• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:14
CEST 13:14
KST 20:14
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Serral wins EWC 202532Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 20259Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580RSL Season 1 - Final Week9[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall15
Community News
[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder8EWC 2025 - Replay Pack4Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced38BSL Team Wars - Bonyth, Dewalt, Hawk & Sziky teams10Weekly Cups (July 14-20): Final Check-up0
StarCraft 2
General
Why Do Students Prefer London Assignment Help for Classic: "It's a thick wall to break through to become world champ" Firefly given lifetime ban by ESIC following match-fixing investigation The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Serral wins EWC 2025
Tourneys
Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) TaeJa vs Creator Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $10,000 live event Esports World Cup 2025
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather Mutation # 483 Kill Bot Wars Mutation # 482 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Flash Announces (and Retracts) Hiatus From ASL BW General Discussion [BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder Brood War web app to calculate unit interactions
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL] Non-Korean Championship - Final weekend [BSL20] Non-Korean Championship 4x BSL + 4x China
Strategy
Does 1 second matter in StarCraft? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Muta micro map competition [G] Mineral Boosting
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Total Annihilation Server - TAForever [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Stop Killing Games - European Citizens Initiative UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
The Link Between Fitness and…
TrAiDoS
momentary artworks from des…
tankgirl
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Socialism Anyone?
GreenHorizons
Eight Anniversary as a TL…
Mizenhauer
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 563 users

[Riot] LoL All-Stars Tournament 2014 - Page 182

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 180 181 182
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 13 2014 00:33 GMT
#3621
that's never going to happen. You'd be better off always competing in the same league.
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 05:40:25
May 13 2014 05:39 GMT
#3622
Well all this will be cleared up at Worlds, though I'm guessing that SKT T1 K won't be there unless they manage to get more points. I'm totally blanking on the format this year. How many teams does each region get to send?
-
MayorITC
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)798 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 06:00:26
May 13 2014 05:59 GMT
#3623
On May 13 2014 14:39 Headshot wrote:
Well all this will be cleared up at Worlds, though I'm guessing that SKT T1 K won't be there unless they manage to get more points. I'm totally blanking on the format this year. How many teams does each region get to send?


SKT T1 still has a good chance of making it to Worlds because they won OGN Winter.That's assuming they're going by Circuit points again.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
May 13 2014 12:17 GMT
#3624
On May 13 2014 14:59 MayorITC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 14:39 Headshot wrote:
Well all this will be cleared up at Worlds, though I'm guessing that SKT T1 K won't be there unless they manage to get more points. I'm totally blanking on the format this year. How many teams does each region get to send?


SKT T1 still has a good chance of making it to Worlds because they won OGN Winter.That's assuming they're going by Circuit points again.


If SKTT1K make the Semis they will be top 2 in circuit points guaranteed. If not, it depends on Blue/NJWS's placing + Ozone's placing. They are already locked into getting into the playoff for the 3rd spot, at worst.
Freeeeeeedom
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 13 2014 13:55 GMT
#3625
Korea only got good because they wanted to be good much more badly than their NA/EU counterparts.
Moderator
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 13 2014 14:45 GMT
#3626
On May 13 2014 22:55 stuchiu wrote:
Korea only got good because they wanted to be good much more badly than their NA/EU counterparts.


That's a horrific oversimplification.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
May 13 2014 14:45 GMT
#3627
On May 13 2014 22:55 stuchiu wrote:
Korea only got good because they wanted to be good much more badly than their NA/EU counterparts.


Established infrastructure and culture counts for a lot.
:3
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-13 14:50:12
May 13 2014 14:48 GMT
#3628
On May 13 2014 23:45 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 22:55 stuchiu wrote:
Korea only got good because they wanted to be good much more badly than their NA/EU counterparts.


Established infrastructure and culture counts for a lot.


And why do they have this infrastructure and culture that westerners do not have ? I think it's because they are passionate and want to be the best at what they do, which is what they above mentioned. In general,westerners don't care enough for video games (relative to having a "real" life outside of games)
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 13 2014 14:52 GMT
#3629
The western pro teams certain still care about LoL and have at least a skeleton of team structure. Its just that as long as you can stay in the LCS, being entertaining > being good in NA in terms of income and popularity.
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
May 13 2014 14:58 GMT
#3630
Maybe I'm naive, but I truly believe that at least TSM, CLG and C9 are actually made of people that want to compete and be on the same level as CN and KR, or at least TSM's and CLG's roster changes would suggest so.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21679 Posts
May 13 2014 16:40 GMT
#3631
On May 13 2014 23:58 AlterKot wrote:
Maybe I'm naive, but I truly believe that at least TSM, CLG and C9 are actually made of people that want to compete and be on the same level as CN and KR, or at least TSM's and CLG's roster changes would suggest so.

TSM and CLG roster changes are because they want to be beat C9. I can see C9 as being a team that wants to be #1 in the world, they were the first team to actually get a coaching/analyst I believe, but TSM/CLG's ambition doesn't seem to go beyond winning in NA.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
May 13 2014 17:30 GMT
#3632
On May 14 2014 01:40 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2014 23:58 AlterKot wrote:
Maybe I'm naive, but I truly believe that at least TSM, CLG and C9 are actually made of people that want to compete and be on the same level as CN and KR, or at least TSM's and CLG's roster changes would suggest so.

TSM and CLG roster changes are because they want to be beat C9. I can see C9 as being a team that wants to be #1 in the world, they were the first team to actually get a coaching/analyst I believe, but TSM/CLG's ambition doesn't seem to go beyond winning in NA.


What makes you say that? What evidence is there of that? I think it's so stupid to question the ambition of players in LCS, especially teams that are viable for worlds like C9, TSM, and CLG.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
May 21 2014 12:45 GMT
#3633
On May 14 2014 02:30 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 14 2014 01:40 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 13 2014 23:58 AlterKot wrote:
Maybe I'm naive, but I truly believe that at least TSM, CLG and C9 are actually made of people that want to compete and be on the same level as CN and KR, or at least TSM's and CLG's roster changes would suggest so.

TSM and CLG roster changes are because they want to be beat C9. I can see C9 as being a team that wants to be #1 in the world, they were the first team to actually get a coaching/analyst I believe, but TSM/CLG's ambition doesn't seem to go beyond winning in NA.


What makes you say that? What evidence is there of that? I think it's so stupid to question the ambition of players in LCS, especially teams that are viable for worlds like C9, TSM, and CLG.


CLG still want to keep nien despite his bad perfomances and no improvements in the past 2 splits. Same with tsm with theoddone/dyrus
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 21 2014 22:11 GMT
#3634
On May 13 2014 14:39 Headshot wrote:
Well all this will be cleared up at Worlds, though I'm guessing that SKT T1 K won't be there unless they manage to get more points. I'm totally blanking on the format this year. How many teams does each region get to send?


how does that make anything clear? ._. the format is a joke.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
May 22 2014 08:41 GMT
#3635
If the NA teams wanted to win, they would play on the korea servers with bad ping. They don't, because if they suck, they won't have any excuses for why the lose.
Prev 1 180 181 182
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 46m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Harstem 300
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 9596
Britney 9080
Horang2 2693
ggaemo 2169
Bisu 1103
Larva 645
Jaedong 561
firebathero 559
BeSt 383
Zeus 338
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 324
Nal_rA 237
TY 225
ZerO 161
Soulkey 130
Soma 130
Mong 116
ToSsGirL 108
PianO 105
hero 74
Hyun 72
Killer 57
sorry 40
Mini 35
Free 33
Rush 30
Snow 24
[sc1f]eonzerg 24
Sharp 23
sSak 21
Sacsri 19
Hm[arnc] 17
Movie 15
Icarus 13
Bale 10
Sea.KH 6
Dota 2
XaKoH 452
XcaliburYe235
Counter-Strike
ScreaM2822
olofmeister2286
shoxiejesuss911
Super Smash Bros
Westballz47
Other Games
singsing1827
B2W.Neo616
DeMusliM313
crisheroes301
Lowko155
SortOf132
rGuardiaN29
Dewaltoss29
ZerO(Twitch)14
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 9
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 57
• davetesta17
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV391
Upcoming Events
WardiTV European League
4h 46m
MaNa vs NightPhoenix
ByuN vs YoungYakov
ShoWTimE vs Nicoract
Harstem vs ArT
Korean StarCraft League
15h 46m
CranKy Ducklings
22h 46m
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
1d
Mihu vs QiaoGege
Zhanhun vs Dewalt
Fengzi vs TBD
WardiTV European League
1d 4h
Shameless vs MaxPax
HeRoMaRinE vs SKillous
Online Event
1d 6h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 22h
BSL20 Non-Korean Champi…
2 days
Bonyth vs TBD
WardiTV European League
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 20 Non-Korean Championship
FEL Cracow 2025
Underdog Cup #2

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
CC Div. A S7
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025

Upcoming

ASL Season 20: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 20: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 20
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
BSL Season 21
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
CAC 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.