EPTOn June 14 2013 04:39 Sandster wrote:
^ add Elise to the list as well
^ add Elise to the list as well
Oops yea forgot about his Elise. Elise should be against C9 anyway in my opinion.
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agentx3
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Oops yea forgot about his Elise. Elise should be against C9 anyway in my opinion. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On June 14 2013 04:35 agentx3 wrote: Rumble and Zed have both been nerfed, so playing against either wouldn't be as scary as Elise/Kennen/Jayce. I know Hai plays TF but, his TF has been so-so thus far and TF was recently nerfed as well. He seems to be much more comfortable on Zed and Khazhix, both which have very obvious and counterable weaknesses. Zed sure, but I'm not sold on Rumble. Equalizer is just flat out retarded in team fights, esp in the Jungle or contesting Dragon/Baron. So he is less of a godly lane bully, oh well. He can 1v2 just fine and is resourceless in lane. So many pros still to outweigh the Harpoon and Flamespitter nerfs. If we had to pick apart C9, I'd definitely say Hai has the biggest issue when it comes to champion pool. He teeters towards AD Mids more than any other Mid Lane I know. I've seen his TF, it's ok at best. He should pick up a few more counterless AP champs. Karthus would be an obv choice. Oh, and for shits and giggles, plz pick up Wukong Mid Hai. tyvm | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
zz Of course, I really want him to keep growing as a player too. Add Eve asaply. Can build a beastly AoE/shield comp with Eve as core initiator. | ||
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agentx3
United States64 Posts
On June 14 2013 04:40 NeoIllusions wrote: Zed sure, but I'm not sold on Rumble. Equalizer is just flat out retarded in team fights, esp in the Jungle or contesting Dragon/Baron. So he is less of a godly lane bully, oh well. He can 1v2 just fine and is resourceless in lane. So many pros still to outweigh the Harpoon and Flamespitter nerfs. If we had to pick apart C9, I'd definitely say Hai has the biggest issue when it comes to champion pool. He teeters towards AD Mids more than any other Mid Lane I know. I've seen his TF, it's ok at best. He should pick up a few more counterless AP champs. Karthus would be an obv choice. Oh, and for shits and giggles, plz pick up Wukong Mid Hai. tyvm I am fairly sold on Rumble not being a top tier pick anymore. His ult relies on more crowd control now to deal full damage (it requires them to stand for 4 seconds in the Ult to match old damage) and his Q/E base damage and scaling were both nerfed. His level 1-3 is pretty much terrible at the moment, and last hitting with E is much more difficult. His flamespitter damage requires you to be in Danger Zone to be effective and his E was unchanged from the 25% increase, where Q was compensated with 50% increase. Do I think he is still viable? Sure, on specific AoE/Siege team comps he still may have a use. Is he anywhere near as strong as Elise/Jayce/Kennen? I do not believe he is anymore and this will be representative in how much he is picked in Korea. Some math on the nerfs (credit to Aypolo): Flame Spitter: Damage decreased to 75/135/195/255/315 (+1.0 Ability Power) from 90/160/230/300/370 (+1.35 Ability Power) Danger Zone damage bonus increased to 50% from 25% Before with overheat: 112.5/200/288/375/463 +1.69ap Now with overheat: 112.5/203/292/382/473 + 1.5ap Dangerzone bonus: 50% Before with overheat: 69/106/144/181/219 (+0.63 Ability Power) Now with overheat: 56/88/120/150/181 (+0.5 Ability Power) Overheat bonus: 25% On the note of Hai's champion pool. He does play Lux and Anivia. I do not consider either to be very strong picks at the moment unless you are extremely mechanically skilled with them. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
 . I expect that someone will pick him eventually and dominate and people will just follow suit. | ||
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Mensol
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On June 14 2013 05:01 wei2coolman wrote: I'm interested in seeing the zionsparten vs voyboy match up. I feel voyboy has been slumping since like week 9 of last LCS. Zion won't be playing today I think. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Zion's at his high school graduation, so Jintae will be subbing. | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
Dig vs TSM I'm expecting a onsided TSM win. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 14 2013 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote: Nami is going to be big. Hardest Support to play right now but she's on par with Thresh. As good as Thresh! ggggg Zion's at his high school graduation, so Jintae will be subbing. Ugh, lame... Oh well, grats to zion i suppose; forgot tcg made of kids. | ||
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StarStruck
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Cuddle
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agentx3
United States64 Posts
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Slow Motion
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 14 2013 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote: Nami is going to be big. Hardest Support to play right now but she's on par with Thresh. As good as Thresh! ggggg Zion's at his high school graduation, so Jintae will be subbing. imo Nami has less room for error; The missed nami bubble yesterday by daydreamin let TSM snowball by getting the 3rd dragon. | ||
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agentx3
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Kuja900
United States3564 Posts
On June 14 2013 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote: Nami is going to be big. Hardest Support to play right now but she's on par with Thresh. As good as Thresh! ggggg Zion's at his high school graduation, so Jintae will be subbing. Oooh I dunno if I'd go that far thresh is just so so good at every point in the game him and jayce are the two most obviously broken champs in the game currently imo. | ||
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