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orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 00:37:48
February 03 2014 00:37 GMT
#1401
On February 03 2014 09:36 Uyushin wrote:
TSM is looking stronger than ever this split. No doubt that the addition of Bjergsen greatly enhanced their play.

Still their playstyle is terrible. They just sit and farm for 20min, good rotations and they are fucked.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 00:38:43
February 03 2014 00:38 GMT
#1402
On February 03 2014 09:35 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 09:33 Redox wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:30 Sufficiency wrote:
Meteo needs to stop playing Fiddle.

Hai getting caught once while pushing mid decided the game. Was a very close game, could have gone either way easily.


Hai's death was actually OK. There weren't a lot of things on the map and he had only a 30 seconds death timer. The problem was Fiddle getting engaged on over and over again.

Yeah and during these 30 seconds Lemon got killed because they had to check baron. And while Lemon was dead Meteos got caught for the same reason. That lead to TSM baron and winning the game. Hai dying started this chain.
Off-season = best season
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
February 03 2014 00:38 GMT
#1403
On February 03 2014 09:35 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 09:33 Numy wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:32 -Zoda- wrote:
Stop blaming the fiddle pick guys, Meteos has played it with good success before.
I'm not sure Ez is really good with a Fiddle though...


Just because he has played it with good success doesn't mean he is doing that now. This game he's been super greedy and done basically nothing. Compare that to Oddone who has achieved a lot even though he failed so hard around dragon.

I didn't say he plays it well here, but people clearly word he'd have done better with any other jungler. He's just not playing it good now that's all.


Well you have to remember how bad this draft was for Fid. Annie/Vi both have really long engage range which wrecks fiddle hard. So even if he was playing bad on another jungler it might have been better since he would have had to be playing beyond amazing for fiddle to be really good this game I feel.
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
February 03 2014 00:41 GMT
#1404
Believe me if c9 picked teemo they would have won.
Science>Mechanics
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 00:42:23
February 03 2014 00:42 GMT
#1405
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Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
February 03 2014 00:45 GMT
#1406
Oddone MVP

Nice
Yorkie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States12612 Posts
February 03 2014 00:45 GMT
#1407
Yeahhhhh TheGodOne!
Hwang Kang Hooooooooooo. Follow mah boy Shellshock @Shellshock1122
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
February 03 2014 00:46 GMT
#1408
Lemondogs and ATN? Riv plz
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
February 03 2014 00:47 GMT
#1409
Why does Phreak only cast the coke league now? He ends up casting 2 games every LCS day now, while Riv is doing 4 and Kobe and Jatt alternate between doing 4 and 2. I don't understand why they don't just spread it out evenly, even if Pastrytime is supposed to be there or whatever.
canikizu
Profile Joined September 2010
4860 Posts
February 03 2014 00:48 GMT
#1410
On February 03 2014 09:38 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 09:35 -Zoda- wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:33 Numy wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:32 -Zoda- wrote:
Stop blaming the fiddle pick guys, Meteos has played it with good success before.
I'm not sure Ez is really good with a Fiddle though...


Just because he has played it with good success doesn't mean he is doing that now. This game he's been super greedy and done basically nothing. Compare that to Oddone who has achieved a lot even though he failed so hard around dragon.

I didn't say he plays it well here, but people clearly word he'd have done better with any other jungler. He's just not playing it good now that's all.


Well you have to remember how bad this draft was for Fid. Annie/Vi both have really long engage range which wrecks fiddle hard. So even if he was playing bad on another jungler it might have been better since he would have had to be playing beyond amazing for fiddle to be really good this game I feel.

We have Olaf, Elise, Khazix banned, and Vi was picked up as 2nd pick for TSM. They need something to offer AP because they're running full AD comp. Out of the remaining pool of junglers, Fiddlestick seems to be a good choice tbh. What else is left beside that? LeeSin? Wukong? The only viable choice left is either Evelyn or Fiddlestick really.

If anything, you need to blame C9 for the fail draft. They 2nd picked Leona and let TSM had Annie as 5th pick. If they have Annie, Meteos would have more option.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
February 03 2014 00:49 GMT
#1411
Poll: Recommend TSM vs C9?

Yes (15)
 
88%

No (2)
 
12%

If you have the time (0)
 
0%

17 total votes

Your vote: Recommend TSM vs C9?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have the time


"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 03 2014 00:51 GMT
#1412
Richerich fucked over Chu8's challenger team fuck him
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
February 03 2014 00:51 GMT
#1413
So wei2coolman, how about that ZionSpartan.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 03 2014 00:53 GMT
#1414
On February 03 2014 09:51 NeoIllusions wrote:
So wei2coolman, how about that ZionSpartan.

How about that Nien against Benny?
liftlift > tsm
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 03 2014 00:53 GMT
#1415
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
February 03 2014 01:02 GMT
#1416
On February 03 2014 09:53 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 09:48 canikizu wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:38 Numy wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:35 -Zoda- wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:33 Numy wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:32 -Zoda- wrote:
Stop blaming the fiddle pick guys, Meteos has played it with good success before.
I'm not sure Ez is really good with a Fiddle though...


Just because he has played it with good success doesn't mean he is doing that now. This game he's been super greedy and done basically nothing. Compare that to Oddone who has achieved a lot even though he failed so hard around dragon.

I didn't say he plays it well here, but people clearly word he'd have done better with any other jungler. He's just not playing it good now that's all.


Well you have to remember how bad this draft was for Fid. Annie/Vi both have really long engage range which wrecks fiddle hard. So even if he was playing bad on another jungler it might have been better since he would have had to be playing beyond amazing for fiddle to be really good this game I feel.

We have Olaf, Elise, Khazix banned, and Vi was picked up as 2nd pick for TSM. They need something to offer AP because they're running full AD comp. Out of the remaining pool of junglers, Fiddlestick seems to be a good choice tbh. What else is left beside that? LeeSin? Wukong? The only viable choice left is either Evelyn or Fiddlestick really.

If anything, you need to blame C9 for the fail draft. They 2nd picked Leona and let TSM had Annie as 5th pick. If they have Annie, Meteos would have more option.


I agree. c9 left too many options open and tunneled too hard on leona. they should rethink their draft next time against TSM. also ban leblanc since it seemed like only picked zed because of that matchup.

next time if I'm blue side I would ban leblanc, elise, olaf/mundo.
let tsm take either vi/renek/leona.
pick up 2 out of vi/renek/leona next picks.


They lost a game not because they lost in draft.
They just misplayed a bit, that's all.

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-03 01:21:36
February 03 2014 01:16 GMT
#1417
On February 03 2014 09:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 09:51 NeoIllusions wrote:
So wei2coolman, how about that ZionSpartan.

How about that Nien against Benny?

Never said Nien was good. l0l

Edit: you seem to be confused that by me being a CLG fan, you automatically assume I think Nien is any where competent for a Top Lane but you couldn't be more wrong. But you also thought Zion was a better pick than Balls or Dyrus. So yeah.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 03 2014 01:24 GMT
#1418
On February 03 2014 10:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 09:53 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:51 NeoIllusions wrote:
So wei2coolman, how about that ZionSpartan.

How about that Nien against Benny?

Never said Nien was good. l0l

Edit: you seem to be confused that by me being a CLG fan, you automatically assume I think Nien is any where competent for a Top Lane but you couldn't be more wrong. But you also thought Zion was a better pick than Balls or Dyrus. So yeah.

Zion's more clutch. But obviously you put him on non carry top laner he ends up looking mediocre. Put him back on yasuo/riven, fuck even nasus and he'll be performing a fuckton stronger. I blame coast's insistence on playing kat.
liftlift > tsm
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 03 2014 01:31 GMT
#1419
On February 03 2014 09:48 canikizu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2014 09:38 Numy wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:35 -Zoda- wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:33 Numy wrote:
On February 03 2014 09:32 -Zoda- wrote:
Stop blaming the fiddle pick guys, Meteos has played it with good success before.
I'm not sure Ez is really good with a Fiddle though...


Just because he has played it with good success doesn't mean he is doing that now. This game he's been super greedy and done basically nothing. Compare that to Oddone who has achieved a lot even though he failed so hard around dragon.

I didn't say he plays it well here, but people clearly word he'd have done better with any other jungler. He's just not playing it good now that's all.


Well you have to remember how bad this draft was for Fid. Annie/Vi both have really long engage range which wrecks fiddle hard. So even if he was playing bad on another jungler it might have been better since he would have had to be playing beyond amazing for fiddle to be really good this game I feel.

We have Olaf, Elise, Khazix banned, and Vi was picked up as 2nd pick for TSM. They need something to offer AP because they're running full AD comp. Out of the remaining pool of junglers, Fiddlestick seems to be a good choice tbh. What else is left beside that? LeeSin? Wukong? The only viable choice left is either Evelyn or Fiddlestick really.

If anything, you need to blame C9 for the fail draft. They 2nd picked Leona and let TSM had Annie as 5th pick. If they have Annie, Meteos would have more option.

Wasn't Gragas available for an AP jungler?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
February 03 2014 01:35 GMT
#1420
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