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Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 14 2014 20:39 GMT
#641
On January 15 2014 05:38 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Humanity, there are 8 months before next World Championship.
Are you seriously discussing chances of teams RIGHT NOW?

Before 5 gamechanging patches more?
Probably, we won't see neither Alliance, Fnatic or SKT T1 K in Worlds, it doesn't mean that they're bad.

This so much. There is no international competition in LoL. Riot shut that down. So pointless to talk about that stuff.

Well IEM is allowed to do that, but it's still divided between East/West.
Glorious SEA doto
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
January 14 2014 20:39 GMT
#642
Froggen is overrated Wickd is a bit overrated Shook is strangely overrated (not sure why? o.o), Nyph is really beast as far as I know but he didn't really deliver this game. I don't see Alliance having the potential to be the strongest team.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 14 2014 20:39 GMT
#643
On January 15 2014 05:38 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:37 bokchoi wrote:
The thing is teams and players of EU have said that Alliance has the potential to be the best team in EU, not that they were the best team in EU. We'll see what happens with the team going forward. Honestly, this split really means jack shit, and getting hot in the later of the year/right around world's is much more important in trying to win World's. For example, had World's been in the spring, Ozone would've probably been the world champions. Anything and everything can change in a few months. Everyone needs to chill the f*ck out.

China is still playing tournaments on the S3 patch and people are talking about Worlds lol


If anything it just shows how much people want international competition. Worlds wasn't enough to satisfy that thirst ;(
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
January 14 2014 20:41 GMT
#644
On January 15 2014 05:39 Scip wrote:
Froggen is overrated Wickd is a bit overrated Shook is strangely overrated (not sure why? o.o), Nyph is really beast as far as I know but he didn't really deliver this game. I don't see Alliance having the potential to be the strongest team.


agreed there Alliance surely has good individual players but they are not like top 1-5 in europe and they need to get used to play with each other, so its possible if they work together but I dont think they have an advantage over other new lcs teams
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 14 2014 20:42 GMT
#645
On January 15 2014 05:39 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:38 Redox wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Humanity, there are 8 months before next World Championship.
Are you seriously discussing chances of teams RIGHT NOW?

Before 5 gamechanging patches more?
Probably, we won't see neither Alliance, Fnatic or SKT T1 K in Worlds, it doesn't mean that they're bad.

This so much. There is no international competition in LoL. Riot shut that down. So pointless to talk about that stuff.

Well IEM is allowed to do that, but it's still divided between East/West.


IEM is basically based on invites so it's not best kind of competition, let's be honest.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
bierko
Profile Joined October 2013
119 Posts
January 14 2014 20:42 GMT
#646
Crs Saintvicious
‏@CrsStvicious
The @ggCMonteCristo power rankings coming to fruition... oh wait nvm they were completely wrong

LOLed hard to one of the comments
"kind of like your timing on smites"
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 14 2014 20:43 GMT
#647
On January 15 2014 05:41 Ente wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:39 Scip wrote:
Froggen is overrated Wickd is a bit overrated Shook is strangely overrated (not sure why? o.o), Nyph is really beast as far as I know but he didn't really deliver this game. I don't see Alliance having the potential to be the strongest team.


agreed there Alliance surely has good individual players but they are not like top 1-5 in europe and they need to get used to play with each other, so its possible if they work together but I dont think they have an advantage over other new lcs teams

So how would you know that although you never scrimmed them, while the players that actually scrimmed them constantly rank them 1-3 (as Youngbuck also just did)? I think I will rather believe those.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 20:45:27
January 14 2014 20:44 GMT
#648
Olaf isn't banned, right?
I'm just curious where is he.

Still Harlem Shake stream, omg.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
JonnyLaw
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3482 Posts
January 14 2014 20:45 GMT
#649
On January 15 2014 05:42 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:39 Fusilero wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:38 Redox wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Humanity, there are 8 months before next World Championship.
Are you seriously discussing chances of teams RIGHT NOW?

Before 5 gamechanging patches more?
Probably, we won't see neither Alliance, Fnatic or SKT T1 K in Worlds, it doesn't mean that they're bad.

This so much. There is no international competition in LoL. Riot shut that down. So pointless to talk about that stuff.

Well IEM is allowed to do that, but it's still divided between East/West.


IEM is basically based on invites so it's not best kind of competition, let's be honest.



Not the best, but always fun.

I agree, Froggen's been overrated since karthus/anivia fell out of flavor. We'll see as the season goes on.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9236 Posts
January 14 2014 20:45 GMT
#650
I never understood the point of power rankings, it's just meaningless subjective drivel. If you want to rank anything come up with an algorithm damn it.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 14 2014 20:46 GMT
#651
On January 15 2014 05:45 Dan HH wrote:
I never understood the point of power rankings, it's just meaningless subjective drivel. If you want to rank anything come up with an algorithm damn it.


Well power rankings in BW used to be pretty cool since there was a lot of data there to actually get something meaningful. These pre-season rankings are rather meaningless since there's almost zero games between the teams.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 14 2014 20:46 GMT
#652
On January 15 2014 05:45 Dan HH wrote:
I never understood the point of power rankings, it's just meaningless subjective drivel. If you want to rank anything come up with an algorithm damn it.

Are you suggesting aligulac for league :>
Glorious SEA doto
Ente
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1795 Posts
January 14 2014 20:47 GMT
#653
On January 15 2014 05:43 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:41 Ente wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:39 Scip wrote:
Froggen is overrated Wickd is a bit overrated Shook is strangely overrated (not sure why? o.o), Nyph is really beast as far as I know but he didn't really deliver this game. I don't see Alliance having the potential to be the strongest team.


agreed there Alliance surely has good individual players but they are not like top 1-5 in europe and they need to get used to play with each other, so its possible if they work together but I dont think they have an advantage over other new lcs teams

So how would you know that although you never scrimmed them, while the players that actually scrimmed them constantly rank them 1-3 (as Youngbuck also just did)? I think I will rather believe those.


I dont know it maybe they will be top 3. I just dont think they are stronger than most of the established teams likes fnatic/gambit and im not sure if they are stronger than cw/roccat or other "darkhorses"
lol acc: Entenzwerg EUW http://www.twitch.tv/Entenzwerg league of legends stream (challenger EuW)
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 20:47:49
January 14 2014 20:47 GMT
#654
On January 15 2014 05:45 JonnyLaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2014 05:42 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:39 Fusilero wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:38 Redox wrote:
On January 15 2014 05:36 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
Humanity, there are 8 months before next World Championship.
Are you seriously discussing chances of teams RIGHT NOW?

Before 5 gamechanging patches more?
Probably, we won't see neither Alliance, Fnatic or SKT T1 K in Worlds, it doesn't mean that they're bad.

This so much. There is no international competition in LoL. Riot shut that down. So pointless to talk about that stuff.

Well IEM is allowed to do that, but it's still divided between East/West.


IEM is basically based on invites so it's not best kind of competition, let's be honest.



Not the best, but always fun.

I agree, Froggen's been overrated since karthus/anivia fell out of flavor. We'll see as the season goes on.



Froggen is still top-3 midlane in Europe, just not top-1 for sure like it was in S2.
In Europe, where to survive you need to have world class midlaner, it's basically very decent.

And he's still stepping up hard in playoffs, so hard that sometimes you wonder why can't he play everytime like that.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 20:49:29
January 14 2014 20:47 GMT
#655
Typical shortsighted players here, losing one game doesnt mean shit, I mean omg will 1 game vs skt and suddenly they are high rated. Weeks ago they china sucks and is worser then NA.

I just fucking hate how everyone always count last game= 12 months perfomance each fucking time god is so annoying.
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-14 20:48:33
January 14 2014 20:47 GMT
#656
Cait with Nami/Nunu so last year.

Edit: Mantheon!
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 14 2014 20:48 GMT
#657
Poles, why so serious :D
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
January 14 2014 20:48 GMT
#658
THIS MATCH JUST GOT MANLY AS FUCK.
Glorious SEA doto
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 14 2014 20:48 GMT
#659
HOLY SHIT PANTHEON

YOU WON MY HEART ROCCAT LET'S GO
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 14 2014 20:48 GMT
#660
MANTHEON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ROCC new favourite team
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