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[OGN] Hotsix The Champions Summer 2013 - Page 105

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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
July 20 2013 13:05 GMT
#2081
On July 20 2013 21:59 XaCez wrote:
Sword must win 2-0 to have a chance to qualify. 1-1 they finish third, 0-2 fourth. For points, see this.
http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Season_Three/Circuit_Points_Korea


Sword is already guaranteed a chance to qualify, aren't they?

There aren't enough points in the tournaments(OGN/NLB) to knock them out of Top 6.
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Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 20 2013 13:07 GMT
#2082
On July 20 2013 22:05 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 21:59 XaCez wrote:
Sword must win 2-0 to have a chance to qualify. 1-1 they finish third, 0-2 fourth. For points, see this.
http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Season_Three/Circuit_Points_Korea


Sword is already guaranteed a chance to qualify, aren't they?

There aren't enough points in the tournaments(OGN/NLB) to knock them out of Top 6.


I think he was talking about Hot Six The Champions, not Najin Black Sword's chance to qualify for the Season 3 World Championship.
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Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 14:47:25
July 20 2013 13:08 GMT
#2083
On July 20 2013 22:07 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:05 Inflicted_ wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:59 XaCez wrote:
Sword must win 2-0 to have a chance to qualify. 1-1 they finish third, 0-2 fourth. For points, see this.
http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Season_Three/Circuit_Points_Korea


Sword is already guaranteed a chance to qualify, aren't they?

There aren't enough points in the tournaments(OGN/NLB) to knock them out of Top 6.


I think he was talking about Hot Six The Champions, not Najin Black Sword's chance to qualify for the Season 3 World Championship.


edit: Oh, nevermind. Didn't read properly
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XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 13:10:15
July 20 2013 13:09 GMT
#2084
On July 20 2013 22:07 Letmelose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:05 Inflicted_ wrote:
On July 20 2013 21:59 XaCez wrote:
Sword must win 2-0 to have a chance to qualify. 1-1 they finish third, 0-2 fourth. For points, see this.
http://leaguepedia.com/wiki/Season_Three/Circuit_Points_Korea


Sword is already guaranteed a chance to qualify, aren't they?

There aren't enough points in the tournaments(OGN/NLB) to knock them out of Top 6.


I think he was talking about Hot Six The Champions, not Najin Black Sword's chance to qualify for the Season 3 World Championship.

Correct.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
UmberBane
Profile Joined March 2013
Germany5450 Posts
July 20 2013 13:10 GMT
#2085
Sweet jesus... Welp, I guess if they play like this they really shouldn't be representing Korea on the world stage.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 20 2013 13:12 GMT
#2086
Interesting how the winner of NLB gets as many points as the 4th place for OGN.
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
July 20 2013 13:16 GMT
#2087
i'm crying here just like that girl too
Pure fan
CarlMikael
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden1043 Posts
July 20 2013 13:17 GMT
#2088
no watch no
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
July 20 2013 13:18 GMT
#2089
All the drama lol. Dunno I thought it was funny how over the top it was.
Off-season = best season
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
July 20 2013 13:19 GMT
#2090
Hm what's this song currently playing?
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
skykh
Profile Joined September 2012
3006 Posts
July 20 2013 13:19 GMT
#2091
I rather have blaze/frost/bullets/skt1 or mvp ozone as first/second place and qualify for worlds. The current sword is not good as those 5.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 20 2013 13:21 GMT
#2092
On July 20 2013 22:12 Gahlo wrote:
Interesting how the winner of NLB gets as many points as the 4th place for OGN.


It's a flawed system, a more mathematically fair system would go something like this:

1st place: 400 points
2nd place: 200 points
3rd place: 130 points
4th place: 100 points
5th place (NLB 1st place): 80 points
6th place (NLB 2nd place): 70 points
7th place (NLB 3rd place): 60 points
8th place (NLB 4th place): 50 points

Najin Black Sword is out of the tournament, yet they are still in a good position to reach the Season 3 World Championship. They are guaranteed a spot in the wildcard tournament no matter what, and can qualify directly unless the following situations occur.

NLB 1st place
-> MVP Ozone gets 2nd place, and one of CJ Entus Blaze/CJ Entus Frost/KT Rolster Bullets gets 1st place.

NLB 2nd place
-> MVP Ozone gets 2nd/3rd place, and one of CJ Entus Blaze/CJ Entus Frost/KT Rolster Bullets gets 1st place.

NLB 3rd place
-> MVP Ozone gets 2nd/3rd place, and one of CJ Entus Blaze/CJ Entus Frost/KT Rolster Bullets/SK Telecom T1 gets 1st place.
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baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
July 20 2013 13:25 GMT
#2093
That hurt to watch. It's mind-boggling that Sword could go from being a world-class team in Winter to this inconsistent rabble that failed to qualify. I think some tough decisioons will need to be made after this season because that performance was unacceptable. I wanted to see Sword go to Worlds but in all honesty they don't deserve to right now, and it might be embarrassing if they did.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
July 20 2013 13:25 GMT
#2094
Najin Sword ...

Can anyone explain to me how Twitch lag like crazy on my laptop but play flawlessly on my phone, they both using the same wifi. Watching 10 mins of LOL on a phone is cool but a series or a long match on a phone screen make me cry.
Terran
PaleMan
Profile Joined October 2002
Russian Federation1953 Posts
July 20 2013 13:26 GMT
#2095
On July 20 2013 22:25 baekgom84 wrote:
That hurt to watch. It's mind-boggling that Sword could go from being a world-class team in Winter to this inconsistent rabble that failed to qualify. I think some tough decisioons will need to be made after this season because that performance was unacceptable. I wanted to see Sword go to Worlds but in all honesty they don't deserve to right now, and it might be embarrassing if they did.


its basically another team
no Hoon, no Maknoon
Pure fan
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
July 20 2013 13:27 GMT
#2096
On July 20 2013 22:25 baekgom84 wrote:
That hurt to watch. It's mind-boggling that Sword could go from being a world-class team in Winter to this inconsistent rabble that failed to qualify. I think some tough decisioons will need to be made after this season because that performance was unacceptable. I wanted to see Sword go to Worlds but in all honesty they don't deserve to right now, and it might be embarrassing if they did.

Which is disappointing because I want to see the lower class Korean teams in international play.
asLeep
Profile Joined November 2010
United States293 Posts
July 20 2013 13:30 GMT
#2097
Picks bans for Game 2 Jin Air Stealths vs Najin Sword
Najin Sword vs Jin Air Stealths
Bans
Rengar Twitch
Lee Sin Vladimir
Twisted Fate Jayce
Picks
Elise Shen/Thresh
Caitlyn/Nami Nunu/Varus
Zed/Evelynn Ezreal
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-20 13:32:09
July 20 2013 13:30 GMT
#2098
On July 20 2013 22:27 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:25 baekgom84 wrote:
That hurt to watch. It's mind-boggling that Sword could go from being a world-class team in Winter to this inconsistent rabble that failed to qualify. I think some tough decisioons will need to be made after this season because that performance was unacceptable. I wanted to see Sword go to Worlds but in all honesty they don't deserve to right now, and it might be embarrassing if they did.

Which is disappointing because I want to see the lower class Korean teams in international play.


Depending on your definition of lower class, you could argue that LG-IM #1, and SK Telecom T1 #1 already had international exposure despite finishing 4th~8th in the NLB Spring Season (8th~16th overall) shortly after their performances in the IEM Season VII World Championship.
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baekgom84
Profile Joined May 2013
Korea (South)375 Posts
July 20 2013 13:35 GMT
#2099
On July 20 2013 22:26 PaleMan wrote:
its basically another team
no Hoon, no Maknoon


I think Hoon only played for Shield. In any case, Maknoon leaving was obviously big but they had been playing poorly throughout most of Spring anyway. When they are on point they can take on the best in the world, but those games are few and far between now. It beats me what their issues are, but I think it's more than just Maknoon leaving.
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
July 20 2013 13:36 GMT
#2100
On July 20 2013 22:35 baekgom84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 20 2013 22:26 PaleMan wrote:
its basically another team
no Hoon, no Maknoon


I think Hoon only played for Shield. In any case, Maknoon leaving was obviously big but they had been playing poorly throughout most of Spring anyway. When they are on point they can take on the best in the world, but those games are few and far between now. It beats me what their issues are, but I think it's more than just Maknoon leaving.


SSONG.
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