• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:47
CEST 07:47
KST 14:47
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off6[ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt1: Runway132v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature4Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy9uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event18
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax5Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris30Weekly Cups (Aug 11-17): MaxPax triples again!13Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple6SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Aug 18-24): herO dethrones MaxPax What mix of new and old maps do you want in the next 1v1 ladder pool? (SC2) : A Eulogy for the Six Pool Geoff 'iNcontroL' Robinson has passed away 2v2 & SC: Evo Complete: Weekend Double Feature
Tourneys
WardiTV Mondays Maestros of The Game—$20k event w/ live finals in Paris RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 488 What Goes Around Mutation # 487 Think Fast Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below
Brood War
General
No Rain in ASL20? BW General Discussion Flash On His 2010 "God" Form, Mind Games, vs JD BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ro24 Preview Pt2: Take-Off
Tourneys
[ASL20] Ro24 Group F [ASL20] Ro24 Group E [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [IPSL] CSLAN Review and CSLPRO Reimagined!
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Dawn of War IV Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine The year 2050 European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
High temperatures on bridge(s) Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment"
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale
Blogs
Evil Gacha Games and the…
ffswowsucks
Breaking the Meta: Non-Stand…
TrAiDoS
INDEPENDIENTE LA CTM
XenOsky
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2053 users

[S3 Worlds] Semifinals - Page 118

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 116 117 118 119 120 221 Next
Tweets by @TeamLiquidLoL

Check out our preview of SKT T1 vs NaJin Sword here.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2341
On September 29 2013 05:10 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50

why would 1 does 40% more? isn't smite true dmg?
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2342
On September 29 2013 05:10 XaCez wrote:
NA with all these great strategies that other regions use.


CLG are gods at coming up with strats and never using them. (purple side anyone?)
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2343
On September 29 2013 05:11 nosliw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Woony wrote:
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50

why would 1 does 40% more? isn't smite true dmg?

Level difference
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2344
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with


It's not, it's always heavily skewed in favor of the jungler with the higher level(which is part of why Meteos is a good smiter)
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2345
On September 29 2013 05:11 nosliw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Woony wrote:
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50

why would 1 does 40% more? isn't smite true dmg?


Smite damage scales with levels.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2346
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with


A lil ill timed burst can throw your smite off. Plus its Leesin vs Elise - Both with executes. So there is definitely a chance, just not 50/50. meh
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#2347
Why do they want cleanse? The only thing vayne can cleanse is leona but it doesn't help against fizz and corki burst.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 20:13:54
September 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#2348
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with


According to CT:

The stealing jungler only has to focus on stealing.

The defending jungler has to worry about not only preventing the steal, but also everything else such as reading minimap, being in good position for the potential followup teamfight, etc.

Also, he said that it even might be 60/40 in favor of the stealing Jungler assuming equal level.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#2349
Monte looks so excited lol. Guess he's just really happy to see some clever strats being used.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#2350
also butcher bonus. leesin didnt even hqve his glove
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 20:13:10
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2351
On September 29 2013 05:12 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Why do they want cleanse? The only thing vayne can cleanse is leona but it doesn't help against fizz and corki burst.

you can cleanse fizz ult
Quote?
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2352
O-C-E-L-O-T-E. Hope he brings the love.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2353
Wait how the fuck did ocelote get involved.
Glorious SEA doto
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2354
On September 29 2013 05:10 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50

The general idea is that there is still generally a risk of the enemy team stealing in that situation, given Lee Sin execute+Smite is also just as powerful a spike, so a small mistime could lose them Baron and swing a lead (versus more safe play of steadily snowballing lane).

It wasn't 50/50 in terms of chance, but still, the gist is there.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2355
On September 29 2013 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
Wait how the fuck did ocelote get involved.


#scarfmechanics
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2356
Well, this game was pretty dead after pick tho. This idea from fnatic to first pick mids can be good, if they actually pick the right mid for it. Fizz has free lane but can be hard countered, not the greatest first pick imo.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
September 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2357
Muting stream ocelote is here.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2358
On September 29 2013 05:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Woony wrote:
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50

The general idea is that there is still generally a risk of the enemy team stealing in that situation, given Lee Sin execute+Smite is also just as powerful a spike, so a small mistime could lose them Baron and swing a lead (versus more safe play of steadily snowballing lane).

It wasn't 50/50 in terms of chance, but still, the gist is there.


I know, but I think it's a stupid term. Just call it a risky smite or something.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
September 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2359
too bad there couldn't be a OMG vs RYL Bo5 match
E-Sports is competitive video gaming with a spectator fan base. Do not take the word "Sports" literally.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2360
On September 29 2013 05:12 jpak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with


According to CT:

The stealing jungler only has to focus on stealing.

The defending jungler has to worry about not only preventing the steal, but also everything else such as reading minimap, being in good position for the potential followup teamfight, etc.

Also, he said that it even might be 60/40 in favor of the stealing Jungler assuming equal level.

That's not really true, if he just smites his team is very likely coming out ahead.

League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Prev 1 116 117 118 119 120 221 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 13m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SteadfastSC 112
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2784
ggaemo 212
Tasteless 196
PianO 173
Larva 101
Icarus 13
Dota 2
LuMiX0
Counter-Strike
m0e_tv1464
Stewie2K675
semphis_36
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King17
Other Games
summit1g9287
tarik_tv7492
WinterStarcraft524
C9.Mang0332
hungrybox271
NeuroSwarm82
SortOf42
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick679
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH255
• Sammyuel 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1183
• Lourlo988
• Stunt482
Other Games
• Scarra999
Upcoming Events
Afreeca Starleague
4h 13m
hero vs Alone
Royal vs Barracks
Replay Cast
18h 13m
The PondCast
1d 4h
WardiTV Summer Champion…
1d 5h
Clem vs Classic
herO vs MaxPax
Replay Cast
1d 18h
LiuLi Cup
2 days
MaxPax vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Cure vs Rogue
Classic vs HeRoMaRinE
Cosmonarchy
2 days
OyAji vs Sziky
Sziky vs WolFix
WolFix vs OyAji
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Hawk vs Team Dewalt
BSL Team Wars
2 days
Team Hawk vs Team Bonyth
SC Evo League
3 days
TaeJa vs Cure
Rogue vs threepoint
ByuN vs Creator
MaNa vs Classic
[ Show More ]
Maestros of the Game
3 days
ShoWTimE vs Cham
GuMiho vs Ryung
Zoun vs Spirit
Rogue vs MaNa
[BSL 2025] Weekly
3 days
SC Evo League
4 days
Maestros of the Game
4 days
SHIN vs Creator
Astrea vs Lambo
Bunny vs SKillous
HeRoMaRinE vs TriGGeR
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Bonyth vs Team Sziky
BSL Team Wars
4 days
Team Dewalt vs Team Sziky
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSLAN 3
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
ASL Season 20
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
Acropolis #4 - TS1
CSL Season 18: Qualifier 2
SEL Season 2 Championship
WardiTV Summer 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
Chzzk MurlocKing SC1 vs SC2 Cup #2
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
EC S1
Sisters' Call Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.