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Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 10:00:34
September 08 2013 09:58 GMT
#241
On September 08 2013 18:53 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 18:21 Kavas wrote:
On September 08 2013 18:10 Letmelose wrote:
On September 08 2013 17:53 Kavas wrote:
On September 08 2013 17:49 TheYango wrote:

I don't see good decision making either.
For example, last game ezreal arcane shifts over wall into base to try to kill a full health twitch and has to flash out.
Vayne getting greedy this game and flashing for a kill only to not get it and get stunned in a bush by renek at level 1.
Perhaps I expected too much, but I thought China would be far ahead of the NA and EU scene. I don't think so.

You're essentially judging the entire region by San's play, when San is by any reasonable opinion the worst ADC among the top 5 teams in LPL and arguably the worst player on OMG depending on who's playing.

Top level teams in every region have weak players that get carried by their stronger teammates, this is not exclusive to CN.

If this game is anything to go by, even c9 can dumpster iG and Royal.

And this is not judging on early game plan or laning, come mid and late game their decision making looks extremely reckless and desperate..


This is just pure conjecture with no sources of cross-referencing what-so-ever. There's just way of proof, or dis-proof when it comes to these kind of discussions where we just "imagine" how a series would play out based on our judgements. For example, are you that sure that the bottom-lane of Cloud9 would be strong enough to withstand the might of Uzi? Who is to say that the snowballing of the advantages from that lane alone would ruin everything else for Cloud9? We can draw certain conclusions from watching these games, but the fact of the matter is, saying such things really holds no weight, especially when you're dragging up the subject of the relative strength of Cloud9, which is something that not even the players of Cloud9 could not know for sure.

Further more, due to the set-up of Season 3 World Championship, I would go as far as to say that Cloud9 has just as much chance as having their tournament run end without having met a single Chinese team.

For starters, I am questioning their mid and late-game decision making, which has so far shown to be lacking. I am not questioning their early game and laning proficiency and Uzi is definitely the ADC I rate as strongest from what I have seen.

And my dear friend, surely you don't expect me to reference any studies or the sort of LOL in general. One of the points of this forum is to debate and share what little knowledge we have on the issue.


Well, I know next to nothing about both the Chinese, and North American scene. However, taking a look back at some of the stuff I predicted about the Korean scene, something I am quite familiar with, I find that I'm talking out of my ass half the time, if not more so. I've seen Uzi single handidly wreck destroy some of the best bot lanes in the world, but I'm not going to play a fool and start making wild conjectures based on those few games I've watched. It's the same with Cloud9, I believe that the level of decision making is quite sound, but I get the feeling that their laning phase can be exploited by top level players. However, this is all conjecture on my part.

All teams have glaring weaknesses that can be exploited. Just because we have the insight to point them out, it doesn't make us prophets, and making outlandish predictions based upon those observations makes for very provacative discussions based more on hunches, and personal predispositions. Then looking back on it months afterwards, I often realize how stupid I was. Seriously, it's hard enough predicting results of a single region, where we have all the information available.

Hindsight is 20/20 as they say. If my little proclamations upsets you I apologize. But really I am not someone aiming for best predictions or anything of the sort so permit my little whims

That said, Chinese game looks really messy in general.

Edit: LOL Lucky could have lived if he didn't give up running.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
September 08 2013 10:01 GMT
#242
Vi: I GIVE UP ON LIFE, TURRET GONNA KILL ME
Lives by like 10 HP
Vi: FML.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 08 2013 10:02 GMT
#243
Lucky is honestly terrible. The junglers in China have really been especially unimpressive.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
September 08 2013 10:03 GMT
#244
Smart Kayle ults.
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 08 2013 10:05 GMT
#245
Speaking of which, I've wondered why Kayle hasn't been picked up again after the buffs to nashor's tooth and the rise of Zed/Fizz.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
September 08 2013 10:05 GMT
#246
Trinity Ezrael carries this.
Off-season = best season
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
September 08 2013 10:06 GMT
#247
--- Nuked ---
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
September 08 2013 10:06 GMT
#248
Wtf that Renekton. o_o
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 08 2013 10:08 GMT
#249
uzi piglet & IMp at worlds I'm ready
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
September 08 2013 10:09 GMT
#250
well gg, my first chinese match watched and its so agressive, are all those matches like this?^^
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 08 2013 10:11 GMT
#251
Just Royal and iG, really.

OMG vs WE would be so much slower that you wouldn't even know you were watching games from the same region.
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Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 08 2013 10:12 GMT
#252
XiaoXiao, not just fail cresendo; now brand new with fail Boxes as well!
koziol
Profile Joined October 2008
Poland768 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 10:16:48
September 08 2013 10:14 GMT
#253
when does the final start? it says it was yestarday..

edit: ok I see its up next
SagaZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
France3460 Posts
September 08 2013 10:17 GMT
#254
these guys are so bloodthirsty wow, that was like 40 kills in 30 minutes or so
Be nice, buy wards and don't feed double buff.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
September 08 2013 10:17 GMT
#255
On September 08 2013 19:12 Kavas wrote:
XiaoXiao, not just fail cresendo; now brand new with fail Boxes as well!


we need gifs!!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 08 2013 10:26 GMT
#256
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 08 2013 10:29 GMT
#257
Royal is a Poor Man's SK Telecom. You could argue Uzi and Piglet, but they play a similar style, but SKT just does it a lot better with their skirmishing, diving, and fighting across the map. Royal were really sloppy at times, but I think White and especially Uzi have some great skill.

Their Jungler I don't know about. I didn't watch LPL Summer, but I haven't really been impressed by him. Was he good in the regular season?
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 10:29:51
September 08 2013 10:29 GMT
#258
another issue they have is that only the support seems to do any sight control, then gets caught out, dies, and no vision.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 08 2013 10:31 GMT
#259
Cool's last five games look like Faker's.

I really want to see Faker vs. Cool.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
September 08 2013 10:31 GMT
#260
i thought the games were pretty sloppy.
idk, not used to that kind of playstyle probably
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