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MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
September 28 2013 20:07 GMT
#2321
Fnatic needs to stop wasting a Zed ban on blue side
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 28 2013 20:08 GMT
#2322
On September 29 2013 05:06 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:05 Numy wrote:
Cyanide should have camped mid not bot. Shutting down uzi did nothing while both Jax and Ori got huge.

Fnatic needed 2v2 lanes. This way they lost all their lanes way too hard. There is only so much a jungler can do in that situation.


True, just feel even if they had 2v2 Cyanide might have still gone to uzi lane. Fnatic should just embrace the Peke and Yolostar train. Puszu has shown he can do well even if left to the wolves.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 28 2013 20:08 GMT
#2323
On September 29 2013 05:04 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:00 Haiq343 wrote:
On September 29 2013 04:58 TheYango wrote:
Fnatic did exactly what I said they shouldn't. -_-

Lose all the lanes?


Kidding.

Focus too hard on Tabe/Uzi, and let Godlike and Wh1t3zz get big.

Uzi will get big either way you can't stop that. You need to stop Godlike and Wh1t3zz from getting into a good tempo because both of them are worse at playing from behind.

Well if cyanide could clone himself that would be good, but no way are they going to be able to help top return to soaz's favor and whitez was ridiculously far ahead to the point where I guess they weren't sure if they could even kill him. I think going bot was the right move as they got 2 kills there for free.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 28 2013 20:08 GMT
#2324
I wonder if it would have made any difference had Soaz not taking E for that weird lvl 1 fight but Q instead.
The zoning from Uzi/tabe was sick though. They somehow forced Cyanide's flash off camera and then towerdive and got thepassive, as well. Soaz getting killed cause he was pushed up too far just dumb.

Anyways nice game from Royal, that doublejungle for the first 2min is really smart imo.

Royal also won pick/ban phase.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 28 2013 20:08 GMT
#2325
On September 29 2013 05:08 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:04 TheYango wrote:
On September 29 2013 05:00 Haiq343 wrote:
On September 29 2013 04:58 TheYango wrote:
Fnatic did exactly what I said they shouldn't. -_-

Lose all the lanes?


Kidding.

Focus too hard on Tabe/Uzi, and let Godlike and Wh1t3zz get big.

Uzi will get big either way you can't stop that. You need to stop Godlike and Wh1t3zz from getting into a good tempo because both of them are worse at playing from behind.

Well if cyanide could clone himself that would be good, but no way are they going to be able to help top return to soaz's favor and whitez was ridiculously far ahead to the point where I guess they weren't sure if they could even kill him. I think going bot was the right move as they got 2 kills there for free.

Was he even required though, it looked like they bursted the bot lane of royal without even his help.
Glorious SEA doto
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
September 28 2013 20:08 GMT
#2326
this game was uninteresting, fnatic lost the draft. the double jungle was awesome though.
Quote?
ManBaker
Profile Joined September 2013
1943 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-28 20:09:37
September 28 2013 20:09 GMT
#2327
They should have gone Malphite TP top and gragas mid

Fizz looked like just another soloq level "omg OP champ not banned, better firstpick it"
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 28 2013 20:09 GMT
#2328
fnatic's focus as yango said was really lopsided. if you just look at the matchups (zac + lee sin vs vayne + lulu) vs. (jax + elise vs leona + corki) its just so bad lol. if they were willing to sac soaz's development to suppress godlike / wh1t3zz, perhaps slightly unevenly, they would still have a timing where corki is much stronger than vayne in a straight fight. instead they had 2v2 lanes that were bad in top and bad in bot, and ended up giving up any chance of peke getting good farm in his lane by letting orianna double fizz's cs early and get a first buy chalice (which is pretty much unimpeded freefarm that fizz cannot match in the jungle due to mana and clear speed constraints or in lane due to the way that lane plays out).

i think they were too afraid of uzi, their comp had a good power curve in which they could contest objectives and shut down royal in the 5v5. instead they let top and mid snowball way too hard to salvage.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 28 2013 20:09 GMT
#2329
On September 29 2013 05:06 Haiq343 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:04 TheYango wrote:
On September 29 2013 05:00 Haiq343 wrote:
On September 29 2013 04:58 TheYango wrote:
Fnatic did exactly what I said they shouldn't. -_-

Lose all the lanes?


Kidding.

Focus too hard on Tabe/Uzi, and let Godlike and Wh1t3zz get big.

Uzi will get big either way you can't stop that. You need to stop Godlike and Wh1t3zz from getting into a good tempo because both of them are worse at playing from behind.

I wonder if running TP and porting either mid/top instead of into the duo would let them play more their style without falling into that trap.

The 2v2 isn't actually better for Fnatic. Leona Corki vs. Lulu Vayne isn't that good unless they open them up to kill attempts.
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Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
September 28 2013 20:09 GMT
#2330
SEASON 3 SECRETS INCOMING!
Do I contradict myself? Very well, then I contradict myself. I am large, I contain multitudes.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 28 2013 20:09 GMT
#2331
HOTSHOT CONFIRMED FOR S3SECRETS.DOC GOD
iKill[ShocK]
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Vietnam3530 Posts
September 28 2013 20:09 GMT
#2332
AHAHAHAHAHA monte mentioning s4secretsgg.doc
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
September 28 2013 20:10 GMT
#2333
So wait, double jungle OP?

CONFIRMED.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
September 28 2013 20:10 GMT
#2334
NA with all these great strategies that other regions use.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
September 28 2013 20:10 GMT
#2335
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with

When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 28 2013 20:10 GMT
#2336
On September 29 2013 05:10 Lord Tolkien wrote:
So wait, double jungle OP?

CONFIRMED.

I'm gonna tell that yolo queue whenever someone tries to take jungle from me "BUT ROYAL DID IT"
Glorious SEA doto
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 28 2013 20:10 GMT
#2337
On September 29 2013 05:08 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2013 05:08 Itsmedudeman wrote:
On September 29 2013 05:04 TheYango wrote:
On September 29 2013 05:00 Haiq343 wrote:
On September 29 2013 04:58 TheYango wrote:
Fnatic did exactly what I said they shouldn't. -_-

Lose all the lanes?


Kidding.

Focus too hard on Tabe/Uzi, and let Godlike and Wh1t3zz get big.

Uzi will get big either way you can't stop that. You need to stop Godlike and Wh1t3zz from getting into a good tempo because both of them are worse at playing from behind.

Well if cyanide could clone himself that would be good, but no way are they going to be able to help top return to soaz's favor and whitez was ridiculously far ahead to the point where I guess they weren't sure if they could even kill him. I think going bot was the right move as they got 2 kills there for free.

Was he even required though, it looked like they bursted the bot lane of royal without even his help.

I'm pretty sure vayne + lulu could have turned that at that point with creep help. They had to retreat because of lee sin and just took free damage.
Woony
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany6657 Posts
September 28 2013 20:10 GMT
#2338
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with



People seem to use 50/50 for any smite war, even if it's not actually 50/50
Blurio
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany288 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2339
God dammnit, Monte looks fly as fuck. Best dressed dude #worlds.
Nitan
Profile Joined September 2008
United States3401 Posts
September 28 2013 20:11 GMT
#2340
On September 29 2013 05:10 Kupon3ss wrote:
can somebody explain to me how the baron smite is 50/50 when one jungler does like 40 percent more smite dmg and has vision to begin with


If Lee Sin lands his Q it's pretty 50/50.
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