• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 20:09
CET 02:09
KST 10:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada3SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4
StarCraft 2
General
Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close"
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle BW General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions Where's CardinalAllin/Jukado the mapmaker?
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1324 users

[CN] S3 Regional Finals - Page 14

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 23 Next All
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 08 2013 10:31 GMT
#261
On September 08 2013 19:29 Fionn wrote:
Royal is a Poor Man's SK Telecom. You could argue Uzi and Piglet, but they play a similar style, but SKT just does it a lot better with their skirmishing, diving, and fighting across the map. Royal were really sloppy at times, but I think White and especially Uzi have some great skill.

Their Jungler I don't know about. I didn't watch LPL Summer, but I haven't really been impressed by him. Was he good in the regular season?


you cannot compare wh1t3zzzzz to faker
sorry, but it just doesn't work like that

royal is much more bottom heavy, i'd compare them more to CLG in korea (chaulift times)
Hey! Listen!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 08 2013 10:32 GMT
#262
On September 08 2013 19:29 Fionn wrote:
Their Jungler I don't know about. I didn't watch LPL Summer, but I haven't really been impressed by him. Was he good in the regular season?

No, Lucky's been the weakest player on Royal for a long time, but the lack of strong junglers in CN has been a problem since well before S2 finals.
Moderator
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 08 2013 10:33 GMT
#263
On September 08 2013 19:29 Fionn wrote:
Royal is a Poor Man's SK Telecom. You could argue Uzi and Piglet, but they play a similar style, but SKT just does it a lot better with their skirmishing, diving, and fighting across the map. Royal were really sloppy at times, but I think White and especially Uzi have some great skill.

Their Jungler I don't know about. I didn't watch LPL Summer, but I haven't really been impressed by him. Was he good in the regular season?

Doubt it. Historically Royal is exactly like SKT T1 in reputation, carried by their mid and ADC, only they are a team built more around Uzi as opposed to T1 which was built around Faker.

Fionn go petition for CJ to sign Uzi for Blaze :D
nikuniku
Profile Joined August 2013
212 Posts
September 08 2013 10:34 GMT
#264
On September 08 2013 19:29 Fionn wrote:
Royal is a Poor Man's SK Telecom. You could argue Uzi and Piglet, but they play a similar style, but SKT just does it a lot better with their skirmishing, diving, and fighting across the map. Royal were really sloppy at times, but I think White and especially Uzi have some great skill.

Their Jungler I don't know about. I didn't watch LPL Summer, but I haven't really been impressed by him. Was he good in the regular season?


Lucky is not a very consistent player. But Royal and OMG are the only teams playing with a brain. Good day for Chinese LoL scene, the two best performing team at the moment advanced.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 08 2013 10:34 GMT
#265
On September 08 2013 19:29 Fionn wrote:
Royal is a Poor Man's SK Telecom. You could argue Uzi and Piglet, but they play a similar style, but SKT just does it a lot better with their skirmishing, diving, and fighting across the map. Royal were really sloppy at times, but I think White and especially Uzi have some great skill.

Their Jungler I don't know about. I didn't watch LPL Summer, but I haven't really been impressed by him. Was he good in the regular season?

Lucky is without a doubt their weakness.
Glorious SEA doto
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 10:36:48
September 08 2013 10:35 GMT
#266
On September 08 2013 19:31 Navi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 19:29 Fionn wrote:
Royal is a Poor Man's SK Telecom. You could argue Uzi and Piglet, but they play a similar style, but SKT just does it a lot better with their skirmishing, diving, and fighting across the map. Royal were really sloppy at times, but I think White and especially Uzi have some great skill.

Their Jungler I don't know about. I didn't watch LPL Summer, but I haven't really been impressed by him. Was he good in the regular season?


you cannot compare wh1t3zzzzz to faker
sorry, but it just doesn't work like that

royal is much more bottom heavy, i'd compare them more to CLG in korea (chaulift times)


That's why I said a Poor Man's SKT.

Their team compositions and styles are similar -- not the players (well, you could argue Piglet and Uzi).

In no way do I think White is close to Faker, but that's why I said Poor Man's SKT. If he was Cool, then they could be a Suburban School Teacher's SKT.

Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 08 2013 10:37 GMT
#267
On September 08 2013 19:33 Kavas wrote:
Doubt it. Historically Royal is exactly like SKT T1 in reputation, carried by their mid and ADC, only they are a team built more around Uzi as opposed to T1 which was built around Faker.

Fionn go petition for CJ to sign Uzi for Blaze :D

No, Wh1t3zz has not really been that stellar--you're giving him far too much credit.

Wh1t3zz is sort of weird because while he is extremely proficient at certain mid heroes, his ability to play the "basics" in the current game is very lacking (his Zed is mediocre and his Ori is un-pick-ably bad).

This is what leads to such weird drafts when its Royal vs. other Chinese teams because picking against them is a completely different ball game given that Wh1t3zz on mid is completely unlike any other mid player.
Moderator
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 08 2013 10:38 GMT
#268
On September 08 2013 19:37 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 19:33 Kavas wrote:
Doubt it. Historically Royal is exactly like SKT T1 in reputation, carried by their mid and ADC, only they are a team built more around Uzi as opposed to T1 which was built around Faker.

Fionn go petition for CJ to sign Uzi for Blaze :D

No, Wh1t3zz has not really been that stellar--you're giving him far too much credit.

Wh1t3zz is sort of weird because while he is extremely proficient at certain mid heroes, his ability to play the "basics" in the current game is very lacking (his Zed is mediocre and his Ori is un-pick-ably bad).

This is what leads to such weird drafts when its Royal vs. other Chinese teams because picking against them is a completely different ball game given that Wh1t3zz on mid is completely unlike any other mid player.


So they're like SKT if Faker was replaced by MidKing?
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 08 2013 10:38 GMT
#269
by that logic any team with a decent adc is a poor man's SKT
wh1t3zz is a competitive player, but not a carrying mid by any means

no matter the shit that i seem to be smearing though, royal very much deserve to be one of the two teams advancing atm. players like Uzi are the future for chinese league
Hey! Listen!
FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
September 08 2013 10:41 GMT
#270
--- Nuked ---
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 08 2013 10:43 GMT
#271
On September 08 2013 19:38 Navi wrote:
by that logic any team with a decent adc is a poor man's SKT
wh1t3zz is a competitive player, but not a carrying mid by any means

no matter the shit that i seem to be smearing though, royal very much deserve to be one of the two teams advancing atm. players like Uzi are the future for chinese league


but don't royal play usually a lot of assassins, try to pick up a lot of kills early, and rely on their playmaking abilities to win?

or do they play 4 protect 1 like old Impzone and CLG?

i need to watch more lpl T_T
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
Kavas
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia3421 Posts
September 08 2013 10:45 GMT
#272
On September 08 2013 19:43 Fionn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 19:38 Navi wrote:
by that logic any team with a decent adc is a poor man's SKT
wh1t3zz is a competitive player, but not a carrying mid by any means

no matter the shit that i seem to be smearing though, royal very much deserve to be one of the two teams advancing atm. players like Uzi are the future for chinese league


but don't royal play usually a lot of assassins, try to pick up a lot of kills early, and rely on their playmaking abilities to win?

or do they play 4 protect 1 like old Impzone and CLG?

i need to watch more lpl T_T

AFAIK never 4p1. Honesly the most striking memory of White's games I remember were his Kassadin.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
September 08 2013 10:46 GMT
#273
that's speaking way too generally. "assassins" in general are much more viable in the current patch due to the relatively little you lose from picking a high mobility champion - worst case scenario you have a very solid splitpusher, best case scenario you can instagib someone straight out of the enemy team, with only a few midlaners from the more lower mobility higher teamfight aoe control era still relevant in drafts (ori and karth)
Hey! Listen!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-08 10:47:48
September 08 2013 10:47 GMT
#274
They played 4 protects 1 back when they were losing games to everyone, lol. But this was like, LPL Spring. Overall their draft has evolved since Tabe rejoined the team.

Most of their success in LPL Summer has come from developing this style that is cognizant of their individual and team weaknesses.
Moderator
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 08 2013 10:47 GMT
#275
On September 08 2013 19:47 TheYango wrote:
They played 4 protects 1 back when they were losing games to everyone.

Most of their success in LPL Summer has come from developing this style that is cognizant of their individual and team weaknesses.

Mostly though, based tabe annie support.
Glorious SEA doto
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
September 08 2013 10:48 GMT
#276
must say i'm liking the chinese twitch icon
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
September 08 2013 10:50 GMT
#277
From the regionals, it feels like Uzi and Cool are the superstars of China like Faker, Piglet, Imp, etc. in Korea.

Is there anyone else regarded as well as those two?

I'll probably watch some Royal/OMG LPL Summer games this weekend so I'm well suited for articles and such.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
September 08 2013 10:50 GMT
#278
On September 08 2013 19:31 Fionn wrote:
Cool's last five games look like Faker's.

I really want to see Faker vs. Cool.

it was said recently by wh1t3zZ,(royal's mid white) that he thought Cool was better than Faker.
just hype ~
Incredible Miracle
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
September 08 2013 10:52 GMT
#279
On September 08 2013 19:50 Fionn wrote:
From the regionals, it feels like Uzi and Cool are the superstars of China like Faker, Piglet, Imp, etc. in Korea.

Is there anyone else regarded as well as those two?

I'll probably watch some Royal/OMG LPL Summer games this weekend so I'm well suited for articles and such.

LoveLin is highly regarded, I preferred him when he was support though.
Glorious SEA doto
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
September 08 2013 10:54 GMT
#280
On September 08 2013 19:52 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2013 19:50 Fionn wrote:
From the regionals, it feels like Uzi and Cool are the superstars of China like Faker, Piglet, Imp, etc. in Korea.

Is there anyone else regarded as well as those two?

I'll probably watch some Royal/OMG LPL Summer games this weekend so I'm well suited for articles and such.

LoveLin is highly regarded, I preferred him when he was support though.

When he was on support he was widely considered the best support in China.

After the jungle switch, ehh...
Moderator
Prev 1 12 13 14 15 16 23 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
23:00
PiGosaur Cup #55
CranKy Ducklings147
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech126
Nathanias 78
CosmosSc2 44
trigger 18
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 666
Counter-Strike
fl0m761
taco 553
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox1252
AZ_Axe126
Other Games
summit1g12281
shahzam649
Day[9].tv549
ViBE152
Maynarde146
C9.Mang0102
fpsfer 1
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV25
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 87
• davetesta13
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Migwel
• intothetv
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Kozan
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 33
• Azhi_Dahaki16
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21150
League of Legends
• imaqtpie2744
Other Games
• Scarra817
• Day9tv549
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
7h 51m
OSC
10h 21m
Kung Fu Cup
10h 51m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
21h 51m
The PondCast
1d 8h
RSL Revival
1d 8h
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
1d 10h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 10h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 23h
RSL Revival
2 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IPSL
3 days
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
3 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
4 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.