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On September 08 2013 18:53 Letmelose wrote:Show nested quote +On September 08 2013 18:21 Kavas wrote:On September 08 2013 18:10 Letmelose wrote:On September 08 2013 17:53 Kavas wrote:On September 08 2013 17:49 TheYango wrote:
I don't see good decision making either.
For example, last game ezreal arcane shifts over wall into base to try to kill a full health twitch and has to flash out.
Vayne getting greedy this game and flashing for a kill only to not get it and get stunned in a bush by renek at level 1.
Perhaps I expected too much, but I thought China would be far ahead of the NA and EU scene. I don't think so.
You're essentially judging the entire region by San's play, when San is by any reasonable opinion the worst ADC among the top 5 teams in LPL and arguably the worst player on OMG depending on who's playing. Top level teams in every region have weak players that get carried by their stronger teammates, this is not exclusive to CN. If this game is anything to go by, even c9 can dumpster iG and Royal. And this is not judging on early game plan or laning, come mid and late game their decision making looks extremely reckless and desperate.. This is just pure conjecture with no sources of cross-referencing what-so-ever. There's just way of proof, or dis-proof when it comes to these kind of discussions where we just "imagine" how a series would play out based on our judgements. For example, are you that sure that the bottom-lane of Cloud9 would be strong enough to withstand the might of Uzi? Who is to say that the snowballing of the advantages from that lane alone would ruin everything else for Cloud9? We can draw certain conclusions from watching these games, but the fact of the matter is, saying such things really holds no weight, especially when you're dragging up the subject of the relative strength of Cloud9, which is something that not even the players of Cloud9 could not know for sure. Further more, due to the set-up of Season 3 World Championship, I would go as far as to say that Cloud9 has just as much chance as having their tournament run end without having met a single Chinese team. For starters, I am questioning their mid and late-game decision making, which has so far shown to be lacking. I am not questioning their early game and laning proficiency and Uzi is definitely the ADC I rate as strongest from what I have seen. And my dear friend, surely you don't expect me to reference any studies or the sort of LOL in general. One of the points of this forum is to debate and share what little knowledge we have on the issue. Well, I know next to nothing about both the Chinese, and North American scene. However, taking a look back at some of the stuff I predicted about the Korean scene, something I am quite familiar with, I find that I'm talking out of my ass half the time, if not more so. I've seen Uzi single handidly wreck destroy some of the best bot lanes in the world, but I'm not going to play a fool and start making wild conjectures based on those few games I've watched. It's the same with Cloud9, I believe that the level of decision making is quite sound, but I get the feeling that their laning phase can be exploited by top level players. However, this is all conjecture on my part. All teams have glaring weaknesses that can be exploited. Just because we have the insight to point them out, it doesn't make us prophets, and making outlandish predictions based upon those observations makes for very provacative discussions based more on hunches, and personal predispositions. Then looking back on it months afterwards, I often realize how stupid I was. Seriously, it's hard enough predicting results of a single region, where we have all the information available.
Hindsight is 20/20 as they say. If my little proclamations upsets you I apologize. But really I am not someone aiming for best predictions or anything of the sort so permit my little whims 
That said, Chinese game looks really messy in general.
Edit: LOL Lucky could have lived if he didn't give up running.
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Vi: I GIVE UP ON LIFE, TURRET GONNA KILL ME
Lives by like 10 HP
Vi: FML.
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Lucky is honestly terrible. The junglers in China have really been especially unimpressive.
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Speaking of which, I've wondered why Kayle hasn't been picked up again after the buffs to nashor's tooth and the rise of Zed/Fizz.
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Trinity Ezrael carries this.
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uzi piglet & IMp at worlds I'm ready
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well gg, my first chinese match watched and its so agressive, are all those matches like this?^^
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United States47024 Posts
Just Royal and iG, really.
OMG vs WE would be so much slower that you wouldn't even know you were watching games from the same region.
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XiaoXiao, not just fail cresendo; now brand new with fail Boxes as well!
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when does the final start? it says it was yestarday..
edit: ok I see its up next
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these guys are so bloodthirsty wow, that was like 40 kills in 30 minutes or so
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On September 08 2013 19:12 Kavas wrote:
XiaoXiao, not just fail cresendo; now brand new with fail Boxes as well!
we need gifs!!
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United States23455 Posts
Royal is a Poor Man's SK Telecom. You could argue Uzi and Piglet, but they play a similar style, but SKT just does it a lot better with their skirmishing, diving, and fighting across the map. Royal were really sloppy at times, but I think White and especially Uzi have some great skill.
Their Jungler I don't know about. I didn't watch LPL Summer, but I haven't really been impressed by him. Was he good in the regular season?
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Cayman Islands24199 Posts
another issue they have is that only the support seems to do any sight control, then gets caught out, dies, and no vision.
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United States23455 Posts
Cool's last five games look like Faker's.
I really want to see Faker vs. Cool.
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i thought the games were pretty sloppy.
idk, not used to that kind of playstyle probably
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EPT
