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On September 01 2013 07:29 DragoonTT wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:27 Numy wrote:On September 01 2013 07:25 Pinith wrote:On September 01 2013 07:24 Nos- wrote:
wow Chauster's nami is kind of fucking good Part of it is that Nami is kind of a counter against Morg. You can tidal wave the rest of the team if she goes for the flash engage and you can drop a bubble on her after zhonya's wears off. Morg is just trash in the current game. Morg is a weaker version of Orianna. Weaker shield (CC protection can be counterplayed), weaker pushing (lane has to stand still vs oneshot), weaker overall laning, weaker ultimate. Her only pro is Dark Binding's CC If you think about it, Orianna makes quite a bunch of mid champs look terrible in comparison. Annie is another one that is completely outclassed except for very specific situations
I think Morg's shield is slightly stronger -- The CC protection + higher AP ratio are countered by being antimagic only, but since it's instant (while ori's doesn't apply until the ball reaches the target) it has much less counterplay than you'd think
Morgana being forced to flash in to land unreliable ult CC is crippling, though.
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On September 01 2013 07:33 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Morgana really isn't that weak. She's not the strongest laner in the game but she can 100-0 people and farm in complete safety plus she has a gamebreaking ult.
If I was on Morgana that game Curse woulda won m i rite
I just can't help imagining if jacky could play zed or anyone with some aggression how different things would be
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On September 01 2013 07:30 onlywonderboy wrote:
My official statement on the matter
*sigh*
Huh. Both your favorite teams ended up 6th place at the end of playoffs.
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It's not a gamebreaking ult if you never teamfight
Voyboy's decision to splitpush always and 1v5 a lot lost them the game, not Jacky's pick.
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Happy we avoided relegation, feeling for all the Crs fans though. As much as I hate saint I really hope they stay up.
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On September 01 2013 07:34 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
The real problem was Voyboy plays such shitty champs
Last pick Tryn against a team with a 2 stuns (Elise/Nami), two knockbacks (Tris/Jayce), two knockups (Ori, Nami). Sounds legit to me!
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On September 01 2013 07:35 schmutttt wrote:
Happy we avoided relegation, feeling for all the Crs fans though. As much as I hate saint I really hope they stay up.
They can pick a really bad amateur team to play against. I think only TBD and CoL are decent so Crs would have to mess up pretty hard to loose relegations.
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On September 01 2013 07:34 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:33 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Morgana really isn't that weak. She's not the strongest laner in the game but she can 100-0 people and farm in complete safety plus she has a gamebreaking ult.
If I was on Morgana that game Curse woulda won m i rite I just can't help imagining if jacky could play zed or anyone with some aggression how different things would be
Like I keep saying, the problem that game wasn't Jacky, it was Voyboy not knowing how to play a top laner that doesn't have to splitpush and a-move for all his damage.
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On September 01 2013 07:34 Nos- wrote:
felt like a lot of coordination problems, jacky goes in, no one with him. Jacky dies, everyone goes in.
I mean, Jacky had great ultis.
It's just that Crs decided that midgame, they weren't going to 5v5 when their teamcomp was significantly better at teamfighting midgame, when gold was even, which played to CLG's mobility/long range/pickoff comp.
On September 01 2013 07:35 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It's not a gamebreaking ult if you never teamfight
Voyboy's decision to splitpush always and 1v5 a lot lost them the game, not Jacky's pick.
More or less.
Refusal of Crs to actually play to their midgame strength lost them the game over Morg.
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On September 01 2013 07:35 schmutttt wrote:
Happy we avoided relegation, feeling for all the Crs fans though. As much as I hate saint I really hope they stay up.
It'll be fine, curse will annihilate the 3rd challenger team.
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On September 01 2013 07:35 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
It's not a gamebreaking ult if you never teamfight
Voyboy's decision to splitpush always and 1v5 a lot lost them the game, not Jacky's pick.
Definitely agree there. Just at least Voy won them one game(Only game he didn't split push lololol).
Jacky just was ineffective on both series so seems worthwhile talking about him
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On September 01 2013 07:30 Slusher wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:26 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:25 Flakes wrote:On September 01 2013 07:17 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:10 zer0das wrote:On September 01 2013 07:07 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:03 zer0das wrote:On September 01 2013 06:55 cLutZ wrote:
Uhhg. WTF is the point of Jax if he can't rip through a shen?
I mean, its not Voy's fault entirely, its Riot's. They just nerfed Shen's shield. You just can't die early against Shen if you're Jax. And build a frakking BotRK for crying out loud. I think most people who play Jax realized its just simply better than Gunblade like 2 months into season 3. On September 01 2013 07:05 AsnSensation wrote:
jax does fine with shen, voy just got owned. He let Nien push a huge wave into tower and then shen + elise dive +fb on Shen just snowballed the lane.
He had a 5min warden's mail vs Jax lol. Both true, but the fact is, Jax should clown a shen by lategame no matter how retarded the player is... if the game was balanced. That's not balance, that's stupid. You get as big of an advantage as Nien did against Voy, the Shen probably deserves to win. Except he had a tiny lead by the end of the game, and the duel was basically even. I mean after the first blood, it was fine that nein could bully, but when jax had a Gunblade + TF + Randuins hes still was losing. On a character without a global, with such worse farming abilities, and basically the same amount of CC. Like, whats the point? I miss OPJax too, but Shen was ahead all game, he had four complete items to voy's 3 (BoRK sunfire spirit visage randuins). And Voy towerdiving Shen and basically 100-0ing him before dying, even with a gold disadvantage, shows Jax still has natural dueling strength even if its not godmode The point is, if its not godmode there is no jax :-/ still exists when you don't buy garbage items.
In Shy we trust. Is frost going to worlds?
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On September 01 2013 07:34 Nos- wrote:
felt like a lot of coordination problems, jacky goes in, no one with him. Jacky dies, everyone goes in.
Mostly due to Chauster, super hard to follow a flash morg ult if nami just ults everyone behind her.
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On September 01 2013 07:37 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:30 Slusher wrote:On September 01 2013 07:26 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:25 Flakes wrote:On September 01 2013 07:17 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:10 zer0das wrote:On September 01 2013 07:07 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:03 zer0das wrote:On September 01 2013 06:55 cLutZ wrote:
Uhhg. WTF is the point of Jax if he can't rip through a shen?
I mean, its not Voy's fault entirely, its Riot's. They just nerfed Shen's shield. You just can't die early against Shen if you're Jax. And build a frakking BotRK for crying out loud. I think most people who play Jax realized its just simply better than Gunblade like 2 months into season 3. On September 01 2013 07:05 AsnSensation wrote:
jax does fine with shen, voy just got owned. He let Nien push a huge wave into tower and then shen + elise dive +fb on Shen just snowballed the lane.
He had a 5min warden's mail vs Jax lol. Both true, but the fact is, Jax should clown a shen by lategame no matter how retarded the player is... if the game was balanced. That's not balance, that's stupid. You get as big of an advantage as Nien did against Voy, the Shen probably deserves to win. Except he had a tiny lead by the end of the game, and the duel was basically even. I mean after the first blood, it was fine that nein could bully, but when jax had a Gunblade + TF + Randuins hes still was losing. On a character without a global, with such worse farming abilities, and basically the same amount of CC. Like, whats the point? I miss OPJax too, but Shen was ahead all game, he had four complete items to voy's 3 (BoRK sunfire spirit visage randuins). And Voy towerdiving Shen and basically 100-0ing him before dying, even with a gold disadvantage, shows Jax still has natural dueling strength even if its not godmode The point is, if its not godmode there is no jax :-/ still exists when you don't buy garbage items. In Shy we trust. Is frost going to worlds?
In playoffs with KTB, Blaze and SKT.
Odds are not in their favor.
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On September 01 2013 07:37 beefhamburger wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:34 Nos- wrote:
felt like a lot of coordination problems, jacky goes in, no one with him. Jacky dies, everyone goes in. Mostly due to Chauster, super hard to follow a flash morg ult if nami just ults everyone behind her.
Multiple engages by Jacky with great ultis midgame...yet no one in Crs was nearby to fight an actual teamfight.
I mean, maybe they though they were behind in gold and needed to catch up (when in reality they were even), but...srsly. Did Cs even fight a 5v5? That inhib fight doesn't really even count.
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On September 01 2013 07:37 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:30 Slusher wrote:On September 01 2013 07:26 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:25 Flakes wrote:On September 01 2013 07:17 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:10 zer0das wrote:On September 01 2013 07:07 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:03 zer0das wrote:On September 01 2013 06:55 cLutZ wrote:
Uhhg. WTF is the point of Jax if he can't rip through a shen?
I mean, its not Voy's fault entirely, its Riot's. They just nerfed Shen's shield. You just can't die early against Shen if you're Jax. And build a frakking BotRK for crying out loud. I think most people who play Jax realized its just simply better than Gunblade like 2 months into season 3. On September 01 2013 07:05 AsnSensation wrote:
jax does fine with shen, voy just got owned. He let Nien push a huge wave into tower and then shen + elise dive +fb on Shen just snowballed the lane.
He had a 5min warden's mail vs Jax lol. Both true, but the fact is, Jax should clown a shen by lategame no matter how retarded the player is... if the game was balanced. That's not balance, that's stupid. You get as big of an advantage as Nien did against Voy, the Shen probably deserves to win. Except he had a tiny lead by the end of the game, and the duel was basically even. I mean after the first blood, it was fine that nein could bully, but when jax had a Gunblade + TF + Randuins hes still was losing. On a character without a global, with such worse farming abilities, and basically the same amount of CC. Like, whats the point? I miss OPJax too, but Shen was ahead all game, he had four complete items to voy's 3 (BoRK sunfire spirit visage randuins). And Voy towerdiving Shen and basically 100-0ing him before dying, even with a gold disadvantage, shows Jax still has natural dueling strength even if its not godmode The point is, if its not godmode there is no jax :-/ still exists when you don't buy garbage items. In Shy we trust. Is frost going to worlds?
possibly, but not likely. (not sure if this is a real question or not) they are tied for the worst possible seed for the 3rd and final spot playoffs
http://lol.gamepedia.com/Season_3_Korea_Regional_Finals
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On September 01 2013 07:38 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:37 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:30 Slusher wrote:On September 01 2013 07:26 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:25 Flakes wrote:On September 01 2013 07:17 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:10 zer0das wrote:On September 01 2013 07:07 cLutZ wrote:On September 01 2013 07:03 zer0das wrote:On September 01 2013 06:55 cLutZ wrote:
Uhhg. WTF is the point of Jax if he can't rip through a shen?
I mean, its not Voy's fault entirely, its Riot's. They just nerfed Shen's shield. You just can't die early against Shen if you're Jax. And build a frakking BotRK for crying out loud. I think most people who play Jax realized its just simply better than Gunblade like 2 months into season 3. On September 01 2013 07:05 AsnSensation wrote:
jax does fine with shen, voy just got owned. He let Nien push a huge wave into tower and then shen + elise dive +fb on Shen just snowballed the lane.
He had a 5min warden's mail vs Jax lol. Both true, but the fact is, Jax should clown a shen by lategame no matter how retarded the player is... if the game was balanced. That's not balance, that's stupid. You get as big of an advantage as Nien did against Voy, the Shen probably deserves to win. Except he had a tiny lead by the end of the game, and the duel was basically even. I mean after the first blood, it was fine that nein could bully, but when jax had a Gunblade + TF + Randuins hes still was losing. On a character without a global, with such worse farming abilities, and basically the same amount of CC. Like, whats the point? I miss OPJax too, but Shen was ahead all game, he had four complete items to voy's 3 (BoRK sunfire spirit visage randuins). And Voy towerdiving Shen and basically 100-0ing him before dying, even with a gold disadvantage, shows Jax still has natural dueling strength even if its not godmode The point is, if its not godmode there is no jax :-/ still exists when you don't buy garbage items. In Shy we trust. Is frost going to worlds? In playoffs with KTB, Blaze and SKT. Odds are not in their favor.
Boo. Frost is the most fun team.
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