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If you have any questions you want to ask C9 Meteos, PM Neo in the next 24 hours. Interview will be conducted this weekend.
agentx3
Profile Joined September 2011
United States64 Posts
June 13 2013 19:40 GMT
#1021
On June 14 2013 04:39 Sandster wrote:
^ add Elise to the list as well


Oops yea forgot about his Elise. Elise should be against C9 anyway in my opinion.
Former Orb/C9/Lemondogs. Follow me at https://twitter.com/AGeNtl0l
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 13 2013 19:40 GMT
#1022
On June 14 2013 04:35 agentx3 wrote:
Rumble and Zed have both been nerfed, so playing against either wouldn't be as scary as Elise/Kennen/Jayce. I know Hai plays TF but, his TF has been so-so thus far and TF was recently nerfed as well. He seems to be much more comfortable on Zed and Khazhix, both which have very obvious and counterable weaknesses.

Zed sure, but I'm not sold on Rumble. Equalizer is just flat out retarded in team fights, esp in the Jungle or contesting Dragon/Baron. So he is less of a godly lane bully, oh well. He can 1v2 just fine and is resourceless in lane. So many pros still to outweigh the Harpoon and Flamespitter nerfs.

If we had to pick apart C9, I'd definitely say Hai has the biggest issue when it comes to champion pool. He teeters towards AD Mids more than any other Mid Lane I know. I've seen his TF, it's ok at best. He should pick up a few more counterless AP champs. Karthus would be an obv choice.

Oh, and for shits and giggles, plz pick up Wukong Mid Hai. tyvm
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 13 2013 19:40 GMT
#1023
I am 100% sure he is a good sejuani.That champ is so broken and he is so good I can't imagine him playing her bad lol.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 13 2013 19:42 GMT
#1024
l0l, Meteos has no issues. Normal star represent~
zz

Of course, I really want him to keep growing as a player too. Add Eve asaply. Can build a beastly AoE/shield comp with Eve as core initiator.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
agentx3
Profile Joined September 2011
United States64 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-13 19:56:27
June 13 2013 19:52 GMT
#1025
On June 14 2013 04:40 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2013 04:35 agentx3 wrote:
Rumble and Zed have both been nerfed, so playing against either wouldn't be as scary as Elise/Kennen/Jayce. I know Hai plays TF but, his TF has been so-so thus far and TF was recently nerfed as well. He seems to be much more comfortable on Zed and Khazhix, both which have very obvious and counterable weaknesses.

Zed sure, but I'm not sold on Rumble. Equalizer is just flat out retarded in team fights, esp in the Jungle or contesting Dragon/Baron. So he is less of a godly lane bully, oh well. He can 1v2 just fine and is resourceless in lane. So many pros still to outweigh the Harpoon and Flamespitter nerfs.

If we had to pick apart C9, I'd definitely say Hai has the biggest issue when it comes to champion pool. He teeters towards AD Mids more than any other Mid Lane I know. I've seen his TF, it's ok at best. He should pick up a few more counterless AP champs. Karthus would be an obv choice.

Oh, and for shits and giggles, plz pick up Wukong Mid Hai. tyvm


I am fairly sold on Rumble not being a top tier pick anymore. His ult relies on more crowd control now to deal full damage (it requires them to stand for 4 seconds in the Ult to match old damage) and his Q/E base damage and scaling were both nerfed. His level 1-3 is pretty much terrible at the moment, and last hitting with E is much more difficult. His flamespitter damage requires you to be in Danger Zone to be effective and his E was unchanged from the 25% increase, where Q was compensated with 50% increase.

Do I think he is still viable? Sure, on specific AoE/Siege team comps he still may have a use. Is he anywhere near as strong as Elise/Jayce/Kennen? I do not believe he is anymore and this will be representative in how much he is picked in Korea.

Some math on the nerfs (credit to Aypolo):

Flame Spitter: Damage decreased to 75/135/195/255/315 (+1.0 Ability Power) from 90/160/230/300/370 (+1.35 Ability Power) Danger Zone damage bonus increased to 50% from 25%

Before with overheat: 112.5/200/288/375/463 +1.69ap
Now with overheat: 112.5/203/292/382/473 + 1.5ap
Dangerzone bonus: 50%


Before with overheat: 69/106/144/181/219 (+0.63 Ability Power)
Now with overheat: 56/88/120/150/181 (+0.5 Ability Power)
Overheat bonus: 25%

On the note of Hai's champion pool. He does play Lux and Anivia. I do not consider either to be very strong picks at the moment unless you are extremely mechanically skilled with them.

Former Orb/C9/Lemondogs. Follow me at https://twitter.com/AGeNtl0l
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 13 2013 19:58 GMT
#1026
I think Rumble still a very strong pick. LOL pros stop picking him after the nert because thats what they do after a certain champ is nerfed .
I expect that someone will pick him eventually and dominate and people will just follow suit.
Terran
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 13 2013 20:00 GMT
#1027
Blue side Rumble ia still strong as pre-nerf rumble.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 13 2013 20:01 GMT
#1028
I'm interested in seeing the zionsparten vs voyboy match up. I feel voyboy has been slumping since like week 9 of last LCS.
liftlift > tsm
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
June 13 2013 20:03 GMT
#1029
nami is so good now i think were going to be seeing a lot more of her, that 1.5 bubble is satanic
OMG you nasty gurl
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 13 2013 20:03 GMT
#1030
On June 14 2013 05:01 wei2coolman wrote:
I'm interested in seeing the zionsparten vs voyboy match up. I feel voyboy has been slumping since like week 9 of last LCS.

Zion won't be playing today I think.
Terran
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 13 2013 20:05 GMT
#1031
Nami is going to be big. Hardest Support to play right now but she's on par with Thresh. As good as Thresh! ggggg

Zion's at his high school graduation, so Jintae will be subbing.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
June 13 2013 20:06 GMT
#1032
since Uni tomorrow I'll stay up for the first 3 matches, especially dig vs clg, will be interesting to see who can throw harder

Dig vs TSM I'm expecting a onsided TSM win.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 13 2013 20:07 GMT
#1033
On June 14 2013 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
Nami is going to be big. Hardest Support to play right now but she's on par with Thresh. As good as Thresh! ggggg

Zion's at his high school graduation, so Jintae will be subbing.

Ugh, lame... Oh well, grats to zion i suppose; forgot tcg made of kids.
liftlift > tsm
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 13 2013 20:07 GMT
#1034
I love playing Nami. < Support for life bitches and when it comes to the highest level you really have to be able to hit all those skill shots.
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
June 13 2013 20:08 GMT
#1035
Hmm, Twitch lagged both yesterday and today for me. I've moved so it might be that...but it's troubling.
agentx3
Profile Joined September 2011
United States64 Posts
June 13 2013 20:08 GMT
#1036
Nami laning phase lives and dies with the ability to land Q's.
Former Orb/C9/Lemondogs. Follow me at https://twitter.com/AGeNtl0l
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
June 13 2013 20:09 GMT
#1037
If Crs loses to Velocity I will be so sad haha.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 13 2013 20:10 GMT
#1038
On June 14 2013 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
Nami is going to be big. Hardest Support to play right now but she's on par with Thresh. As good as Thresh! ggggg

Zion's at his high school graduation, so Jintae will be subbing.

imo Nami has less room for error; The missed nami bubble yesterday by daydreamin let TSM snowball by getting the 3rd dragon.
liftlift > tsm
agentx3
Profile Joined September 2011
United States64 Posts
June 13 2013 20:10 GMT
#1039
If Crs loses to Velocity I am going to go buy Edward some vodka.
Former Orb/C9/Lemondogs. Follow me at https://twitter.com/AGeNtl0l
Kuja900
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3564 Posts
June 13 2013 20:10 GMT
#1040
On June 14 2013 05:05 NeoIllusions wrote:
Nami is going to be big. Hardest Support to play right now but she's on par with Thresh. As good as Thresh! ggggg

Zion's at his high school graduation, so Jintae will be subbing.



Oooh I dunno if I'd go that far thresh is just so so good at every point in the game him and jayce are the two most obviously broken champs in the game currently imo.
OMG you nasty gurl
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