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thresholden
Profile Joined September 2013
United States38 Posts
February 20 2014 21:01 GMT
#201
Bleh, I wanted to see the 2 v 2 lane since everyone seems to think FNC's bot lane is that much stronger.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 21:04:16
February 20 2014 21:02 GMT
#202
On February 21 2014 05:46 thresholden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 05:42 kongoline wrote:
On February 21 2014 05:40 thresholden wrote:
Regardless of whether EU teams are better than NA teams, the EU LCS is a much more boring spectator experience.

cuz games are higher level ? lol


Korean games are higher level but they aren't boring farm fests like EU games are.

I think it is simply your bias that says that EU games are farmfests compared to NA. Let us look at the facts.

Champon kills per game EU LCS: 25.5
Champon kills per game NA LCS: 25.35

From the Leaguepedia data. NA LCS data only from the first 4 weeks though.
Granted EU LCS games are 5 mins longer but that is only to be expected with fewer stomps.


Off-season = best season
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 20 2014 21:03 GMT
#203
Heavy Mixga.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
chalice
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1945 Posts
February 20 2014 21:04 GMT
#204
On February 21 2014 05:52 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 05:48 chalice wrote:
eu clearly has the superior interviews, roccat dropping knowledge and truth after every game while in NA you got krepo, snoopeh, DL, etc. with rehearsed lines they are hoping will get to the front page of reddit.

What did he say (in short)? Lack of sleep taking its toll, I'm drowsing right now. z_z

he was saying fanatic would win because of how good their botlane is, deman was like "well, i dunno SHC has a pretty strong bot lane" and jankos basically cut him off and said "nope, rekkles and yellowstar are just straight up better"
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 20 2014 21:04 GMT
#205
On February 21 2014 06:02 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 05:46 thresholden wrote:
On February 21 2014 05:42 kongoline wrote:
On February 21 2014 05:40 thresholden wrote:
Regardless of whether EU teams are better than NA teams, the EU LCS is a much more boring spectator experience.

cuz games are higher level ? lol


Korean games are higher level but they aren't boring farm fests like EU games are.

I think it is simply your bias that says that EU games are farmfests compared to NA. Let us look at the facts.

Champon kills per game EU LCS: 25.5
Champon kills per game NA LCS: 25.35

From the Leaguepedia data. NA LCS data only from the first 4 weeks though.



# of kills doesn't have anythign to do with exciting.
EU games have fairly boring gank kills well into mid-late game, cuz of extended laning.
liftlift > tsm
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 20 2014 21:05 GMT
#206
Wow, that mimer flash was really good.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 21:08:22
February 20 2014 21:07 GMT
#207
Man MrRallez so behind in farm. It's weird how many cs we saw him miss on camera since he's playing Draven.

Also drake and bot tower down, why not send their duo top to take that tower?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 20 2014 21:08 GMT
#208
On February 21 2014 06:00 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 05:52 Swords wrote:
I don't really know why anyone would expect Mill vs. CW to be exciting (two weak teams who can't close out games/are afraid of losing), or why Edward + 4 subs would be interesting at all either.

Both NA and EU have plenty of interesting games and plenty of boring games. It's like any sport, unless you're a fan of the team it isn't fun to watch shitty teams play each other or one team blow another team out of the water.

I'm supporting Millenium's squad, and the first game was stil a no-no for me in terms of entertainment.


Yeah, I mean, it isn't a catch all statement, just every sport has boring games every now and then.
thresholden
Profile Joined September 2013
United States38 Posts
February 20 2014 21:08 GMT
#209
On February 21 2014 06:02 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 05:46 thresholden wrote:
On February 21 2014 05:42 kongoline wrote:
On February 21 2014 05:40 thresholden wrote:
Regardless of whether EU teams are better than NA teams, the EU LCS is a much more boring spectator experience.

cuz games are higher level ? lol


Korean games are higher level but they aren't boring farm fests like EU games are.

I think it is simply your bias that says that EU games are farmfests compared to NA. Let us look at the facts.

Champon kills per game EU LCS: 25.5
Champon kills per game NA LCS: 25.35

From the Leaguepedia data. NA LCS data only from the first 4 weeks though.
Granted EU LCS games are 5 mins longer but that is only to be expected with fewer stomps.




Sure but EU games last an average of 5 minutes longer:

EU Average Game Time: 40:29:13
NA Average Game Time: 35:38:49

http://lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/Europe/2014_Season/Statistics/Spring_Round_Robin
http://lol.gamepedia.com/Riot_League_Championship_Series/North_America/2014_Season/Statistics/Spring_Round_Robin

This game by the way is much better.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
February 20 2014 21:10 GMT
#210
On February 21 2014 06:04 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2014 06:02 Redox wrote:
On February 21 2014 05:46 thresholden wrote:
On February 21 2014 05:42 kongoline wrote:
On February 21 2014 05:40 thresholden wrote:
Regardless of whether EU teams are better than NA teams, the EU LCS is a much more boring spectator experience.

cuz games are higher level ? lol


Korean games are higher level but they aren't boring farm fests like EU games are.

I think it is simply your bias that says that EU games are farmfests compared to NA. Let us look at the facts.

Champon kills per game EU LCS: 25.5
Champon kills per game NA LCS: 25.35

From the Leaguepedia data. NA LCS data only from the first 4 weeks though.



# of kills doesn't have anythign to do with exciting.
EU games have fairly boring gank kills well into mid-late game, cuz of extended laning.

I tried to somehow objectify things because just saying "no you are wrong EU games are more interesting" says essentially nothing. Yeah first tower dies a little earlier on average on NA, while first blood is a little earlier in EU. That is simply related to 1v2 switching and early 3 man pushes in NA. But hardly a real difference that would make one a "farm fest" and the other not.
Off-season = best season
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 20 2014 21:11 GMT
#211
Fnatic playing like shit...

Get yo shit together guys.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
February 20 2014 21:11 GMT
#212
Welp, there goes the gold lead Rekkles had over Rallez.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 20 2014 21:11 GMT
#213
Cyanide that was horrible
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 21:11:51
February 20 2014 21:11 GMT
#214
Man Moopz is playing so badly. First the mandrop gank, and now that horrendous ult... wtf.
The kill trade worth it for SHC tho, Draven used his stacks.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 21:12:20
February 20 2014 21:11 GMT
#215
That as the worst Gragas ult I've ever seen.

Blue goes to Pantheon's crit passive lol.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
February 20 2014 21:11 GMT
#216
That was awful by Moopz.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
February 20 2014 21:13 GMT
#217
On February 21 2014 06:11 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
That was awful by Moopz.


x2
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 20 2014 21:13 GMT
#218
'k SHC are just horrendously, stupidly bad. What was that fight wtf, Cyanide is playing horribly against a Morgana and giving them counter initiations and they still utterly fail.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
February 20 2014 21:13 GMT
#219
WTF is up with Moopz wasting these ults. Had an easy 4 man ult on Fnatic but uses it to only hit Peke and push him away.
日本語が分かりますか
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-20 21:16:33
February 20 2014 21:13 GMT
#220
LOL this game. Black shield on Draven, Cyanide ults anyway. Doesn't matter, wins 4v5 cause Solar Flare clump so strong.

These skillshots this game lol.
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