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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2341
On September 29 2013 05:10 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50

why would 1 does 40% more? isn't smite true dmg?
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2342
On September 29 2013 05:10 XaCez wrote:
NA with all these great strategies that other regions use.


CLG are gods at coming up with strats and never using them. (purple side anyone?)
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2343
On September 29 2013 05:11 nosliw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Woony wrote:
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50

why would 1 does 40% more? isn't smite true dmg?

Level difference
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2344
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with


It's not, it's always heavily skewed in favor of the jungler with the higher level(which is part of why Meteos is a good smiter)
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2345
On September 29 2013 05:11 nosliw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Woony wrote:
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50

why would 1 does 40% more? isn't smite true dmg?


Smite damage scales with levels.
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2346
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with


A lil ill timed burst can throw your smite off. Plus its Leesin vs Elise - Both with executes. So there is definitely a chance, just not 50/50. meh
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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#2347
Why do they want cleanse? The only thing vayne can cleanse is leona but it doesn't help against fizz and corki burst.
jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 20:13:54
September 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#2348
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with


According to CT:

The stealing jungler only has to focus on stealing.

The defending jungler has to worry about not only preventing the steal, but also everything else such as reading minimap, being in good position for the potential followup teamfight, etc.

Also, he said that it even might be 60/40 in favor of the stealing Jungler assuming equal level.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#2349
Monte looks so excited lol. Guess he's just really happy to see some clever strats being used.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 28 2013 20:12 GMT
#2350
also butcher bonus. leesin didnt even hqve his glove
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 20:13:10
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2351
On September 29 2013 05:12 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Why do they want cleanse? The only thing vayne can cleanse is leona but it doesn't help against fizz and corki burst.

you can cleanse fizz ult
Quote?
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2352
O-C-E-L-O-T-E. Hope he brings the love.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2353
Wait how the fuck did ocelote get involved.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2354
On September 29 2013 05:10 Woony wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50

The general idea is that there is still generally a risk of the enemy team stealing in that situation, given Lee Sin execute+Smite is also just as powerful a spike, so a small mistime could lose them Baron and swing a lead (versus more safe play of steadily snowballing lane).

It wasn't 50/50 in terms of chance, but still, the gist is there.
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Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2355
On September 29 2013 05:13 Fusilero wrote:
Wait how the fuck did ocelote get involved.


#scarfmechanics
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
September 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#2356
Well, this game was pretty dead after pick tho. This idea from fnatic to first pick mids can be good, if they actually pick the right mid for it. Fizz has free lane but can be hard countered, not the greatest first pick imo.
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skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
September 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2357
Muting stream ocelote is here.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2358
On September 29 2013 05:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Woony wrote:
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50

The general idea is that there is still generally a risk of the enemy team stealing in that situation, given Lee Sin execute+Smite is also just as powerful a spike, so a small mistime could lose them Baron and swing a lead (versus more safe play of steadily snowballing lane).

It wasn't 50/50 in terms of chance, but still, the gist is there.


I know, but I think it's a stupid term. Just call it a risky smite or something.
udgnim
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8024 Posts
September 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2359
too bad there couldn't be a OMG vs RYL Bo5 match
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 28 2013 20:14 GMT
#2360
On September 29 2013 05:12 jpak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with


According to CT:

The stealing jungler only has to focus on stealing.

The defending jungler has to worry about not only preventing the steal, but also everything else such as reading minimap, being in good position for the potential followup teamfight, etc.

Also, he said that it even might be 60/40 in favor of the stealing Jungler assuming equal level.

That's not really true, if he just smites his team is very likely coming out ahead.

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