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On September 01 2013 07:44 Flakes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:42 nafta wrote:On September 01 2013 07:41 Flakes wrote:On September 01 2013 07:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:On September 01 2013 07:37 beefhamburger wrote:On September 01 2013 07:34 Nos- wrote:
felt like a lot of coordination problems, jacky goes in, no one with him. Jacky dies, everyone goes in. Mostly due to Chauster, super hard to follow a flash morg ult if nami just ults everyone behind her. Multiple engages by Jacky with great ultis midgame...yet no one in Crs was nearby to fight an actual teamfight. I mean, maybe they though they were behind in gold and needed to catch up (when in reality they were even), but...srsly. Did Cs even fight a 5v5? That inhib fight doesn't really even count. When your twitch is down 60 cs vs DL's tristana, i'm sure it feels like you're behind :D Tristana beats twitch in lane.Even though it was mostly cop being ineffective in lane. not really commenting on the champ matchup (which is really dependent on supports imo), mostly emphasizing the players -- if cop was up 60 cs on tristana vs doublelift's twitch, i'd still give clg a chance in teamfights
Ofc. Tristana's midgame teamfighting is pretty balls unless you're super ahead (compared to most other ADCs, especially Twitch).
If Cop was 60 CS up on Twitch, I suppose Crs would've felt like they were strong enough to teamfight. Still, they should've just gone for it. Better midgame teamfights=teamfight instead of letting CLG scale past it.
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Quick history lesson
TSM beat Vulcun in this exact match in the Spring Split Playoffs 2-1.
Let's see if TSM's mastery in boX series continue against Vulcun
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It doesn't matter how strong Curse's comp is at teamfighting in the midgame if:
1. Voyboy is busy splitpushing (it seemed more like "catching up in cs" than splitpushing for most of the game though).
2. Jacky decides to 1v3 or 2v4 at random points when it's not like his team is a screen away, but on the other side of the map. @_@
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On September 01 2013 07:40 bokchoi wrote:EU and NA need to stop shitting on each other. You're both getting shitted on by China and Korea 
NA and EU rival is so much fun though  The trash talk should be there.
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Never give up hope! TSM TSM TSM!
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It's not so much about the lane match up as it is about the junglers. When you have a shit tier ganker like nasus enemy will auto win the lane just by hard pushing. If you do that against elise she will kill you. That's really how CLG won all of their lanes. Also trynd pick into jayce was just a awful choice, I would consider it a rather hard counter.
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On September 01 2013 07:43 bokchoi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:42 nafta wrote:On September 01 2013 07:41 Flakes wrote:On September 01 2013 07:38 Lord Tolkien wrote:On September 01 2013 07:37 beefhamburger wrote:On September 01 2013 07:34 Nos- wrote:
felt like a lot of coordination problems, jacky goes in, no one with him. Jacky dies, everyone goes in. Mostly due to Chauster, super hard to follow a flash morg ult if nami just ults everyone behind her. Multiple engages by Jacky with great ultis midgame...yet no one in Crs was nearby to fight an actual teamfight. I mean, maybe they though they were behind in gold and needed to catch up (when in reality they were even), but...srsly. Did Cs even fight a 5v5? That inhib fight doesn't really even count. When your twitch is down 60 cs vs DL's tristana, i'm sure it feels like you're behind :D Tristana beats twitch in lane.Even though it was mostly cop being ineffective in lane. No. Esp not vs Twitch+Sona.
Both of these are huge exaggerations. Twitch vs. trist is easily a skill-matchup that goes either way depending on the players. Nami also deals with Sona very well because she has the same strengths (good heal + good harass) and chauster was very on spot with his bubbles on top of that. There's very little inherant champ advantage that matters in that matchup.
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On September 01 2013 07:47 Alaric wrote:
It doesn't matter how strong Curse's comp is at teamfighting in the midgame if:
1. Voyboy is busy splitpushing (it seemed more like "catching up in cs" than splitpushing for most of the game though).
2. Jacky decides to 1v3 or 2v4 at random points when it's not like his team is a screen away, but on the other side of the map. @_@
Yep.
The splitpushing. All the splitpushing.
They should've gone manmode.
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On September 01 2013 07:47 Amethyst21 wrote:
Quick history lesson
TSM beat Vulcun in this exact match in the Spring Split Playoffs 2-1.
Let's see if TSM's mastery in boX series continue against Vulcun
Difference was Vulcun were just starting to click then were as TSM just at the end of their power run.
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Obligatory mention of how CLG willingly took aphromoo over bloodwater.
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On September 01 2013 07:49 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On September 01 2013 07:47 Amethyst21 wrote:
Quick history lesson
TSM beat Vulcun in this exact match in the Spring Split Playoffs 2-1.
Let's see if TSM's mastery in boX series continue against Vulcun Difference was Vulcun were just starting to click then were as TSM just at the end of their power run.
Yup, its a classic story though - the experienced veteran against the unproven up-and-coming team.
(Mancloud pls)
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Show us your magic Mancloud!
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Finally the interesting games start.
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CLG better than Vulcun? That's the funniest joke I've ever heard.
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Woke up from nap. Time to refund my curse icon. Also need to be on suicide watch for OWB.
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On September 01 2013 07:53 wei2coolman wrote:
Woke up from nap. Time to refund my curse icon. Also need to be on suicide watch for OWB.
He made a comment so he's safe. For now
How optimistic of phreak to imply that there are multiple vulcun fans
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Germany24009 Posts
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Surprised TSM isn't grabbing Zac
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EPT
