EPT[Riot] LoL All-Stars Tournament 2014 - Page 99
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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sataNik[pG]
Greece724 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:01 NeoIllusions wrote: So... what's Fnatic's issue(s)? And is Rekkles' back going to break? Soaz playing scared and bad, peke just sucking since s3 worlds and cyanide being consisntently a little above average while not making many plays. Its a pity because yellowstar is playing out of his mind and controls map so well and rekkles also plays very good. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:00 Lylat wrote: Nah Fnatic played like shit those 2 days, I'm pretty sure it's going to be 2 stomps At this point Fnatic might as well let SKT pick their full skin team (jax lee zed vayne zyra) for 'sportsmanship'. | ||
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Zess
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:01 NeoIllusions wrote: So... what's Fnatic's issue(s)? And is Rekkles' back going to break? "Fnatic is shit, the only thing Sexpeke can backdoor is Sjokz these days, worst mid lane world. Pretty sure Soaz doesn’t know how to play, Yolostar just wants to die, and Rekkless is losing his will to live. RIP" | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:05 sataNik[pG] wrote: I actually think C9 will beat OMG pretty easily. Thats because every single lane can hold and the jungler difference is enormous, let alone the fact that C9 rotate so well as the game progresses. Yes. I think C9 can legitly win against OMG in a bo3. In any case, this is like one of the reddit post goes..... "In 43 hours from this post SKT will be the allstars champion!" | ||
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:07 xes wrote: "Fnatic is shit, the only thing Sexpeke can backdoor is Sjokz these days, worst mid lane world. Pretty sure Soaz doesn’t know how to play, Yolostar just wants to die, and Rekkless is losing his will to live. RIP" Can't tell if quote from talking to Roffles, or pretend quote since Roffles isn't here to say it. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:09 red_ wrote: Can't tell if quote from talking to Roffles, or pretend quote since Roffles isn't here to say it. Direct quote from Cheep | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:00 Lylat wrote: Nah Fnatic played like shit those 2 days, I'm pretty sure it's going to be 2 stomps Wouldn't be the first time Fnatic played like crap in groups and then showed up strong in the bracket. I mean, they're not going to beat SKT, but I think they would beat OMG or C9 | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:22 MattBarry wrote: Wouldn't be the first time Fnatic played like crap in groups and then showed up strong in the bracket. I mean, they're not going to beat SKT, but I think they would beat OMG or C9 But they're not playing OMG or C9. It's winner takes it all, no reason to play 3rd place game. On May 10 2014 05:01 NeoIllusions wrote: So... what's Fnatic's issue(s)? And is Rekkles' back going to break? Well, sOAZ is like shadow of himself in this tournament. Can't say that Peke isn't playing better than usual, key point for Fnatic to hope in taking at least one game or making games longer is Cyanide and not letting Impact to freeze lane after swaps else sOAZ will be as useful as Balls against SKT T1. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:01 NeoIllusions wrote: So... what's Fnatic's issue(s)? And is Rekkles' back going to break? They used to be a team that thrived on preparation in a BoX setting and now they look like headless chickens. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say their issue is lack of effort. There's only really one player on the team that seems hungry for these games and that shows in his performance. The rest seem to be content to just be there. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:01 NeoIllusions wrote: So... what's Fnatic's issue(s)? And is Rekkles' back going to break? Remember the "EU sucks, time for NA to take the bronze medal" preaches we've been hearing ever since IEM? It's finally showing. Everyone and their mother is saying that EU is way behind other regions in terms of strategic/macro play, and I think All-stars are proof. At Worlds, Fnatic had a good performance because their sololaners were doing really well and they could setup these traps that noone else in the world utilized and snowball from them, and it were only semifinals that someone finally introduced a good counter-strategy (let them waste time setting traps and put pressure on two objectives so that they have to decide which to defend). Right now, Peke and Soaz might be in worst shapes of their lives and game is way less snowbally - everyone can take advantages early, but only good teams know how to close out the games. Fnatic are showcasing the problems whole Europe suffers from - nobody (except for SK maybe) is trying to be smart and think few steps ahead. Everyone is still thinking like they did in S2, where they either tried to win by individual plays or just try not to lose too much before the late game where the better teamfighting squad won. Korea set the standard for coordination that NA is trying to follow, Chinese teams are well coordinated too for the most part (altough there seems to be a different philosophy behind their playstyle), but EU seems to think that they can keep building their own, unique playstyle. Or maybe they are just lazy and doing what feels comfortable, either way NA shrunk the individual skill gap between themselves and Europe while staying ahead in terms of strategies and constantly fixing their management-attitude problems - and again, this seems to be something that only SK is doing (and maybe Roccat). Dunno, EU sucks and Fnatic are on their way out, one star player is not enough to keep together a team of dinosaurs for more than one split. Of course that's just my analysis and I'm a plat5 shitter, so please discuss if you think otherwise  | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:24 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: But they're not playing OMG or C9. It's winner takes it all, no reason to play 3rd place game. Well, sOAZ is like shadow of himself in this tournament. Can't say that Peke isn't playing better than usual, key point for Fnatic to hope in taking at least one game or making games longer is Cyanide and not letting Impact to freeze lane after swaps else sOAZ will be as useful as Balls against SKT T1. Yeah Soaz is not playing well.. he had the "excuse" of tank meta back then but now I don't see why he keeps sucking. I think he'll retire soon, Fnatic Zorozero !  | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:47 Fusilero wrote: Watching fnatic I kind of wish SK had won EU LCS, maybe they'll just get curb stomped in 20 due to individual weakness but I just get a feeling they'd put up a better fight. At least they would practice before event. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:47 Fusilero wrote: Watching fnatic I kind of wish SK had won EU LCS, maybe they'll just get curb stomped in 20 due to individual weakness but I just get a feeling they'd put up a better fight. I don't. To me the playoffs were the proof that Fnatic are the strongest team in region, which in turn made me think much less about all the other teams (SK, ALL and ROC). Maybe SK would be able to beat TPA, but I doubt they would look better against any other team. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On May 10 2014 05:57 AlterKot wrote: I don't. To me the playoffs were the proof that Fnatic are the strongest team in region, which in turn made me think much less about all the other teams (SK, ALL and ROC). Maybe SK would be able to beat TPA, but I doubt they would look better against any other team. SK's individual play is too weak. To be world class team you need to meet the mechanics/individual skill barrier first, then the strategy stuff next. Main reason Western teams have hard time entering world class status is their entire roster is not full of individual talent that can hold their own. C9 starting to enter this realm, but hai's (nor link's) skill aren't good enough. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
as someone on reddit pointed out, Allen seemed awful salty after the game (even going as far as to skip the handshake) for a guy who wasen't trying to win | ||
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MattBarry
United States4006 Posts
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