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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9256 Posts
January 26 2014 15:20 GMT
#741
On January 26 2014 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 18:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

Today's match between Coast and Curse certainly doesn't help your case one bit. Quas pretty much dumpstered Zion.
That said, I value a top lane that is consistent (Dyrus/Balls) than one who is streaky like Zion. There are games where Dyrus and Balls carry, as far and between as they are. But they certainly don't become liabilities like Zion can get at times.

I could gel with that.

When I think about 'best players' I always think of that Thorin question about aliens that come to earth and are perfect at LoL, and under these restrictions (no koreans, or no teammates, or etc.), what team would you make?
I would never put 'consistent' players on that roster. Cuz the aliens are fucking perfect, I'd put some of the streakiest carry pants players on that team, and hope to god their carry energy sync together to beat that alien team.

Plot twist, wei2coolman is an alien infiltrator trying to convince us to use Zion and seal our fate
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 26 2014 15:21 GMT
#742
On January 27 2014 00:05 Yezzus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

What? Balls carried many games with his rumble alone, Zion is not as good as u hype him to be


I think it's more that CST don't do well unless Zion does well so it seems like he's better than he is because he's the sole reason the team win(Well him and Shiphtur I guess?)
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
January 26 2014 15:40 GMT
#743
On January 27 2014 00:21 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 00:05 Yezzus wrote:
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

What? Balls carried many games with his rumble alone, Zion is not as good as u hype him to be


I think it's more that CST don't do well unless Zion does well so it seems like he's better than he is because he's the sole reason the team win(Well him and Shiphtur I guess?)

I think this sums it up
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 16:18:21
January 26 2014 16:10 GMT
#744
On January 27 2014 00:20 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

Today's match between Coast and Curse certainly doesn't help your case one bit. Quas pretty much dumpstered Zion.
That said, I value a top lane that is consistent (Dyrus/Balls) than one who is streaky like Zion. There are games where Dyrus and Balls carry, as far and between as they are. But they certainly don't become liabilities like Zion can get at times.

I could gel with that.

When I think about 'best players' I always think of that Thorin question about aliens that come to earth and are perfect at LoL, and under these restrictions (no koreans, or no teammates, or etc.), what team would you make?
I would never put 'consistent' players on that roster. Cuz the aliens are fucking perfect, I'd put some of the streakiest carry pants players on that team, and hope to god their carry energy sync together to beat that alien team.

Plot twist, wei2coolman is an alien infiltrator trying to convince us to use Zion and seal our fate


are you being real? like he tp'd twice and got himself behind, but go back and watch the nintendude gank one more time (the last confrontation before that baron) and tell me honestly that you think Quas was going to be able to 1v1 that Nasus ever again, he needed ignite to even win then and Nasus could have easily had 50+ more stacks and triforce done by the time ignite was back up.

idk what to say about the rest of the thread, seeing Zion against non-NACL comp has definately made my opinion of him more realistic, but I wouldn't go so far as to call him streaky, both Curse loses they were winning(2nd game reletive to their late ofc) and threw at baron, and in the two games they won he was unstoppable. He obviously needs to play better for THIS team to win, but I don't think he's playing poorly.
Carrilord has arrived.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 26 2014 16:42 GMT
#745
Admittedly, I probably just have this super romanticized biased for the idea of a someone hard carrying the rest of hist team.
On January 26 2014 22:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

Today's match between Coast and Curse certainly doesn't help your case one bit. Quas pretty much dumpstered Zion.
That said, I value a top lane that is consistent (Dyrus/Balls) than one who is streaky like Zion. There are games where Dyrus and Balls carry, as far and between as they are. But they certainly don't become liabilities like Zion can get at times.

I could gel with that.

When I think about 'best players' I always think of that Thorin question about aliens that come to earth and are perfect at LoL, and under these restrictions (no koreans, or no teammates, or etc.), what team would you make?
I would never put 'consistent' players on that roster. Cuz the aliens are fucking perfect, I'd put some of the streakiest carry pants players on that team, and hope to god their carry energy sync together to beat that alien team.


You really want to risk playing against Alien Allstars with ZionSpartan, IWD, Pobelter, Cop and Kiwikid?

NA Alien Allstars for me would be.
ZSpartan, Bjergsen (let's be honest, pobelter as his best, is nowhere close to bjergsen at his best), Xmithie (jangle) (when this guy is on point, he's fucking on the fucking point), WT + xpecial. Maybe WT+daydream?
liftlift > tsm
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 26 2014 18:29 GMT
#746
Can't wait for todays games. C9 vs Crs and CLG vs Dignitas :D gonna be gud !
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
January 26 2014 19:33 GMT
#747
my anti alien team would be:

top: dyrus
jungle: oddone
mid: bjergsen
adc: wildturtle
support: xpecial
coach: regi
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 26 2014 19:35 GMT
#748
On January 27 2014 04:33 JonGalt wrote:
my anti alien team would be:

top: dyrus
jungle: oddone
mid: bjergsen
adc: wildturtle
support: xpecial
coach: regi


TSM TSM TSM
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 26 2014 19:36 GMT
#749
On January 27 2014 04:33 JonGalt wrote:
my anti alien team would be:

top: dyrus
jungle: oddone
mid: bjergsen
adc: wildturtle
support: xpecial
coach: regi


Guess subjugation under aliens can't really be worse than what we do to ourselves. Smart call JonGalt.
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
January 26 2014 19:42 GMT
#750
plus I'm probably pretty safe here in Lesotho.

let's be honest. if aliens have any interest in Lesotho we've either already lost, or we have a very good chance of winning.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 26 2014 19:44 GMT
#751
On January 27 2014 04:42 JonGalt wrote:
plus I'm probably pretty safe here in Lesotho.

let's be honest. if aliens have any interest in Lesotho we've either already lost, or we have a very good chance of winning.

Figured it out, lesotho is the aliens that thorin warns us about. They know they can beat TSM so they sent JonGalt to try to convince everyone to send TSM against them.
Glorious SEA doto
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 26 2014 19:54 GMT
#752
Well Lesotho is pretty close to my home so i hope so ;(
JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
January 26 2014 19:58 GMT
#753
On January 27 2014 04:54 Numy wrote:
Well Lesotho is pretty close to my home so i hope so ;(


we'll probably have to start the revolution. I'll play mid. African servers riot please.

how many tin foil hats do you own fusilero?
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
January 26 2014 20:02 GMT
#754
Lets see if EG learn to pick tank.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 26 2014 20:07 GMT
#755
On January 27 2014 01:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Admittedly, I probably just have this super romanticized biased for the idea of a someone hard carrying the rest of hist team.
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 22:10 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 26 2014 18:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

Today's match between Coast and Curse certainly doesn't help your case one bit. Quas pretty much dumpstered Zion.
That said, I value a top lane that is consistent (Dyrus/Balls) than one who is streaky like Zion. There are games where Dyrus and Balls carry, as far and between as they are. But they certainly don't become liabilities like Zion can get at times.

I could gel with that.

When I think about 'best players' I always think of that Thorin question about aliens that come to earth and are perfect at LoL, and under these restrictions (no koreans, or no teammates, or etc.), what team would you make?
I would never put 'consistent' players on that roster. Cuz the aliens are fucking perfect, I'd put some of the streakiest carry pants players on that team, and hope to god their carry energy sync together to beat that alien team.


You really want to risk playing against Alien Allstars with ZionSpartan, IWD, Pobelter, Cop and Kiwikid?

NA Alien Allstars for me would be.
ZSpartan, Bjergsen (let's be honest, pobelter as his best, is nowhere close to bjergsen at his best), Xmithie (jangle) (when this guy is on point, he's fucking on the fucking point), WT + xpecial. Maybe WT+daydream?


I'm not sure that Bjergsen will be able to play for NA lol. But if possible, it will be Balls, Meteos, Bjergsen, Doublelift and Xpecial for sure. Fans can put Dyrus instead of Balls and aphromoo instead of Xpecial, no other changes can be done if NA want something.


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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 26 2014 20:08 GMT
#756
I'm excited for those last 2 games.
Dig vs CLG, and the LMQ game.
liftlift > tsm
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 26 2014 20:08 GMT
#757
The PIE pic makes me laught every time lol.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 26 2014 20:10 GMT
#758
On January 27 2014 05:08 nafta wrote:
The PIE pic makes me laught every time lol.

I like how everyone was hating on Dig so fucking hard before LCS.
Like super hard.
Even after the qtpie interview, people were laughing at how they thought qtpie was bullshitting that he thought Dig could be a top tier team with current lineup.

never doubt the donger.
liftlift > tsm
Disengaged
Profile Joined July 2010
United States6994 Posts
January 26 2014 20:11 GMT
#759
Lets see if they will let Innox play a tanky top laner this game lol
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
January 26 2014 20:13 GMT
#760
On January 27 2014 05:10 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2014 05:08 nafta wrote:
The PIE pic makes me laught every time lol.

I like how everyone was hating on Dig so fucking hard before LCS.
Like super hard.
Even after the qtpie interview, people were laughing at how they thought qtpie was bullshitting that he thought Dig could be a top tier team with current lineup.

never doubt the donger.

The damn 0-2 to Alliance was an embarrassment of colossal proportions. It was shamefru dispray

Then Alliance went 0-4 in EU LCS week 1.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
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