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[LCS] Battle of the Atlantic, Part I - Page 92

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Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
December 15 2013 23:24 GMT
#1821


Shlaya says they already signed a contract with LD..
TSM
Amethyst21
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada7032 Posts
December 15 2013 23:24 GMT
#1822
On December 16 2013 08:22 Redox wrote:
According to his Twitter Mithy retires.

https://twitter.com/mithyxd


Standard post loss overreaction imo.
/On the C9 Hype Train/@DatFirefly
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 23:27:11
December 15 2013 23:26 GMT
#1823
On December 16 2013 08:23 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 08:15 Disengaged wrote:
On December 16 2013 08:14 BrownBear wrote:
Yeah, I think Riot might have to step in if NiP just buys LD's spot. That would be absolutely ridiculous.


Let them waste even more money.

Not like its been working out for them.


I agree its hilarious to watch an org spend that much money for no results. But the precedent is awful.

The precedent would be great. Would finally open some yes. I have been saying this might happen with the rules they have since last season.
Off-season = best season
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 23:27:30
December 15 2013 23:27 GMT
#1824
On December 16 2013 08:24 Gator wrote:
https://twitter.com/ShLaYa/status/412360533061672960

Shlaya says they already signed a contract with LD..


People haven't really been mentioning this, but LD's current roster are the guys who stand to get the most screwed over by this. Would set a horrible precedent and take a lot of power away from the players if this becomes a standard practice by the big organizations.
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 15 2013 23:27 GMT
#1825
Can anyone explain me what's going on? If NiP purchase LD's spot, Shylaya&co will play for NiP am i right?
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 15 2013 23:28 GMT
#1826
On December 16 2013 08:24 Amethyst21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 08:22 Redox wrote:
According to his Twitter Mithy retires.

https://twitter.com/mithyxd


Standard post loss overreaction imo.

He's going for the regi record
Glorious SEA doto
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 15 2013 23:28 GMT
#1827
On December 16 2013 08:27 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 08:24 Gator wrote:
https://twitter.com/ShLaYa/status/412360533061672960

Shlaya says they already signed a contract with LD..


People haven't really been mentioning this, but these are the guys who stand to get the most screwed over by this. Would set a horrible precedent and take a lot of power away from the players if this becomes a standard practice by the big organizations.

Shlaya failed his own LCS qualfication hard, at an even earlier stage. It is beyond me how he deserves the spot any more than NiP players.
Off-season = best season
Gator
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States3432 Posts
December 15 2013 23:29 GMT
#1828
On December 16 2013 08:27 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 08:24 Gator wrote:
https://twitter.com/ShLaYa/status/412360533061672960

Shlaya says they already signed a contract with LD..


People haven't really been mentioning this, but LD's current roster are the guys who stand to get the most screwed over by this. Would set a horrible precedent and take a lot of power away from the players if this becomes a standard practice by the big organizations.

i dont think a single member of LD actually deserve to be in LCS.. all of them failed in qualifications...
TSM
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 23:34:24
December 15 2013 23:33 GMT
#1829
This whole situation just looks bad for Riot. Regardless of what happens, chances are you will have a team in the EU LCS that was unable to actually qualify through relegation.
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
December 15 2013 23:35 GMT
#1830
On December 16 2013 08:28 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 08:27 BrownBear wrote:
On December 16 2013 08:24 Gator wrote:
https://twitter.com/ShLaYa/status/412360533061672960

Shlaya says they already signed a contract with LD..


People haven't really been mentioning this, but these are the guys who stand to get the most screwed over by this. Would set a horrible precedent and take a lot of power away from the players if this becomes a standard practice by the big organizations.

Shlaya failed his own LCS qualfication hard, at an even earlier stage. It is beyond me how he deserves the spot any more than NiP players.


Well, he's the one who's currently contracted by LD, whereas Nukeduck left LD for a different team. And after that showing today, hard to say Nukeduck is better than Shlaya. Neither of them played particularly well.

I guess the problem is more, if it's going to be the same 40-50 "best players EU" all shuffled around to different rosters every season, and even the ones who get knocked out in relegations just get rehired into different teams, then what's the point? It's far more exciting to see new (to LCS) faces like KMT, CW, and most of Lemondogs come in, and see how they do.

I'd much rather have a situation where LD bombs out, and loses their relegation match to NiP for the summer split, than have a situation where NiP just outright buys LD's spot for the spring split.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 15 2013 23:36 GMT
#1831
they should only be able to trade players, not freaking spots in the league.
those must be deserved by coming from the amateur series.


If some manager fails and his team disbands, a new team would go up.
Ofc, there should be penalties for dropping out midseason. For the managers, not the players, who are often under 20 and dont understand this stuff.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 23:40:39
December 15 2013 23:40 GMT
#1832
To put it a different way, it would be much better for the integrity and long-term survivability of the LCS if, instead of the current model where it's ok to purchase spots, there was an extra mini-tournament to fill the slot every time a team dropped out or was unable to field 5 players.

LD wants to drop out of the LCS? Great, invite NiP, SHC, MYM, and a 4th top challenger team to a "Last Chance" tournament where the winner gets the spot. More tournaments, more views, better storylines, more exposure, and less accusations of collusion. Everybody wins.
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-15 23:50:53
December 15 2013 23:49 GMT
#1833
Spots should simply belong to the players that qualfied, not the organisations. Organisations can approach players and offer to sponsor them, but not get the LCS spot. If we had that LD players would have simply changed organisation from LD (which suck and dont pay much) to NiP.
Roster changes could only be done if majority of players on the team agree.
Off-season = best season
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 15 2013 23:52 GMT
#1834
Currently watching the VoD for MyM vs CW first set, damn, what a game.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
December 16 2013 00:03 GMT
#1835


oh the irony rofl
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
December 16 2013 00:13 GMT
#1836
Zorozero statement.
https://www.facebook.com/ZorozeroLOL/posts/249941278502216

Would be such a shame if he retired. Best top laner EU.

I think what NiP should do is play in challenger tournaments and try to qualify for summer split. They could still go to worlds then.

Players thinking about retiring is also Riots fault, because they created this artificial rift between LCS and "amateur" games. They made all non-LCS play worthless.
Off-season = best season
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
December 16 2013 00:16 GMT
#1837
On December 16 2013 09:13 Redox wrote:
Zorozero statement.
https://www.facebook.com/ZorozeroLOL/posts/249941278502216

Would be such a shame if he retired. Best top laner EU.

I think what NiP should do is play in challenger tournaments and try to qualify for summer split. They could still go to worlds then.

Players thinking about retiring is also Riots fault, because they created this artificial rift between LCS and "amateur" games. They made all non-LCS play worthless.

Just post loss emo, they probably won't retire.
Glorious SEA doto
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
December 16 2013 00:36 GMT
#1838
Can someone resume all the debate going around NiP/LD ?
orzeu
Profile Joined September 2013
Poland5205 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 00:46:48
December 16 2013 00:46 GMT
#1839
Zoro should just open skype, because he is getting/will get offers from LCS teams for sure.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 16 2013 00:47 GMT
#1840
Listened to the games while on the car ride home, damn NiP chocked. Although I couldn't see, sounded like they just didn't adapt and played like crap. Also after listening to several hours of League without visuals, the play-by-play commentary honestly leaves a lot to be desired. I never knew who won the fight until it was well over. Really hard to turn the casting words into visuals in my mind.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
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