 Fusilero wrote:
Hyped to see crowd reaction to svenskeren

My dream is that sven gets a penta vs tpa.That would be great.


some people want to see the world burn, because aftergame interview and stuff xD
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 20 2014 10:07 GMT
#2178
On September 20 2014 19:06 AlterKot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 19:02 koziol wrote:
Come on why are you guys complaining? Riot has to bring at least one team from those less competetive region, not for the sake of tournament, but for $$. those regions are huge, and turkey and brazil are bound to grow even more.

I'm complaining because in past three days I had to see DP get stomped 4 times and AHQ get stomped 2 times and I'll probably see 4 more games like this, out of 24 games total. I just think there are changes to the format possible that don't scrap wildcard completely, that's all.

You could not watch them too you know?
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
September 20 2014 10:07 GMT
#2179
Problem for SK is how bad Jesiz and Candypanda have been playing, Candypanda especially.

They can't even go the "Jesiz is weak, just give him supporty champions" route because who is he gonna support? Candypanda?

Fredy can't carry from Mundo
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
September 20 2014 10:07 GMT
#2180
On September 20 2014 19:05 Apex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2014 18:55 skykh wrote:
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/

13 european teams

So add 1 or 2 spots for korea



You're arguing a different point: which is to add more teams, but then that messes up the tourney format and requires another overhaul of the tourney. That's not the end of the world though and can always work, just depends on how well Riot would be able to execute on that point.

The other argument would be: "Replace International Wildcards with better teams from other regions," but then the counterpoint there would be, like in the most recent World Cup, "Why should we watch Honduras when we could have seen Sweden instead." Sometimes, it's there to provide a more "worlds" feeling I guess.

That's not to say the Wildcards format isn't completely flawless. The fair share of Gaminggears, Mineskis, and company don't make for the most exciting games, but it does give those regions like Brazil more exposure where otherwise they'd be left in obscurity.



Plus even high profile games can be blowouts. Look at Germany vs Brazil last WC. Total annihilation.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Prev 1 107 108 109 110 111 425 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
OSC
23:30
5000
WardiTV779
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 250
TKL 168
Classic 73
LamboSC2 38
SHIN 32
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 35828
BeSt 999
Soulkey 839
Shuttle 802
FanTaSy 756
Soma 622
Mini 474
Light 454
EffOrt 423
actioN 390
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 331
Rush 300
Larva 261
ZerO 218
firebathero 194
Snow 173
Dewaltoss 131
Stork 125
Hyuk 112
Mind 96
ProTech92
Zeus 79
PianO 72
Hyun 67
Trap 60
Movie 57
Sharp 42
soO 40
Killer 39
Mong 32
Hm[arnc] 23
ToSsGirL 23
zelot 15
Rock 12
HiyA 11
Sacsri 10
Terrorterran 8
Dota 2
Gorgc11674
qojqva2157
XaKoH 496
syndereN480
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
byalli829
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor231
Other Games
singsing1965
hiko1074
B2W.Neo1041
Beastyqt636
Hui .203
Liquid`VortiX176
DeMusliM159
KnowMe144
mouzStarbuck95
Trikslyr35
ZerO(Twitch)20
Organizations
StarCraft 2
TaKeTV 11
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 6
[ Show 19 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 59
• maralekos24
• poizon28 18
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 40
• ChaeLyn 8
• FirePhoenix7
• iopq 1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV532
League of Legends
• Nemesis1739
• Jankos1407
Other Games
• Shiphtur693
Upcoming Events
Big Brain Bouts
13m
RotterdaM250
FEL
17h 13m
Patches Events
21h 13m
AI Arena Tournament
1d 1h
FEL
1d 18h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 18h
Replay Cast
2 days
WardiTV Weekly
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
4 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
5 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
6 days
Epic.LAN
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-10-22
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
Acropolis #5 - GSC
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

BSL Season 23
IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.