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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 26 2014 03:35 GMT
#721
On January 26 2014 12:31 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 11:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 10:59 Gator wrote:
i wish Dig yazuki was a thing..

Eh, idk if that'd be that much of an upgrade tbh.

I have yet to see an "oh shit cruzer went super saiyan on this fucker" moment yet.
at least yazuki has those moments, then again the level of opponents they go against are pretty different.
btw, dyrus and balls overrated as fuck toplaners. Zionspartan #1.

you are hilar
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 26 2014 03:40 GMT
#722
On January 26 2014 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 12:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 10:59 Gator wrote:
i wish Dig yazuki was a thing..

Eh, idk if that'd be that much of an upgrade tbh.

I have yet to see an "oh shit cruzer went super saiyan on this fucker" moment yet.
at least yazuki has those moments, then again the level of opponents they go against are pretty different.
btw, dyrus and balls overrated as fuck toplaners. Zionspartan #1.

you are hilar

still believing in nien in 2014?
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 26 2014 04:11 GMT
#723
On January 26 2014 12:40 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 12:35 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 12:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 10:59 Gator wrote:
i wish Dig yazuki was a thing..

Eh, idk if that'd be that much of an upgrade tbh.

I have yet to see an "oh shit cruzer went super saiyan on this fucker" moment yet.
at least yazuki has those moments, then again the level of opponents they go against are pretty different.
btw, dyrus and balls overrated as fuck toplaners. Zionspartan #1.

you are hilar

still believing in nien in 2014?

Your shitposting is top tier if you think I ever back Nien.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 26 2014 04:37 GMT
#724
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=20478265

sry cant help it

also cruzer looks like hes nervous, flashed like 3 times for no reason

crs is good at pushing, you can tell they did a lot of work in strategy.



Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
January 26 2014 04:45 GMT
#725
As a Dig fan who was really down on them keeping Kiwi, the last 4 games have been a really pleasant surprise. The team as a whole just seems to be communicating really well, and to some extent that might be more important than the pure mechanical skill alternatives to Cruzer and Kiwi could offer. Crumbzz is making calls, his teammates are listening, and they all have each other's backs. It's fun to watch a team with chemistry like that. I'm still not entirely sold on them yet, because some of the games have been pretty shaky (today's baron steal against XDG could've turned into a complete disaster), but I'm excited to see if they can keep building on their momentum. IEM should be good for them too, as it gives Kiwi and Cruzer more games under their belt with Dig.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
January 26 2014 07:22 GMT
#726
On January 26 2014 13:45 Swords wrote:
As a Dig fan who was really down on them keeping Kiwi, the last 4 games have been a really pleasant surprise. The team as a whole just seems to be communicating really well, and to some extent that might be more important than the pure mechanical skill alternatives to Cruzer and Kiwi could offer. Crumbzz is making calls, his teammates are listening, and they all have each other's backs. It's fun to watch a team with chemistry like that. I'm still not entirely sold on them yet, because some of the games have been pretty shaky (today's baron steal against XDG could've turned into a complete disaster), but I'm excited to see if they can keep building on their momentum. IEM should be good for them too, as it gives Kiwi and Cruzer more games under their belt with Dig.

They've gone so well that I'm even motivated to make that Dig hype thread now.

No mo' worry about relegations.

...hopefully.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 26 2014 08:17 GMT
#727
On January 26 2014 12:31 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 11:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 10:59 Gator wrote:
i wish Dig yazuki was a thing..

Eh, idk if that'd be that much of an upgrade tbh.

I have yet to see an "oh shit cruzer went super saiyan on this fucker" moment yet.
at least yazuki has those moments, then again the level of opponents they go against are pretty different.
btw, dyrus and balls overrated as fuck toplaners. Zionspartan #1.

I work at an electronic medical records company and have the ability to create referrals for patients in need. I need to know where in the US you live so I can write you up a referral to a mental health facility.
God Bless
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 26 2014 08:26 GMT
#728
On January 26 2014 17:17 Roffles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 12:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 10:59 Gator wrote:
i wish Dig yazuki was a thing..

Eh, idk if that'd be that much of an upgrade tbh.

I have yet to see an "oh shit cruzer went super saiyan on this fucker" moment yet.
at least yazuki has those moments, then again the level of opponents they go against are pretty different.
btw, dyrus and balls overrated as fuck toplaners. Zionspartan #1.

I work at an electronic medical records company and have the ability to create referrals for patients in need. I need to know where in the US you live so I can write you up a referral to a mental health facility.

Only if I can refer you to cancer clinic.
liftlift > tsm
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 08:32:50
January 26 2014 08:32 GMT
#729
On January 26 2014 17:26 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 17:17 Roffles wrote:
On January 26 2014 12:31 wei2coolman wrote:
On January 26 2014 11:01 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 10:59 Gator wrote:
i wish Dig yazuki was a thing..

Eh, idk if that'd be that much of an upgrade tbh.

I have yet to see an "oh shit cruzer went super saiyan on this fucker" moment yet.
at least yazuki has those moments, then again the level of opponents they go against are pretty different.
btw, dyrus and balls overrated as fuck toplaners. Zionspartan #1.

I work at an electronic medical records company and have the ability to create referrals for patients in need. I need to know where in the US you live so I can write you up a referral to a mental health facility.

Only if I can refer you to cancer clinic.

He doesn't need it. His cancer is in remission thanks to chemo. Now he just needs detox.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 26 2014 08:39 GMT
#730
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.
liftlift > tsm
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
January 26 2014 08:52 GMT
#731
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.


I'm not too sure what you are talking about here. Balls has shown he can carry his team. He has had multiple rumble games where he HAS carried the game.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 26 2014 09:03 GMT
#732
On January 26 2014 17:52 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.


I'm not too sure what you are talking about here. Balls has shown he can carry his team. He has had multiple rumble games where he HAS carried the game.

But it doesn't fall on him to do it every game, he happens to carry games, which is very different than having to carry games.
liftlift > tsm
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 26 2014 09:04 GMT
#733
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

Today's match between Coast and Curse certainly doesn't help your case one bit. Quas pretty much dumpstered Zion.
That said, I value a top lane that is consistent (Dyrus/Balls) than one who is streaky like Zion. There are games where Dyrus and Balls carry, as far and between as they are. But they certainly don't become liabilities like Zion can get at times.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 26 2014 09:14 GMT
#734
On January 26 2014 18:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

Today's match between Coast and Curse certainly doesn't help your case one bit. Quas pretty much dumpstered Zion.
That said, I value a top lane that is consistent (Dyrus/Balls) than one who is streaky like Zion. There are games where Dyrus and Balls carry, as far and between as they are. But they certainly don't become liabilities like Zion can get at times.

I could gel with that.

When I think about 'best players' I always think of that Thorin question about aliens that come to earth and are perfect at LoL, and under these restrictions (no koreans, or no teammates, or etc.), what team would you make?
I would never put 'consistent' players on that roster. Cuz the aliens are fucking perfect, I'd put some of the streakiest carry pants players on that team, and hope to god their carry energy sync together to beat that alien team.
liftlift > tsm
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
January 26 2014 10:10 GMT
#735
On January 26 2014 08:53 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Rivington's "Backside" Counter: 6 this game at 27

NO, IT WENT TO 7 AT 27 MINUTES

He needs to stop trying to be Deman. Too English tryhard with cheeky and fucking up "off the back of that."
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 26 2014 13:10 GMT
#736
On January 26 2014 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 18:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

Today's match between Coast and Curse certainly doesn't help your case one bit. Quas pretty much dumpstered Zion.
That said, I value a top lane that is consistent (Dyrus/Balls) than one who is streaky like Zion. There are games where Dyrus and Balls carry, as far and between as they are. But they certainly don't become liabilities like Zion can get at times.

I could gel with that.

When I think about 'best players' I always think of that Thorin question about aliens that come to earth and are perfect at LoL, and under these restrictions (no koreans, or no teammates, or etc.), what team would you make?
I would never put 'consistent' players on that roster. Cuz the aliens are fucking perfect, I'd put some of the streakiest carry pants players on that team, and hope to god their carry energy sync together to beat that alien team.


You really want to risk playing against Alien Allstars with ZionSpartan, IWD, Pobelter, Cop and Kiwikid?
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Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
January 26 2014 14:22 GMT
#737
I honestly thought DIG would be the worst team but they look decent. Still not sold. Good thing EG and CST will stop them from being kicked
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 26 2014 14:30 GMT
#738
On January 26 2014 18:14 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2014 18:04 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

Today's match between Coast and Curse certainly doesn't help your case one bit. Quas pretty much dumpstered Zion.
That said, I value a top lane that is consistent (Dyrus/Balls) than one who is streaky like Zion. There are games where Dyrus and Balls carry, as far and between as they are. But they certainly don't become liabilities like Zion can get at times.

I could gel with that.

When I think about 'best players' I always think of that Thorin question about aliens that come to earth and are perfect at LoL, and under these restrictions (no koreans, or no teammates, or etc.), what team would you make?
I would never put 'consistent' players on that roster. Cuz the aliens are fucking perfect, I'd put some of the streakiest carry pants players on that team, and hope to god their carry energy sync together to beat that alien team.


I am not sure people would agree on that definition of best. Be consistent is very important as well. When you talk about the best player in sports, it isn't just players that do great 1 game out of 5.
Yezzus
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
United States2318 Posts
January 26 2014 15:05 GMT
#739
On January 26 2014 17:39 wei2coolman wrote:
Let's have a serious discussion though. Is there a top laner in NA that carries as hard as zionsparten? Like even close?
Dyrus and Balls are good, but they don't have the same pressure to carry. I guess it falls down whether or not you value how hard a player can carry.

What? Balls carried many games with his rumble alone, Zion is not as good as u hype him to be
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-26 15:15:47
January 26 2014 15:14 GMT
#740
I think if Zion were on a more consistent team he'd drive people nuts. Right now coast's strategy is basically "Zion and ship better carry us or we have no answers". If they were a deeper team I think Zion's play would be maddening because he goes really ham pretty frequently. Sometimes it works - spring playoffs 2013 - sometimes it fails - summer 2013. A deep team with threats in every lane or a team focused on team fighting like c9 can't afford a to planer who's inconsistent and sometimes feeds (even if he is really talented). I do wonder how he'd play if he was on a deeper team with less pressure though.
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