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justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
September 08 2013 08:02 GMT
#201
was alt tabbing and OMG 2-1 RC alraedy? the plays arent even impressive to me and RC seemed cant take their advantage to the best of their plays.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 08 2013 08:08 GMT
#202
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 08 2013 08:08 GMT
#203
On September 08 2013 17:08 krndandaman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 16:41 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On September 08 2013 16:26 krndandaman wrote:
On September 08 2013 16:21 1ntrigue wrote:
Biggest problem in China is the lack of vision control, and accordingly, the poor team movement and map pressure. Chinese teams and supports need to be applying that map control much earlier and more consistently. It's one of the main reasons that Chinese games seem so scrappy compared to Korean and even some of the NA/EU LCS games.

On the other hand, you get XiaoXiao who wards too dangerously too often.


I don't see good decision making either.
For example, last game ezreal arcane shifts over wall into base to try to kill a full health twitch and has to flash out.
Vayne getting greedy this game and flashing for a kill only to not get it and get stunned in a bush by renek at level 1.
Perhaps I expected too much, but I thought China would be far ahead of the NA and EU scene. I don't think so.


On September 08 2013 16:29 [SuNdae] wrote:
On September 08 2013 16:26 krndandaman wrote:
On September 08 2013 16:21 1ntrigue wrote:
Biggest problem in China is the lack of vision control, and accordingly, the poor team movement and map pressure. Chinese teams and supports need to be applying that map control much earlier and more consistently. It's one of the main reasons that Chinese games seem so scrappy compared to Korean and even some of the NA/EU LCS games.

On the other hand, you get XiaoXiao who wards too dangerously too often.


I don't see good decision making either.
For example, last game ezreal arcane shifts over wall into base to try to kill a full health twitch and has to flash out.
Vayne getting greedy this game and flashing for a kill only to not get it and get stunned in a bush by renek at level 1.
Perhaps I expected too much, but I thought China would be far ahead of the NA and EU scene. I don't think so.


I had bigger expectations too. A team like C9 is gonna stomp these guys.



you guys are delusional


Did you watch the games?
Maybe I'm overreacting/underestimating from the small sample pool (only today's games) but I was seriously disappointed.


He took it back almost immediately
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 08 2013 08:09 GMT
#204
Poll: Who will win the LB Finals?

Royal Club Huang Zu (2)
 
67%

Invictus Gaming (1)
 
33%

3 total votes

Your vote: Who will win the LB Finals?

(Vote): Invictus Gaming
(Vote): Royal Club Huang Zu


RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
September 08 2013 08:10 GMT
#205
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
September 08 2013 08:20 GMT
#206
Finally, the fabled top lane shyvana appears!
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
September 08 2013 08:22 GMT
#207
About to jump for joy to see the fabled Chinese jungle Shyvana picked.... it's top lane Shyvana.

God damnit.
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glzElectromaster
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 08 2013 08:35 GMT
#208
All in all, that bot lane 5 man gank was totally not worth.
RIP Kt. Violet | In solitude, where we are least alone
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 08 2013 08:47 GMT
#209
What was that 4 v 5 engage?

Whoever made that call needs to be reexamined.
Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
September 08 2013 08:47 GMT
#210
Why the fuck would you engage 4v5?
Porouscloud - NA LoL
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 08 2013 08:49 GMT
#211

I don't see good decision making either.
For example, last game ezreal arcane shifts over wall into base to try to kill a full health twitch and has to flash out.
Vayne getting greedy this game and flashing for a kill only to not get it and get stunned in a bush by renek at level 1.
Perhaps I expected too much, but I thought China would be far ahead of the NA and EU scene. I don't think so.

You're essentially judging the entire region by San's play, when San is by any reasonable opinion the worst ADC among the top 5 teams in LPL and arguably the worst player on OMG depending on who's playing.

Top level teams in every region have weak players that get carried by their stronger teammates, this is not exclusive to CN.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 08 2013 08:51 GMT
#212
do chinese teams have coaches? they don't seem as effective as Korean coaches
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 08 2013 08:53 GMT
#213
On September 08 2013 17:49 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +

I don't see good decision making either.
For example, last game ezreal arcane shifts over wall into base to try to kill a full health twitch and has to flash out.
Vayne getting greedy this game and flashing for a kill only to not get it and get stunned in a bush by renek at level 1.
Perhaps I expected too much, but I thought China would be far ahead of the NA and EU scene. I don't think so.

You're essentially judging the entire region by San's play, when San is by any reasonable opinion the worst ADC among the top 5 teams in LPL and arguably the worst player on OMG depending on who's playing.

Top level teams in every region have weak players that get carried by their stronger teammates, this is not exclusive to CN.

If this game is anything to go by, even c9 can dumpster iG and Royal.

And this is not judging on early game plan or laning, come mid and late game their decision making looks extremely reckless and desperate..
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
September 08 2013 08:59 GMT
#214
whats the name of the female emcee?
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 09:05:11
September 08 2013 09:03 GMT
#215
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 08 2013 09:06 GMT
#216
these guys are young players but that does not excuse the mistakes. they are not that new of a team. some of these strategic mistakes should have been pointed out and drilled out of them already by this point, after what, two seasons of LPL play?

or they were extremely nervous on this stage, could be.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
September 08 2013 09:08 GMT
#217
I don't think any team gets carried harder by 1 player than Royal.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
September 08 2013 09:10 GMT
#218
On September 08 2013 17:53 Kavas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 17:49 TheYango wrote:

I don't see good decision making either.
For example, last game ezreal arcane shifts over wall into base to try to kill a full health twitch and has to flash out.
Vayne getting greedy this game and flashing for a kill only to not get it and get stunned in a bush by renek at level 1.
Perhaps I expected too much, but I thought China would be far ahead of the NA and EU scene. I don't think so.

You're essentially judging the entire region by San's play, when San is by any reasonable opinion the worst ADC among the top 5 teams in LPL and arguably the worst player on OMG depending on who's playing.

Top level teams in every region have weak players that get carried by their stronger teammates, this is not exclusive to CN.

If this game is anything to go by, even c9 can dumpster iG and Royal.

And this is not judging on early game plan or laning, come mid and late game their decision making looks extremely reckless and desperate..


This is just pure conjecture with no sources of cross-referencing what-so-ever. There's just way of proof, or dis-proof when it comes to these kind of discussions where we just "imagine" how a series would play out based on our judgements. For example, are you that sure that the bottom-lane of Cloud9 would be strong enough to withstand the might of Uzi? Who is to say that the snowballing of the advantages from that lane alone would ruin everything else for Cloud9? We can draw certain conclusions from watching these games, but the fact of the matter is, saying such things really holds no weight, especially when you're dragging up the subject of the relative strength of Cloud9, which is something that not even the players of Cloud9 could not know for sure.

Further more, due to the set-up of Season 3 World Championship, I would go as far as to say that Cloud9 has just as much chance as having their tournament run end without having met a single Chinese team.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 08 2013 09:12 GMT
#219
On September 08 2013 18:03 krndandaman wrote:
I also don't agree with the annie pick at all. It's very risky. I can see why they would want it alongside jarvan because of the instantaneous AOE stun, but that's the only thing she provides pretty much. I'd rather have Nami/Zyra that can do a similar job while providing so much more utility.

Support Annie has been Royal's signature strategy through the latter half of LPL Summer and was basically undefeated in round robin play. The comp has its flaws but as drafted it's actually a very strong teamcomp. Though the huge WTF was Royal letting Orianna through bans because Orianna makes it really fucking hard to make it work (they banned it most games during the LPL season).
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kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
September 08 2013 09:13 GMT
#220
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