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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
January 26 2014 22:44 GMT
#1321
On January 27 2014 07:42 daemir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 07:41 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:40 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:40 kongoline wrote:
lol 9-21-0 vlad with negatron still getting bursted so hard, ridiculous

I still don't understand the Vlad pick into Leblanc. That's like...no. No.

Sustain and ability to dodge her combo + pushing power actually sound pretty good against LB.


You can only dodge the combo if you pool very early, before distortion lands, because after that you're silenced until the combo is over.

And even then, her CDs are shorter than pool, so it just means she can throw out another rotation before it comes back up if she doesn't distort.

Vlad also can't really get retaliation damage off on her because silence.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 26 2014 22:45 GMT
#1322
On January 27 2014 07:43 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 07:43 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:41 AsnSensation wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:25 wei2coolman wrote:


LOL. IS THAT SNEAKY ON DRAVEN? rofl.


idk why you're surprised I thought you at least know something about your NA Ad carrys? I watched his stream like 1 or 2 times for 10min max but even I know that Draven is one of Sneakys best champs.

I've seen him play it, but to pick that into Cait is pretty risky.

It's working out for him, but seeing it in pick/ban phase, definitely questionable.

He is vs cop.Wouldnt really call that risky.

true enough, but that's just not respecting opponent at this point.

Also, dunno why Cop+zekent let them get the push out at level 1.
liftlift > tsm
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 26 2014 22:47 GMT
#1323
Cop is rapping or what :o
The legend of Darien lives on
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
January 26 2014 22:49 GMT
#1324
cop is getting shat on wtf LOL -50 cs behind
<3 Kim Taeyeon
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 26 2014 22:50 GMT
#1325
On January 27 2014 07:49 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
cop is getting shat on wtf LOL -50 cs behind

Isn't Cait supposed to be the reason why Draven isn't played, seeing she's supposed to win hard against him or stg ?
The legend of Darien lives on
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 26 2014 22:51 GMT
#1326
On January 27 2014 07:50 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 07:49 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
cop is getting shat on wtf LOL -50 cs behind

Isn't Cait supposed to be the reason why Draven isn't played, seeing she's supposed to win hard against him or stg ?

No
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 26 2014 22:52 GMT
#1327
On January 27 2014 07:50 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 07:49 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
cop is getting shat on wtf LOL -50 cs behind

Isn't Cait supposed to be the reason why Draven isn't played, seeing she's supposed to win hard against him or stg ?


She's just safe pick against Draven but she definitely doesn't win hard against him.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 22:53:18
January 26 2014 22:52 GMT
#1328
On January 27 2014 07:51 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 07:50 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:49 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
cop is getting shat on wtf LOL -50 cs behind

Isn't Cait supposed to be the reason why Draven isn't played, seeing she's supposed to win hard against him or stg ?

No

Elaborate yo.
I was under the same impression that Cait dumpsters on Draven hard. zzzz

Edit: better range, better poke, Caliber Net effectively neutralizes Stand Aside.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
January 26 2014 22:52 GMT
#1329
If Sneaky gets a kill here it's going to be like 1k gold
Carrilord has arrived.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 26 2014 22:53 GMT
#1330
On January 27 2014 07:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 07:51 nafta wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:50 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:49 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
cop is getting shat on wtf LOL -50 cs behind

Isn't Cait supposed to be the reason why Draven isn't played, seeing she's supposed to win hard against him or stg ?

No

Elaborate yo.
I was under the same impression that Cait dumpsters on Draven hard. zzzz

To be more precise, that's what Doublelift said a long time ago, he said he felt like Draven wasn't that strong because he always picked Cait into him and wrecked him.
The legend of Darien lives on
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 26 2014 22:54 GMT
#1331
On January 27 2014 07:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 07:51 nafta wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:50 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:49 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
cop is getting shat on wtf LOL -50 cs behind

Isn't Cait supposed to be the reason why Draven isn't played, seeing she's supposed to win hard against him or stg ?

No

Elaborate yo.
I was under the same impression that Cait dumpsters on Draven hard. zzzz

It is a farm lane and caitlyn can win if outplays draven but with those 2 supports it is just a farm lane.Cop/zekent just lost wave control early and he missed cs under tower and later got zoned from some and didn't cs correctly others.

The only time caitlyn can win vs draven is before the vamp buy after you can almost tank every peacemaker and auto and straight up outsustain it.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 22:56:06
January 26 2014 22:55 GMT
#1332
Cait needs to early push to get an advantage to abuse her range to harass Draven and snowball.

Draven/Thresh pushed early, because enemy jangle was Wukong and lbsh, are you really going to push into a Thresh/Elise?
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
meowmasta85
Profile Joined January 2013
721 Posts
January 26 2014 22:55 GMT
#1333
lol why is crs just giving up everything to c9 ? c9 with the roams and rotations for (almost) free objectives
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
January 26 2014 22:56 GMT
#1334
meteos man build
TSM
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
January 26 2014 22:56 GMT
#1335
voyboy needs revolver to reach the annoying faggot vlad form
Shiznick
Profile Joined December 2008
United States2200 Posts
January 26 2014 22:56 GMT
#1336
On January 27 2014 07:55 meowmasta85 wrote:
lol why is crs just giving up everything to c9 ? c9 with the roams and rotations for (almost) free objectives

they gave up everything vs clg as well, crs just has poor response to rotations.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
January 26 2014 22:57 GMT
#1337
I would bet my entire life savings right now that Cop will never win a lane for the rest of his career.
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
January 26 2014 22:57 GMT
#1338
curse with 4 yellow and 1 red trinket c9 with 4 red and 1 yellow trinket
TSM
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 26 2014 22:58 GMT
#1339
On January 27 2014 07:57 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I would bet my entire life savings right now that Cop will never win a lane for the rest of his career.

I bet in crs vs eg even a pant/lee vs j4/leona would be a farm lane.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 22:59:39
January 26 2014 22:58 GMT
#1340
On January 27 2014 07:52 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 07:51 nafta wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:50 mr_tolkien wrote:
On January 27 2014 07:49 iKill[ShocK] wrote:
cop is getting shat on wtf LOL -50 cs behind

Isn't Cait supposed to be the reason why Draven isn't played, seeing she's supposed to win hard against him or stg ?

No

Elaborate yo.
I was under the same impression that Cait dumpsters on Draven hard. zzzz

Edit: better range, better poke, Caliber Net effectively neutralizes Stand Aside.


In this particular lane I feel like
Thresh Hook > Draven followup = force at least a flash and a recall
Annie stuns > Thresh shields with a lantern they try to turn it around with a hook and win the trade anyway.

Cop Zekent probably playing overly safe though and I always felt like Draven has an easier time winning this matchup than Caitlin because she has to always stay at the edge of her range advantage of Draven dumpsters her. Her autoattacks don't actually hurt early unless you get 3-4 free of them and good players will never take a straight up piltover peacemaker before dmg reduction through minion.

e:Leblanc W max first is for pussies zzz
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